i think this is the implication i'm referring to. that being poncey is seen as a bad thing? why is it?
this reminds me of being back in yorkshire
― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:19 (nineteen years ago) link
Bollocks -- anyway, how do you make out that inner-city residents are better-behaved than the B&T lot? I don't see it.
My last post was a bit confused, but basically I was refuting the idea that by calling out the idea of the B&T as snobbish I was not being inversely-snobbish towards all you excitingly-coiffed Zone 1 and 2ers.
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Is using the term "Tory" to describe Conservatives offensive to the Irish because it originated in Ireland?
"Bridge and Tunnel" was once an origin, it is now a behaviour.
(The funny thing is, in my experience, actual born and bred city dwellers do tend to be a lot more respectful of each other on a certain level because they understand that's what it's necessary to do to live packed in so closely. But this is my personal experience, not a generalisation.)
I understand what Gareth is trying to say, maybe because it's the same people always making the same arguments, and dragging class in during every single argument.
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris (chris), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
2 xposts
Kate, I kinda see what you mean, but 'B&T' suggests disapproval of the object it relates to on snobbish grounds: like 'prole', in certain contexts I don't like it.
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I would like to see some more photoshoppery, though.
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Can you fix it for me to be photoshopped into a picture waving my thumbs at Gareth and Kate for blowing up the Luton Arndale centre?
Chzthxbye!
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link
I mean, goddamit. Is the sensation of snobbery really so irresistible to you? Are you not aware that your tedious posts on classism, etc, read like someone vomiting after having a copy of the Daily Mail shoved down their throats? Are you really so addicted to empty, blustering rhetoric?? -- stevie (looselippedstevi...), June 11th, 2004. (stevie) (later)
Hunt him down and tar him and feather him like the scurvy peasant he is, I'll have his head hanging on a pole above my moat as a lesson to the rest of ye!
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris (chris), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Trucker Hats C/D?
How ironic is your hair? Very/Kinda/Not at all
What is the most unacceptable thing to come out of your anus? Horrible poo/Pins/28ft Yacht
The enneagram can then slot people into different Ilxor categories including Arndale Arsonist, Bridge & Tunneler, Asshat etc.
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Ironic haircuts deserve a "search and destroy" thread. It's no fun just mentioning them like this, they need to be attacked with extreme prejudice.
― Pingu, Friday, 11 June 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:44 (nineteen years ago) link
OTM -- I usually end up seeming anti-hipsterish and midtown, but not because of any active hatred but because teh hipsterz quite often bring out their own anti-B&T material first -- and I react against that. You can't map class on to *this* discussion since the B&T are just as middle-class as the ironic-haircuts brigade. Shit, they may even *have* ironic hair. Both breeds are slightly chimerical, as I think we all realize.
― Henry K M (Enrique), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Possibly Kate Again (kate), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― chris (chris), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Any bloke who hasn't done this and enjoyed it at least once is either lying, or a goth.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link
OTFM!!!! Very much so. I tried to get 'edgy' dance website burnitblue to let me write about this when I reviewed for em back in the day, but no dice. Now they've gone right down the shitter. QED.
MattDC -- I've only gone proper clubbing about three times. All the rest played 'Come On Eileen' -- and I've never met Tom Ewing.
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link
This did happen. Except they asked me if it was "up North". I'm serious. This was in Highgate.
― dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
I had no idea! I mean, I figured it was a home county but I think it overlapped in my brain with hereford somehow, I wasn't really sure.
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ricardo (RickyT), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevem (blueski), Friday, 11 June 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link