George W. Bush, the security threat to America and the states that support him

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what you need to know about atlanta: parties don't stop til eight in the morning

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

if maryland's in here, where's virginia? where's nevada? las vegas has received more repeated mentions/threats than any american city besides nyc, dc, and maybe san fran

LA and Miami more than San Fran, I thought. Vegas, Arlington and Alexandria did go for Gore in 2000, though I dunno why we're using pre-9/11 votes to measure concern about terrorism.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

women be shopping version 10359.2

The fact that i read the entire thing and thought about it means I get to talk about Momus.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

what you need to know about atlanta: parties don't stop til eight in the morning

That's what i need to know about Chicago, too! I mean, where the fuck are *those* parties? Maps would be appreciated.

Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 02:58 (nineteen years ago) link

in that one link of estimated Jewish population by state that gabbneb provided, there are 300 more Jewish people (estimated, of course) in Maine than in Alabama. Is Maine that much more hospitable to Jews? I dunno, but I had a really fun time at a bar mitzvah in Bangor four years ago.

Also, a point that I didn't get to make earlier (I had some errands to run): Timothy McVeigh was a Gulf War I vet.

Also, another point: the most significant acts of domestic terrorism I can think of other than Oklahoma City: D.C. Sniper and anthrax attacks. Both of which took place in urban and suburban settings. I guess you could throw in the Ohio sniper too, but then we'd have to really talk about suburban and rural areas and not just pay some sort of Brooksian lip-service to them.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i'd be interested in seeing which terrorist organization has killed the most americans - al qaeda or the kkk.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Is Maine that much more hospitable to Jews?

For one thing, I imagine that there are a lot more New Yorkers in Maine (where many in the Boston-to-DC-metroplex retire or reside for part of the year) than there are in Alabama. places where Jews are found in fewer numbers aren't necessarily inhospitable to them, of course (and i wasn't saying any such thing, if that wasn't clear). but minority status and the desire for/requirement of a community for religious observance are going to discourage Jews from moving to places where there aren't many Jews.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link

OR THE ANTI ABORTION SNIPERS.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

a sniper somewhere is a threat to anyone everywhere.

Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

gabbneb you're getting perilously close to "Hymietown" territory.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

what are you talking about?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 03:55 (nineteen years ago) link

you're getting perilously close to "Hymietown" territory

Is that a place now? What rights do they give its citizens? I may want to move there.

Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW, Jon, that was unnecessary, and fuck you. Unless there's some reason for you to especially hate this thread, there's no goddamn reason for that.

Lifted, or, the story is 'neath my ass (kenan), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:07 (nineteen years ago) link

listen to yourselves

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Can I just interject here -- in sort of an "I'm not gabbneb" maneuver -- that all I was really talking about, above, was the particular rhetoric of party support when it comes to this issue? Which is to say, the level of how vocal people in various places are about the issue, and how they appear to voice and argue from those concerns? We seem to have spiraled off into some point-scoring netherworld wherein hstencil, for instance (sorry stencil, just an example) has gone from saying "but the last attack was in OKCity" to "actually homegrown terrorists hit big cities too." Personally I'm aware of both of those things, and I'm also aware of the Michigan Militia, because I used to have to load huge slabs of beef onto the back of their camo trucks when I worked at a northern-Michigan (ring finger, second knuckle) grocery store. I remain interested in why people in non-"target" areas seem sometimes to be stronger in voicing their fears of attack than people in "target" areas, and while I'm sure the psychology discussed above plays into it, and while I'm sure on some level it's just a line that often derives from having a prexisting support for and belief in the administration, it still strikes me as somewhat fascinating. Anyway.

nabiscothingy, Friday, 22 October 2004 01:52 (nineteen years ago) link


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