pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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talking about pitchfork album scores is ilx taboo for a good reason, ilxor. i'm sure there is a 1000+ post thread on stereogum about it you can consult if you really need to flesh this out. it's pretty obvious on an instinctive common sense level that individual album scores are submitted by their respective reviewers and BNM is like, staff picks or editor's favourites. i don't understand what is controversial or worth discussing about it.

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link

HI DERE

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I realize it's not really worth discussing, now it's just fun to watch people get all worked up about Pfork and people talking about Pfork and it just becomes spectacular. Not my intention when I first posted above but hey...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ok so youre saying you caught shit for your post but it's cool because you stumbled into trolling?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

So is Whiney the comic book guy of this website?

Evan, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ok so youre saying you caught shit for your post but it's cool because you stumbled into trolling?

tbh I don't see how that position makes him any different from over half of the regular posters here

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

calling you retarded =/= getting worked up about pfork

iatee, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

xp that may be true, i didn't know it worked like that! maybe i should say dumber shit here.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:34 (fourteen years ago) link

just do what i do kid

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link

- I realize the ratings are pretty much trivial, and I'm not bashing either record (enjoy both), but how does this *really* make any sense?? I think there have been other cases of maybe Baroness, Converge or someone too un-Pfork-y scoring in the 8.5 realm and not making Best New Music... what gives?

- I'm not mad, just pointing out the disconnect between ratings and BNM tags.

Well of course they're disconnected: they're two different things. If everything above an 8.x was automatically BNM, what would the point of BNM be? It wouldn't tell you anything at all.

I mean, I would type out a whole lengthy explanation, but a lot of this has been said by n/a. My understanding as a (minor) contributor is that you should think of it this way: ratings represent close attention to individual records by individual critics. BNM represents the site's staff looking over everything and picking out a set of records that they can solidly recommend to the audience as a whole as being notable and great. It's like a "featured" rack. A "maybe start by directing your attention here" pointer. A "we don't expect you to read every single review, so here's the stuff we're pretty confident you might find rewarding" shortlist.

I mean, if a stranger who'd never heard any of your records asked you to pick out 10 albums you'd recommend listening to, would they really be the same as the records you'd rate highest when talking about each one individually? It certainly wouldn't be for me.

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I would type out a whole lengthy explanation, but

go haim on em (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm on the Internet today.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Expressing curiosity about how Pitchfork works isn't always equal to getting worked up about it. Getting worked up about someone supposedly getting worked up about Pitchfork seems way more pointless though many do that to ironically prove they are somehow cooler/above it?

Evan, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

wait aren't you getting worked up about someone getting worked up about someone supposedly getting worked up about pitchfork

iatee, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

this is all going to end like "Event Horizon" where Satan makes us all eat our own eyes, isn't it

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:47 (fourteen years ago) link

this would be the thread for it

iatee, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw dude got multiple sincere answers; but ask a q abt p4k and you better expect a bunch of b- zings imo

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/8770/crisisoninfiniteearths.jpg

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean, if a stranger who'd never heard any of your records asked you to pick out 10 albums you'd recommend listening to, would they really be the same as the records you'd rate highest when talking about each one individually?

Really good way to characterize things, imo.

Thx nabisco!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah but I am not worked up, otherwise good point! Just my observation.

Evan, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

ok so youre saying you caught shit for your post but it's cool because you stumbled into trolling?

Yeah, pretty much.

tbh I don't see how that position makes him any different from over half of the regular posters here

And, yeah, pretty much.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

if anyone cares, this blog had a pretty interesting and comprehensive study on why there is sometimes a .1 difference between Best New Music and otherwise

go haim on em (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

hi dere's zing was an A-, not a B-

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing about that question nabisco asks is that between the ages of 13 and 27, I am pretty sure my answer would have been "yes, absolutely"

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah but I am not worked up, otherwise good point! Just my observation.

whoa man no need to get worked up

iatee, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

I realize the ratings are pretty much trivial, and I'm not bashing either record (enjoy both), but how does this *really* make any sense?? I think there have been other cases of maybe Baroness, Converge or someone too un-Pfork-y scoring in the 8.5 realm and not making Best New Music... what gives?

u shld b set on fire

Lamp, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing about that question nabisco asks is that between the ages of 13 and 27, I am pretty sure my answer would have been "yes, absolutely"

1. The Cure "Goth Beach Party"
2. Depeche Mode "We're Dead in the Graveyard"
3. Bach "Bach is Fucking Awesome in B Minor"
4. The Cure "Sadness is Contageous"
5. Blink 182 "Take Off Your Pants and Jack It"
6. Prince "holyshitiamsoloingwiththisguitariloveU2much"
7. U2 "Zooropa"
8. Insane Clown Posse "ISP 4: The Faygo Years"
9. Dreamboat Gorilla "Songs from Nantucket"
10. Jewel "Songs in the Key of Teddybears"

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Hi Lamp. Howya doin.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

iatee, just calm down! Alright?!!?!?!!? GAHHHH!!!

Evan, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf Que

you know I would never in a million years rep for Dreamboat Gorilla

we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

u shld b set on fire

Speaking of fire... the new High on Fire album got an 8.0 but no Best New Music?!?!!!?! OMG WTF DIE P4RK DIEEEEEEEE

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13966-snakes-for-the-divine/

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

who is better ilxor or kshighway

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:01 (fourteen years ago) link

i give 1 an 8.2 the other an 8.4 but only one is a best new poster

Lamp, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

just kidding theyre both terrible

Lamp, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:02 (fourteen years ago) link

just kidding theyre both terrible

― Lamp

i lol'd

ksh, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

1.2

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

guys

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:31 (fourteen years ago) link

am I gonna have to draw ILX's fire with lurid revelations again

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

do it

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ok well i had a steamy threesome with pitchfork and cokemachineglow - you'll never guess who enjoyed THAT one the most

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

let's just say that it's called pitchfork for a reason

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you what now

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

you had sex with a website

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:33 (fourteen years ago) link

two websites

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I've done that. Not with two, though.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

4.3

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=44

bamcquern, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

7.2

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:37 (fourteen years ago) link

no chance of catching logorrhea tho - we all made sure to wear wizard's caps

its sad he was a blogger (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:38 (fourteen years ago) link


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