Primal Scream.

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i am still -- insanely, perhaps -- holding out some hope for this.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 10:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:01 (fifteen years ago) link

*Bimble mumbles under his breath* *talentless git who just happened to be good friends with Alan McGee* cough cough

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

My brane still says XTRMNTR is awesome and the best thing they've ever done, but I've not got it out in ages so it might not hold up now.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Apart from two or three songs, it doesn't. Screamadelica does, though.

nate woolls, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:17 (fifteen years ago) link

"Can't go back, I can't go back."

It says something when Gillespie is reduced to ripping off old BMX Bandits lyrics.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahah! Wow, man. I barely know BMX Bandits. That's an interesting gap in my musical knowledge I should probably try to correct.

Just like recently when I finally tried to listen to some Fuzzbox songs aside from their track on C86. I mean you know...the girl band, right? We've Got A Fuzzbox And We're Gonna Use It. Man, those were the days.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR is still awesome.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with nate: it's less awesome than it was in the late nineties. it's the best thing they did, by far, but i listened to it a few months ago (and posted somewhere about it: maybe on this very thread?) and thought, hmm, this is not the ball-crushing behemoth i remember.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I have no desire to hear this at all.

me neither but i still rep for some of Evil Heat

blueski, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:44 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like "Can't Go Back". If the rest of the album's in that vein, I'll be happy. But I'm fully prepared for disappointment.

(Full disclosure. I like: Vanishing Point, XTRMNTR, Evil Heat. I like about 50% of: Screamadelica. Oh and the Dixie-Narco EP's good. I hate: everything else.)

Jeff W, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link

2nd primal scream album is underrated

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Vanishing Point is my fave, although I haven't heard an awful lot other than that and Screamadelica.

the next grozart, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR only came out in Jan/Feb 2000

wau? i associate it vividly with a very specific time and place in my life, which i'd swear blind was pre-millennial 1999.

<googles, thinks, ponders>

ah, hang on. i got a promo. so although it's obviously later than i thought, i *was* listening to this before the millennium. good. i'm not losing my mind.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 11:59 (fifteen years ago) link

the only version thats been kicking around supposedly on mp3 version has been tracks with a 30 second loop stretching the songs out to full length.

uh oh.

this, er, might have been the version that...

...oh, it just doesn't bear thinking about.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 12:35 (fifteen years ago) link

a ha ha ha ha.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

haha
with bobbys usual repetitive lyrics its probably hard to notice its just a loop.
But I think it's better to wait til a proper rip is out (i know I want to hear it before I buy it after the last album)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 12:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, we've all done it.

Haven't we.

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:30 (fifteen years ago) link

http://a0.vox.com/6a00c2251ce3f4f21900e398f379e80004-320pi

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://troubled-diva.com/themanwho.jpg

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I got a d/l of "Run" Snow patrol, which was just the first line of the song repeated for 3 mins until it cut. I did think wow how intense in an indie way, until I heard the actual single...

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Actually, on UniChall last night, one question referred to the HM Bateman cartoons, and "which three words" were his 'signature' cartoon captions..

"The Man Who"

Which explains that Travis album, all these years later.

Mark G, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

"Sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout, presumably produced electronically. This might sound arid, to say the least, but in fact constant listening reveals a curious point: the pitch of the tone alters frequently, but only by micro-tones or, at most, a semi-tone. This oscillation produces an almost subliminal, uneven 'beat' which maintains interest."

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

that travis record was disgrace, i bort it and took back to shopp ask them where is convoy gb and snooker loopie. he is imposters looks nothing like hairy monstar.

Dingbod Kesterson, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

sides two and four consist entirely of single tones maintained throughout

my favourite music-hackery story ever, i think.

I just hope the 30 second loops version isnt better than the proper

i fear it will be.

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"DEAR RICHARD THANK YOU FOR YOUR FANTASTIC REVIEW ON OUR WEDDING ALBUM INCLUDING C-AND-D SIDES STOP WE ARE CONSIDERING IT FOR OUR NEXT RELEASE STOP MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT IN SAYING THAT THEY ARE THE BEST SIDES STOP WE BOTH FEEL THAT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME A CRITIC TOPPED THE ARTIST STOP WE ARE NOT JOKING STOP LOVE AND PEACE STOP JOHN AND YOKO LENNON"

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Still absolutely the worst band ever.

Dr.C, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:08 (fifteen years ago) link

As the person who gave M t-d the 30 second loop version I must add my shame and apologies before I delete the relevant files. Must confess that I'd listened to the album twice in the background and not noticed, but I was a bit confused when I checked out the supposed highlight 'Over and Over' which is a duet with Linda Thompson and couldn't hear her at all. Obviously she doesn't appear in the first thirty seconds...

canfan, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I maintain the only really decent thing of Primal Scream is Screamadelica. End of story.

Yes!

Why does XTRMNTR get such props? It sounds like a parody record (Shields remix aside).

Venga, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:13 (fifteen years ago) link

what's wrong with parody?

blueski, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I love HM Bateman. Primal Scream, I can take or leave, though was pleasantly impressed by them on Johnny Ross last Friday night.

Billy Dods, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR still sounds like a dope pop album to me. I think it sounds different stateside where you don't get any bullshit promo for this band unless you seek it out---from what I gather, the band is pretty overbearing.

Euler, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

The lyrics on XTRMNTR make Rik from The Young Ones look like Friedrich Engels.

Venga, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

SYPHILITIC SWASTIKA
SHOOT IT INTO THE SUN
HIGHER THAN THE SICK SICK SUN
FUCK PARALYTIC DESTROY
I LOST MY GIRL TO A NAZI BOY

Just got offed, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

So Beautiful Future is rubbish, right? I've not heard it yet but a five-star OMM review is surely a good indicator... Anyway what do people think of the Andy Weatherall remix of Uptown? It's the best thing I've heard in ages...

Kaliova, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Weatherall's Uptown remix is fantastic, and the album is not. It spurts to life in a couple of spots, but there isn't much to recommend it.

Millsner, Thursday, 17 July 2008 19:42 (fifteen years ago) link

on a first listen, this is underwhelming as fuck. "glory of love" is OK once but THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS is taking the piss.

it sounds like an album without any balls. none at all. not even one really malformed one.

grimly fiendish, Thursday, 17 July 2008 20:58 (fifteen years ago) link

^ OTM. It's not so much that the album commits any musical crimes, but that it fails to engage on any level at all.

Millsner, Thursday, 17 July 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Top Tory broadsheet music writer I, ALEXIS likes it not (he does have a point though).

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Point? I think he's spot on!

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:24 (fifteen years ago) link

1) Screamadelica is their most celebrated album.

2) The album with the least singing/lyrical content from BGill is....

Mark G, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:26 (fifteen years ago) link

The crass Crass remark suggests that he'd think the same no matter who sung or wrote these sentiments or how they were performed or sung. Socialism is so irritating and unsexy, darlings...

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Tim Burgess was repping Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean:

Tim Burgess was repping, as a rapper would say, Crass and Rudimentary Peni in the Big Issue recently. That was pretty wtf?

Raw Patrick, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah yes, non-tax paying American citizen Tim Burgess...

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

i like that guardian review a lot.

grimly fiendish, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:45 (fifteen years ago) link

can i just say re tim burgess : umm wtf is with the new haircut ?
just looks soo wrong.

mark e, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Petridis so read the ILX reaction to his review of whatever the last Primal Scream record was called. I remember people posting "omg *obviously* he thinks its shit even if he isn't saying so" and "has any band ever had such a free pass from the music press as Primal Scream?"

Matt DC, Friday, 18 July 2008 08:50 (fifteen years ago) link


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