Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

oh my god, reading that recap is showing me that my mind was trying to protect me from how goddamned stupid this movie is

wait, she was in batman forever

xpost -- Kidman is in Forever. And yes, that recap brings back the pain.

Don't worry, they do that too:

http://www.agonybooth.com/recaps/Batman_Forever_1995.aspx

okay phew I am not as crazy as I thought I was

Which film was it that had the scene where Chris O'Donnell storms off in the Batmobile, is cruising for chicks, and then has to fight a bunch of thugs with a neon-light backdrop? That was some great material, there.

(My scorn for these films, so much scorn)

That was Forever.

http://www.agonyboothmedia.com/images/articles/Batman_Forever_1995/Batman_Forever_1995_037.jpg

She rubs up against Batman and tells him to "send Junior home" because she's got some "wild oats to sow!" [?] If this is supposed to be a plant-related pun, they are really, really reaching now. Then she slides over to Robin, saying that "On the other hand, youth does have its advantages!" She calls Batman "geriatric" and tells Robin that "My garden needs tending!" Ew. No thanks.

She grabs the diamond from Commissioner Gordon and puts it around her neck, then announces to the entire crowd that "some lucky boy's about to hit the honey pot!" Okay, that's the second plant-themed allusion she's made to her genitalia in about half a minute. This is a witty script, no? She then basically offers her body to the highest bidder, and the men all start yelling out dollar amounts at a feverish pace. If you're wondering why Ivy is attempting to become the highest-paid prostitute ever, keep watching.

holy hell

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K2Y2cGDRhI

All of the promo posters and stills have Jim Carrey mugging with weird body language and facial expressions, just so you know this is a 90s Jim Carrey film with his totally awesome physical comedy and jokes.

I was a kid when I saw the Jim Carrey Riddler one and I really liked it for about a week or so. Batman & Robin is a movie so bad that it can't even be saved by the Rifftrax. Most of the movie they just sit in silence at how awful it is.

i was worried i'd hate the burton batman when i rewatched it recently, but it was really fun. i might take over dark knight as a whole - fewer ponderous speeches even if TDK has fresher "fuck YEAH" moments

Tom Hardy joins the cast.

Hahah this prediction maybe not too far off somehow:

Third Rock From The Sun kid to take over the Joker role. Maggie as Catwoman.

― I can't make my face turn into a heart (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:26 PM (1 year ago)

The Dark Knight Rises
http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2010/10/27/christopher-nolan-reveals-title-of-third-batman-film-and-that-it-wont-be-the-riddler/

Time for a thread title update...

shitty title, but so was Batman Begins

"The Dark Knight Rises" would make a good porn title.

Sounds like some studio bod wanted to call it "The Dark Knight II" and this was the compromise.

Pretty sure the villain is going to be Catwoman.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/50-Million-Strong-for-Neil-Hamburger-as-the-Riddler-in-the-next-Batman-film/127615277279042

Almost tempted to make a Worst Batman Movie Title poll, but as lame as this one is, nothing beats Batman Forever

Batman vs Bronson <---much better idea

Hardy could be a less well-known villain who they make as the official lead. Or how about the Penguin?

Pretty sure the villain is going to be Catwoman.

^^^my money's on this, seeing as how Maggie Gyllenhaal is still alive and under contract for the third movie

Maggie Gyllenhaal isn't playing Catwoman.

Pretty sure Christopher Nolan is the villain here.

xpost -- "Why Robin you've...changed."

Maggie Gyllenhaal isn't playing Catwoman.

and you say this, why...?

Because she played a character who died in the last movie. It's a stupid idea that audiences would find confusing.

xp She might be an interesting Catwoman, but what is it in Rachel Dawes' psychology/character arc that would make her return as a villain?

It will be hard for the third film to top the crazed-nihilist-attacks-the-city angle so it makes sense that they might go for a more ambiguous villain, someone who aligns with Batman in a different way to the Joker.

hardy as a nu-style Hugo Strange would give them a decent sci-fi angle

And characters rising from the dead isn't in keeping with Nolan's ultra-realistic real-world non-fantastical realistic Gotham.

Hoping it's Bane, frankly.

Because she played a character who died in the last movie. It's a stupid idea that audiences would find confusing.

I see you are unfamiliar with the cats/nine lives mythos. most importantly, you don't see her die on-screen. there are several oblique references to cats in the movie. how her character arc would be handled is a little more difficult to work out, but obviously the being betrayed by Bruce/let down by Batman thing would figure in

but really the dead giveaway is that she's under contract for the third movie.

what, do you think she's going to appear in a bunch of flashbacks or something.

I think haunting flashbacks make more sense for Nolan than magical resurrections.

I may be forgetting someone, but the options for new elements are basically Sexy Time With Catwoman, wacky mob types (Ventriloquist, Maxie Zeus, etc), sci-fi dudes (Freeze, Strange), vigilantes with an oppositional moral code (Azrael, Anarky) and monsters (Bane, Croc).

At once.

but really the dead giveaway is that she's under contract for the third movie.

what, do you think she's going to appear in a bunch of flashbacks or something.

― men just grunt it all out together (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 1:42 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

so is Aaron Eckhart, it doesn't mean anything

i don't think nolan wants to return to the burton well too often and i don't think he's going to really mess around with "rises from the dead" kinda shit, like that article likewise suggests.

I guess there's also clue-leaving serial types like Riddler and Zsasz but with Nolan saying his inspiration was that this is the Last Batman Movie he'll probably go for bigger game than just Solvin' Puzzles With Bats.

given that the moral quandaries involved with being Batman are central to Nolan's take on the character, having his longtime paramour become warped/turned against him would fit in nicely

and again I don't see any need for "magical" resurrections - you don't see her die on-screen, you see an explosion. people survive movie explosions ALL THE TIME

xp

yeah being under contract doesn't mean they have been paid and are gonna appear, it just suggests to me she's there just in case she's needed for something like flashbacks or nightmares or something.

Hoping it's Bane, frankly.

― James Mitchell, Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:39 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

man itd be pretty sweet to have AZRAEL around -- that saga was so chill

with Nolan saying his inspiration was that this is the Last Batman Movie he'll probably go for bigger game than just Solvin' Puzzles With Bats.

^^^totally agree with this. this is going to be some conclusive-character-arc sorta stuff

"Oh hey, Gordon, you know how Harvey went apeshit because his girlfriend died in that explosion? Turns out she survived, crawled out, and didn't tell anyone until his madcap time as Two-Face came to an end."

"Oh, the sad, plausible irony!"

from the themes & plot points set up in the first two movies, really seems like the next villain will be a false good guy heroically persusing the dangerous menace 'bat man' for the good of the city, but really working for shady moneyed interests or his/her own whacked psychology. if batman was 'order' and joker 'chaos', i bet number 3 works on an inversion of this.

or a glory-hunter type who pulls crazy stuff in a reality-show way w/o batman's principles. super-celebrity for its own sake kind of a thing.

but i don't know comics so i dunno who these would be.

MAN-BAT

Turns out she survived, crawled out, and didn't tell anyone until his madcap time as Two-Face came to an end."

um, his madcap time as Two-Face lasted all of what, a day? two days?

MAN-BAT

― lol tea partiers and their fat fingers (HI DERE), Wednesday, October 27, 2010 5:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^^omg this is the best idea