For the non-unicorn people who care, here's the excerpt from Erik Davis's profile I refer to two posts above:
Rough stuff. But Newsom’s relationship with the Yuba goes deeper than such idylls. Towards the end of high school, when she was eighteen, Newsom went down alone to a wild spot along the river. After asking their assistance, she arranged some stones into a circle, and then sat down within the ring. She stayed in the circle for three days, fasting, facing the river. Her best friend and some pals camped a few miles away, bringing her water and small portions of rice while she slept. She had assigned herself things to do but abandoned them all. She just sat there and watched the river, and, even more, she listened to it.“I was a completely different person before I went to the river, and a completely different person after,” Newsom says. When she first got back the girl was a total wreck. She would start crying when she woke up and not quit until she slept. She stopped going to school. She’d pick up the local paper, and read a headline like “Man Dies in Car Crash,” and then the crash would be in her mind, and the man’s bloody crumbled body, and his pain and dread and fearful exit from this world. “None of the calluses or borders or walls we put up to protect ourselves from going absolutely insane while experiencing life – none of those stood anymore. They had been worn completely away. I was like infantile and dysfunctional, a weepy, drunk mess.”
“I was a completely different person before I went to the river, and a completely different person after,” Newsom says. When she first got back the girl was a total wreck. She would start crying when she woke up and not quit until she slept. She stopped going to school. She’d pick up the local paper, and read a headline like “Man Dies in Car Crash,” and then the crash would be in her mind, and the man’s bloody crumbled body, and his pain and dread and fearful exit from this world. “None of the calluses or borders or walls we put up to protect ourselves from going absolutely insane while experiencing life – none of those stood anymore. They had been worn completely away. I was like infantile and dysfunctional, a weepy, drunk mess.”
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Weird. It's like instead of her liminal moment inaugurating her into adulthood, it had the opposite function. Maybe this is what happens sometimes when people invent their own liminal rituals based on cartoons they've seen and that one Carlos Castaneda book they've read and not on personal, communal, familial traditions.
― Mordy, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:18 (fourteen years ago) link
the NY Times piece was pretty meh, but the magazine sucks these days anyway.
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
^ A++
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
glad you at least gave it a chance, tbf
not sure what was A+ about my comment. it was either read that article or the one about "can we teach teachers to teach better," or better yet the article last week "clinical depression might actually be good for us"
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
gotta say that excerpt appears to be grade-A evidence for the case against going on a vision quest
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yup
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
hahaha, the A+ was just because a lukewarm comment from you on Newsom was in character. no big thing. but i'm glad you gave it a chance, really
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
i feel like my childhood is meaningless after reading that. i threw a history text book into a river once but that's it
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
my comment was on the article not Newsom.
http://www.google.com/search?q=reading+comprehension&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link
no wolves tbf
http://www.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/article-1192276-054d437a000005dc-575_634x734.jpg
― tylerw, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
you knew what i meant dude. yawning @ you
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
maybe you need to go on a vision quest and learn how to read
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:28 (fourteen years ago) link
christ get a room you two
― call all destroyer, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:30 (fourteen years ago) link
i haven't fucked a sock since high school
― Mr. Que, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
okay no
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
i laughed
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 16:31 (fourteen years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Monday, 8 March 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://dinosaursinnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/221106-unizoom2.jpg
― I spent four bloody years there (acoleuthic), Monday, 8 March 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Only vision quest I've ever done was when I picked up my new glasses.
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 8 March 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I do love "1981."
― The Magnificent Colin Firth (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 March 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
"'81," rather.
retagged "51" in my playlist - sounds better now
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Monday, 8 March 2010 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
the more i listen to this the more i think she could have just released the first disc as a whole album and i would have been satisfied
― max, Monday, 8 March 2010 17:35 (fourteen years ago) link
second disc pretty important too imo. third disc i'm not totally sold on.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 8 March 2010 17:59 (fourteen years ago) link
http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/newsom2.JPG
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link
http://i49.tinypic.com/igcjed.jpg
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:10 (fourteen years ago) link
I swear that "slow as molasses [. . .] time passes" line is from the opening theme song to Evening Shade...
http://sharetv.org/images/evening_shade-show.jpg
― Sam Weller, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0PfHemuvs
― Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:12 (fourteen years ago) link
snorg girl looks crazy
xxxp
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
calling a song about AD 1, '81 is very shrewd
so is the domesticated wolf story — it's the whole born-in-the-80s thing of being aware of how ludicrous yr attempts at 'spirituality' are and feeling the need to undercut them
on the other hand ppl seem v capable of missing the point
where is that gif oh yeah:
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj303/Thatairsoftkid/HatersGonnaHate.jpg
― thomp, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i thought the wolf story was kind of sweet. clearly it was an experience that meant a lot to her but its also clear how silly she realizes the whole thing was
― max, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:22 (fourteen years ago) link
And then I saw three white wolves...
http://timberwolfhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/3-wolves-howling-tshirt.jpg
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 8 March 2010 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://maliciousglee.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/joanna-newsom.jpg
― called something like Hoppy Polar by Ziggy Ross (ksh), Monday, 8 March 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Has she always made such faces while singing?
― Sam Weller, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Thats what I was wondering, never watched any live performances before this. I wondered if she has always done that, or if that was something that went along with her voice changes.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, gotta admit that it was a bit offputting. I don't recall this from the concert I saw, but maybe I just forgot. I feel pretty confident saying that the facial contortions and other odd tics are not at all necessary to achieve a particular vocal effect.
― Moodles, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:40 (fourteen years ago) link
fallon clip is a good song.
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
kinda reminds me of brian wilson's weird facial contortions
― velko, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think the faces were a put on...kinda weird but lots of times it looks like she might have some issues with singing and playing piano at the same time, like she would make a little face before a chord change or something..or maybe they are just tics she developed when she was learning...i do little weird things playing bass cuz it's just habit
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 8 March 2010 22:48 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't think they are put on either, just a bit odd. Didn't keep me from enjoying her performance.
― Moodles, Monday, 8 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
She certainly does it - or has done it - playing harp, no doubt because of how she has to awkwardly turn to face the mic. Not a lot of harp playing vocalists to compare to.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 March 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
ah man whose that one NY art scene transvestite dude that does the harp stuff??? gah i saw him once opening for someone
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 8 March 2010 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Baby Dee?
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Monday, 8 March 2010 23:05 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1303/1071346137_0536951fab.jpg
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Monday, 8 March 2010 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link
the jimmy fallon clip reinforces my impression that she's really toned down the vocal tics, and as a result, her material is a lot easier to digest and enjoy. her voice is so much better on what i've heard from this disc than it has been in the past.
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 8 March 2010 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Shame about the song.
― Turangalila, Monday, 8 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 8 March 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link