50 great things about Fleetwood Mac's "Tusk"

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hmmm... interesting...

i think ill check out the rest of the "classic period" pop albums, but maybe then ill move back to some of the peter green/blues/etc stuff.

thanks amst! that one looks really good, too. "transitional albums" pwn.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Rumours > Fleetwood Mac, but both are entirely classic. Rumours is certainly in Beatles territory as far as the quality-to-popularity ratio goes.

PB, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

"thanks amst! that one looks really good, too. "transitional albums" pwn."

Which is why I defend "Mirage," Peter.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I've always had a weird pathological fascination with the number 3, and its recurrances in nature. And so I've always loved trilogies of all sorts - the IDEA of them, that is, not necessarily the content - and that extends to albums. Any consecutive trio of chronological LP that are usually lumped together, from The Stooges/Fun House/Raw Power through Low/Heroes/Lodger to Swordfishtrombones/Rain Dogs/Frank's Wild Years gives me a warm feeling. And if it's not a trilogy officially recognized as such by others, I'll happily do it myself. So, in the tradition of Bowie's "Berlin Trilogy" and Tom Waits's "Island Trilogy" and Slayer's "Rick Rubin Trilogy", I speak of Fleetwood Mac's "Off-white Trilogy", of which Tusk is the third instalment. So its very existence comforts me (even though I don't actually OWN it! so sue me!) And so, that's the 69th-or-so Great Thing about Tusk.

And yeah, I probably will buy it one of these days, since you've all made it sound most intriguing; and I do own & enjoy its two predecessors after all. I honestly don't think I've heard "Tusk" itself since it slipped off the charts 25+ years ago!

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

stevie gets sensual and doesn't know the effect she had on me.
my pants are shrinking just thinking about it.

stevie's bf, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link

someone covered it
http://www.sanity.com.au/search.asp?LOC=1379&q=tusk&l=1303&f=

stevie's bf, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

semi-OT: i've never heard camper van beethoven's version, but i can tell you than dougal reed's version of Rumours is shocking tripe except for "second hand news".

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Nobody mentioned Lindsay's awesome eyeliner...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link

and the cool sneakers on the cover

The Emancipation of Baaderonixx (KERERU 4 LIFE!) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I believe both have been mentioned, in fact.

PB, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Stevie Nicks' delivery of the lines "I still look up... when you walk in the room. I've the same wiiiiide eyes" in "Angel" could (could) be her finest moment.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link

although she's pretty damn remarkable on "Beautiful Child" too.

my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 14 November 2005 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Weird. "Save Me a Place" came up on the random shuffle and I was blown away by it. And then I noticed this thread five minutes later. So...

68. It made my afternoon.

Billy Pilgrim (Billy Pilgrim), Monday, 14 November 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
69. the fact the "its not that funny" and "i know im not wrong are actually the same song, and theres a common part of the lyrics on both of the songs:
"here comes the night time...etc.." sung very similiar.

70. the fact that most of the non-lindsey songs are less good, makes lindsey's songs shine even better,comparing to the others.

shoot the, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link

71. Nah, Christine's songs also rule.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link

72. She is an absolute darling on this record.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 09:58 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
This song is fairly traumatic for me, as I am an alum of the University of Southern California.
USC's marching band, plays on the track, of course... to this day, you hear this song an average of 500 times a day walking across campus. For the final horn bursts, though, you are supposed to shout along "U-C-L-A sucks!"

is this really true? i'm so excited!

s/c johnson wax (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 March 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link

btw usc is so proud of the "tusk" thing that it's on their website:

Trojan Marching Band
The history of the "Spirit of Troy," the USC marching band, goes back to the inception of the university in 1880. The contemporary Trojan band began in 1970 with the arrival of Dr. Arthur C. Bartner and his unique "drive-it" style of marching. The band has performed at the Academy Awards, the Hollywood Bowl, the Rose Parade, and in numerous film and television productions. In 1979, the Trojan Marching Band recorded the title track for the album "Tusk" with the rock group Fleetwood Mac, which resulted in a platinum album for that song; no other collegiate marching band has ever been so honored.

s/c johnson wax (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 March 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link

73. the way that the echo on Lindsey's vocals on "That's All For Everyone" makes it sound like he's singing "must be just too sexy"

aaron d.g. (aaron d.g.), Friday, 17 March 2006 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link

74. "Brown Eyes" and "Never Make Me Cry" are really the same song: the first relating the onset of a desire that can only lead to danger, the second the devastating results.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 17 March 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

75. christine mcvie being perfectly cool and unflappable in the midst of everyone else's madness

s/c johnson wax (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 17 March 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Former cheerleader Stevie leads the USC band...

http://fleetwoodmac-uk.com/articles/Images/mojo_dec2003/stevie1.jpg

The Equator Lounge (Chris Barrus), Friday, 17 March 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I can't stop listening to side 4. It's been like two weeks now. Everyday, at least once. God.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 7 April 2006 03:48 (eighteen years ago) link

"Never Forget" - Even though I think I've heard all Christine McVie stuff released in the world now, I'm not so sure that isn't her finest moment ever. But it's a tough call.

Porcupine Kiss, Novacaine Lips (Bimble...), Friday, 7 April 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I've been listening to this this week, too. I was really convinced the other night that "The stars must be my friends to shine for me" was the greatest lyric ever.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:51 (eighteen years ago) link

Krupa, you got the deluxe edition? That "Farmer's Daughter" is one of *the* finest things Buckingham's ever done.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 7 April 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link

I used to always skip "Never Forget"; now I think it's absolutely necessary when you consider the bottomless sadness of "Brown Eyes" and "Never Make Me Cry."

The one dud is "Honey Hi."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 11:41 (eighteen years ago) link

honey hi is NOT A DUG.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

and by dug, i mean dud.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.webmagic.com/klov.com/screens/D/wDig_Dug.png

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 April 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link

I burned all the Buckingham songs from tusk on a disc. It's pretty much the best e.p. ever. EVER.

Will (will), Friday, 7 April 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link

but having not heard the live album version I can't say. Anyone?

its the same one. and you should reaslly check out the live album, it's fantastic, for so many reasons... the coked out portraits on the inner gatefold, the noticeable lack-of-audience-reaction when Christine McVie introduces 'Over And Over' with a sort-of-mumbled "Well, we haven't played anything from Tusk yet... So..."... and the version of 'over and over' slays the album take, and there's a killer 'i'm so afraid' with this absolutely torturous guitar solo (lindsey goes shred!), and 'never going back again' and 'not that funny' and 'landslide' are all sublime in their own, wildly different ways...

i am not a nugget (stevie), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link

The live version of "Not That Funny" with Lindsey cackling maniacally is frightening.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

You know, I've been listening to this this week, too. I was really convinced the other night that "The stars must be my friends to shine for me" was the greatest lyric ever.

And it likely is. But without her delivery...

Porcupine Kiss, Novacaine Lips (Bimble...), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

No actually I don't think there's a bad McVie song on this album.

Porcupine Kiss, Novacaine Lips (Bimble...), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link

With the exception of "Honey Hi," nothing falls below her usual standards. I've always had a bigger problem with Nicks' "Angel" and "Sisters of the Moon," although I've softened on the latter, admiring the distorted power chords (credit to whoever noted this upthread).

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 7 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Another cool thing on the live album: The guitar hero bad crazyness of "Oh Well"

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
"Over and Over"...motherfuck.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:21 (seventeen years ago) link

This entire album, as a matter of fact: GODDAMN.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

The drumming on "Sara", and the production thereof: GODDAMN.

Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:30 (seventeen years ago) link

dude we need to bro out to it soon!

Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 12 May 2006 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

"The live version of "Not That Funny" with Lindsey cackling maniacally is frightening."

The place I had lunch at the other day has "Live" on their jukebox. I played this track, and MAN OH MAN was it great. Love the the drawn-out ending.

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:27 (seventeen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
This is the sort of stupid conspiracy theory that deserves to be ridiculed, but I occasionaly wonder if there's a Fleetwood Mac/Swans connection. Could probably come up w/more evidence if pressed, but off the top of my head:

Children of God=title of Swans album, cult that Jeremy Spencer joined
Beautiful Child=song on both albums
Sha la la la on "Brown Eyes" and on "Like A Drug (Sha La La La)"
Chord progression of Children of God is awfully close to a part of the marching band bit on Tusk, both songs founded on a drum motif.
Palindrome song title = "Sex, God, Sex" and "Over & Over"

...which is starting to stretch, but seriously, there's something about the plodding rhythms of much of Tusk and the ethereal backing vocals and the way tracks build up without much melodic development that makes me wonder if Gira spent some time listening to this when he was trying to figure out how to take Swans pop.

dlp9001 (dlp9001), Thursday, 8 June 2006 15:38 (seventeen years ago) link

6. genius-like simplicity in songwriting, example #2: "that's all for everyone"

This is my new favorite song for this week. I'm also beginning to think this is one of the greatest albums ever made.

"Over & Over," btw, is a PERFECT way to begin the record. Gorgeous, reflective, amazingly well crafted ... and completely sane. Thereby making it completely misleading, as Lindsay and Stevie proceed to take the album into alien territory. Christine McVie ... sorely underrated. Pop genius to (almost) rival Lindsay's.

And a TS: "What Makes You Think You're the One" as is vs. the Christine-sung ballad arrangement I hear in my head.

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 17:43 (seventeen years ago) link

My head exploded in bliss as I imagined a hundred multitracked Christines singing "That's All for Everyone"

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Tusk really does inspire devotion among critic types, doesn't it? It's just one of those records that's endlessly fascinating. For anyone need of exhibit A of what music ciriticism used to be, check out Stephen Holden's review of the record from Rolling Stone -- he really nails the album and does a wonderful job of putting it cultural context

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:47 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a Mennonite friend who's a nut for Sacred Harp singing and vocal music in general... I think I'm going to buy him a copy of this record.

The Jazz Guide to Penguins on Compact Disc (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, and anti-devotion, too. :-)

O'Connor (OConnorScribe), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:39 (seventeen years ago) link


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