jonathan richman: is this guy a class fucking act or what?

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Duh. I meant to say "Back In Your Life". You said you'd ordered '88.

― everything, Friday, March 12, 2010 11:09 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Yeah 88 should be with me early next week. I wasn't sure about Back In Your Life I'd seen some not so great things written about it but I'll get that one ordered too.

I think Jonathan Sings is the one to beat. I just played it again and I'm just loving it so much. It has a really great sound to it, it really suits him having the female backing vocals. In the sleeve notes it say's he isn't a massive fan of the album himself, he likes the band but hates his vocals and the production.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Xpost. ILM pays me $9.99/year to point out whenever necessary that Rockin and Romance is available here:

http://www.twintone.com/projects/8558.html

It is a regular CD in every respect other than the cover art.

― dlp9001, Saturday, March 13, 2010 12:55 AM (17 hours ago) Bookmark

Thanks for the tip (also in the other thread) I'm one of those people that still wants to own the actual album before downloading or getting it any other way. I think i would rather fork out for the vinyl than paying for a CD copy even if it is close to owning the real thing.

It's really annoying, I think I just pick bands to get into that have rare back catalogues to make it hard for myself (see also The Cardiacs)

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link

Twin Tone also has the excellent Yung Wu record -- I think it's the only place you can get it (other than used record stores ...) Kind of fun to see how much those records sold.

tylerw, Saturday, 13 March 2010 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Xpost. ha-ha. Fortunately I'm blessed with a huge collection of Jonathan and Cardiacs spread across ridiculous amounts of formats. I have actually found the 80s era Modern Lovers albums to be quite easy to find in second hand, but that probably depends on where you live. Back in You Life starts off with a pretty weak song (Abdul and Cleopatra) but then the rest of it is solid. I always consider it to be a companion piece to Modern Lovers Live - it has the same killer line-up - Asa, Leroy and D.Sharpe and the tone of the songs is similar - some uptempo dance numbers with great backing harmonies (and some of that conversational stuff where Jonathan asks the Modern Lovers what they think), a couple of faux-naive numbers, a great rock'n'roll cover of "Lover Please" and a sprinkling of his more sincere/confessional material.

Regarding the female backing vocals - Jonathan likes to use his backing vocalists as foils and when he's singing with women that can often work really well. I think that Jonathan Sings and Rockin and Romance are the only ones where there is female backing vocalists all over the place but there's a sprinkling throughout the catalogue. The Neighbours has some great dynamic. Her sarcastic response to Jonathan's explanations is just classic. Also, "Just Because I'm Irish" from You Must Ask The Heart which has Julia Sweeney is pretty great.

everything, Saturday, 13 March 2010 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm incredibly jealous of you right now. I live in the UK where the second hand record shops are really struggling. I've asked in quite a a few shops recently about about both The Cardiacs and Jonathan Richman, Most reactions have been no chance mate!

I can't believe up until a few years ago you could get Cardiacs records in shops and on their website and now they go for over 60 pounds. I just got a copy of The seaside through the post today, which is great.

Anyway back to Jonathan Richman. I'm bidding on Back In Your LIfe on Ebay now. I'm not quite rich enough to bid on the one copy of Rockin and Romance that's 85 pounds.

The Neighbors is probably my favourite song of his at the moment. I love how both the versions of That Summer Feeling are really different but both equally amazing.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Holy Shit. Eighty five quid? That's ridiculous. Especially with the Twin/Tone version available for a tenner. Both these artists need comprehensive box-set makeovers right now. BIYL is one I have not seen around much. I don't have it on vinyl - I have had the cassette for about 20 years and thankfully found a CD of it more recently. I think I mentioned upthread that there's a great version of The Neighbours on Jonathan Goes Country which is killer, but there's a third rendition on his Spanish album (like I said, not essential).

everything, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah it's one of those buy it now jobs so no-one is going to ever bid on it. They are pretty much wasting their time and...well mine!

So yeah if anyone has any spare copies they would like to sell of that or It's Time for the Modern lovers or can just point me to somwhere that might have them on vinyl, I would be so grateful.

Kitchen Person, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:31 (fourteen years ago) link

If your really liking 'Jonathan Sings' I'm pretty sure you'll love 'Rockin' n Romance', it has similar production and, to me, a stronger set of songs all round. That's crazy it's selling for so much now. I even think I have two copies, I might be able to help you out. I managed to find all the Jonathan LP's a few years back. Think the one I most struggled with was the 'I'm so confused' album.

'Back in Your Life' is essential. 'Affection' is one of my favourite Jonathan songs.

Totally forgot to mention the self titled album earlier. It might actually be the best of the LP's for me. Some outstanding songs on there i.e 'Micicals Will Start to Happen', 'A Mistake for Me' and 'Closer'. That album has some of Jonathan's best guitar playing.

AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Just had a look and it's 'It's Time For the Modern Lovers' that I have two copies of, not 'Rockin' n Romance'.

Does anyone know if 'Havin a Party', 'You Must Ask the Heart' and 'I, Jonathan' ever got a vinyl release?

AnotherDeadHero, Saturday, 13 March 2010 20:47 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4021/4585196011_5180679db6_o.jpg

iiiijjjj, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:51 (thirteen years ago) link

looool

the sound of a norwegian guy being wrong (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 7 May 2010 21:57 (thirteen years ago) link

class fucking act

tylerw, Friday, 7 May 2010 21:58 (thirteen years ago) link

I am seeing him in two days, seriously anticipating.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:19 (thirteen years ago) link

He is right on about the 4 seasons.

Band Fag X (u s steel), Saturday, 8 May 2010 00:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I see he's at the Casbah in San Diego in two weeks. Sounds like a magical night, love him and that place so much. Last thing I heard that moved me: "Time Has Gone By So Fast." All-time favorite: "You Must Ask the Heart."

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 8 May 2010 19:10 (thirteen years ago) link

He is right on about the 4 seasons.

― Band Fag X (u s steel)

CaptainLorax, Saturday, 8 May 2010 19:54 (thirteen years ago) link

i think i know what that letter is in response to... a review of a bryan ferry album by dave marsh, right?

funny--i've been listening to jonathan richman nonstop today.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 9 May 2010 03:50 (thirteen years ago) link

ok that was great.

anyone heard him do this newer version of "Old World"? probably the most radical rewrite i've ever heard an artist do for a song, the new version is a total rejection/kissoff of the old world with its "secrecy, torture, and keeping women in their place". the line about "I still love my parents" is gone, and it seems like whatever reactionary value the old song had in the early 70's isn't worth including anymore.

also A+ for the closer about how depression is good and you need to sit by the stinky pond instead of going to the plexiglass apartment.

bug holocaust (sleeve), Monday, 10 May 2010 06:04 (thirteen years ago) link

been listening to his latest LP a lot lately. i suppose it seems almost passé to praise a new jonathan richman album (does anyone buy his albums anymore?) but i quite like it.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i mean, it won't make any converts, but if you're willing to indulge him, it's quite moving.

the shambolic arrangements even have an artsy edge, which in a sideways sort of way returns him to his musical roots.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:25 (thirteen years ago) link

I for one will ALWAYS buy the new Jo Jo record.

I thought the last one was great, stronger than 'Her Mystery and Not of High Heels' and 'Not so much to be Loved as to Love'.

I thought it was great to hear him pick up the electric again, albiet very briefly.

AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 10 May 2010 14:52 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

i was just in a nostalgic mood (for the mid nineties, lol) and thought i would photograph this picture and stick it up here. he was sort of an asshole to my friends but was super nice to me and he held my hand a lot. this picture was in market square in knoxville, tn. he had arrived in town early for my friend to interview him and we got to chill for a while...

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs058.snc4/35253_10150214895280076_846520075_13710560_2172710_n.jpg

i am giving you the caesar salad of compliments (Nijoli), Saturday, 24 July 2010 22:22 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

awwww. when is that from? 1990s?

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 24 September 2010 06:14 (thirteen years ago) link

you must have a disorder that prevents you from reading parantheticals!

This is Steve Shasta btw.

Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, 24 September 2010 06:49 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

rockin' and romance is, right now, my favourite jr album. the new one is good too.

Spikey, Monday, 20 December 2010 09:49 (thirteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Not sure if he's a class act, but have you guys heard this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjEtJ0T61SQ

bamcquern, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:44 (twelve years ago) link

I thought it was someone doing a Modern Lovers-era Jonathan impression at first.

bamcquern, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 08:45 (twelve years ago) link

it was a 2008 vinyl only single. as you might expect it's pretty fun live.....going by reports :-( should have been included on Because Her Beauty is Raw and Wild tbh. and it's bside is another version of when we refuse to suffer, itself a good song. not sure if it's got the wonderful electric guitar the 2nd version has though. fun live version of when we refuse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ds33tuGRE64

elsewhere, 'i have come out to play' is actually the greatest song ever. sorry hey jude.

Spikey, Tuesday, 27 September 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

this is great - Jonathan Richman Reads A Poem For MOJO
http://soundcloud.com/mojomagazine/jonathan-richman-reads-a-poem
"Yes it feels strange. Yes it feels strange."

tylerw, Thursday, 23 February 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link

this guy is a class fucking act.

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 23:58 (twelve years ago) link

still got the moves despite his advancing years (either "old, almost forty" or "almost fifty") too.

he played 'old world' and 'girlfriend', has he been doing more of the old stuff lately or did i just get lucky?

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 1 March 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

i heard him do "girlfriend" a few years back, never heard "old world"... even though the approach of the original modern lovers stuff is different, not like a lot of those songs wouldn't fit into his set...

tylerw, Thursday, 1 March 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

I haven't seen him in at least a decade but he would occasionally break out Roadrunner, Old World, Pablo Picasso when I saw him several times in the late 90s/00s. Altho he was equally inclined to just play Sex Machine for half an hour.

Artful Dodderer (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 1 March 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link

i have a ticket to see him tomorrow which i had been trying to get rid of because i have other commitments, but now i'm considering just slipping out of those hopefully unnoticed...

new song 'bohemia' is a lot of fun, has a feeling more akin to the 70s and 80s stuff than to the last few albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh0_0XJ7PSM

shart practice (Merdeyeux), Thursday, 1 March 2012 00:18 (twelve years ago) link

as is his way, Jonathan re-wrote and re-recorded Old World for the 2008 album (don't remember the album name currently) so that's probably been a bit of a regular lately. He does a fair amount of Modern Lovers stuff really. There always seems to be at least one Modern Lovers song a night. It's the 1976 to about 1986 stuff that gets ignored, unless he's re-wrote and re-recorded it (Vincent Van Gough)

iirc what I just said is pretty much said by him here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjpuUNqCZQ8 but i'm not in a position to watch that right now

Spikey, Thursday, 1 March 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link

The Modern Lovers had a rhythm section
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, November 17, 2003 11:42 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the entire city of Olympia doesn't
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, November 17, 2003 11:44 PM (8 years ago

yeesh

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 1 March 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

Other than having a catchy chorus, "Bohemia" doesn't strike me as being that far removed from the stuff on the last couple of albums. He's definitely developed a more abstract style of songwriting.

timellison, Thursday, 1 March 2012 06:14 (twelve years ago) link

"heathercroall ‏ @heathercroall
I was standing up front right next to Nick Cave as Jonathan Richman sang about being pretentious and finding the Door to Bohemia. too funny"

So when Nick Cave attends a Jonathan Richman concert, do you think Jonathan recognizes Nick?

Spikey, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:38 (twelve years ago) link

i really have no idea how aware or tapped in Richman is to people like that who you might consider his peers or at least familiar to most of his fanbase

some dude, Friday, 2 March 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link

Is Nick looking at Jonathan and thinking,"Is this guy a class fucking act or what?"

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 2 March 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link

Can't help but hear the title of this thread being spoken by the voice of Mike Damon from Fast Times at Ridgemont High

Why Does Redd People Never Want To Blecch? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 3 March 2012 04:31 (twelve years ago) link

went to the Union Chapel gig last night and I can confirm that he is the fucking classest of acts.

I'm not going leftfield on you... (hypehat), Saturday, 3 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

saws him last night in berlin in the festsaal kreuzberg. it was packed and i sweated a lot. just him and a drummer. a very short set, only about one hour and three short encores. but i don't remember having smiled as much at any concert before. he finished with the song where the mind gets asked about love, can't handle the question and directs the asker to the heart. somehow he reminds me a lot of neil young, the same kind of innocence, the same kind of realness.

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

sp: i saw him last night...

alex in mainhattan, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

five months pass...

it's funny how much of this guy's oeuvre was 20-30 years ahead of its time with the de rigeur hipster-lifestyle topics - organic farming, hating cars, locavore foods etc

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:39 (eleven years ago) link

i dunno if he was that ahead of the curve on caring about those things, but he was definitely ahead of the curve in thinking "hey i can write a song about this" about lots of things he writes about

fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

Wow, Jess. Your opening post here is fan-fuckin'-tastic! It so perfectly evokes the feeling of being really truly surprisingly into something you "should" dislike, and that's one of my favorite things--and something you can never ever plan for.

Clarke B., Friday, 25 January 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

i saw richman live for the first time within a year of this thread being started (but don't think i had seen it then) and jess really does sum up really well why he's one of my favorite live acts ever.

fonkytimez lemonade (some dude), Friday, 25 January 2013 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

he was definitely ahead of the curve in thinking "hey i can write a song about this" about lots of things he writes about

writing a song about how awesome the local falafel stand is, for example, fits right into today's indie landscape - but I can't think of anybody doing that kind of thing besides him back then.

Welcome to my world of proses (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 25 January 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

I've been on a "backfill" with the Bezerkley albums, I only had the first one for ages. Now I have up to the live one.

Mark G, Friday, 25 January 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link


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