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would've loved to see the original Dream Syndicate. The live stuff I've got by them is sweet -- super loose, but always fun.

tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 21:48 (fourteen years ago) link

That slicingupeyeballs link doesn't work. I'm withholding sweaty fanboy hugs until the reissue is verified.

I have vivid memories of playing cuts from their first two albums during my first-ever college radio show. They worked perfectly in my nite-owl 2-4 a.m. slot, the studio lit with a blacklight.

Those looking for more, I didn't see Eleventh Dream Day's Prairie School Freakout (1988) mentioned. Dream Syndicate is just one of many elements (Gun Club, X, Neil Young), but it's there.

Okay, here it is -

The concerts, on May 14 and 15, will feature Wynn and his current band — Jason Victor, Dave DeCastro and Linda Pitmon — performing Medicine Show front-to-back on the first night and 1982’s The Days of Wine and Roses on the second, with “both sets fortified with many extra songs both old and brand new.”

*hugz*

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

It would be tempting to roadtrip to Atlanta for that except I'm planning to go see Torche in Chicago.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link

wynn's band these days is killer -- his solo stuff is hit and miss, but he always delivers live.

tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 22:44 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

hey guys i just put together this live companion to days of wine & roses if anyone is interested. it is pretty pretty good. http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/26425201595/the-dream-syndicate-the-days-of-wine-and-roses

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

oh tyler, once again filling our needs before we realize it!

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link

did you ever see 'em back then? listening this week, seems like they were almost *too* loose. a couple of the shows are just total messes.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link

I did, and yup they were a mess sometimes -- but Karl's noise guitar was usually not as much of a hindrance for me as Steve's singing.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

ha yeah, he sometimes sounds like he's just hollering over the din. but i think i got some of the better performances. they could kick a lot of ass, too!

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 19:47 (eleven years ago) link

Sometimes Duck's drumming was just a monotonous, super-simple snare hit, too, seemingly the anchor in the maelstrom. But yeah, I'm a fan! The intro to "John Coltrane" gives me chills the same way "Marquee Moon" does. When they were great (more in studio than live for me) they were really great.

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

xp yep, i agree! the version of 'That's What You Always Say' on there is fantastic. Dennis Duck = elegant linchpin as always. and i love Kendra. One time when Pell Mell played at the Anti-Club in LA Kendra came in and sat right down in front. sadly, she then got up and walked out about 1/4 of the way through our set. humiliating!

nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

ha! oh well. seeing kendra in public at all is probably akin to seeing a rare species of bird or something.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

There's a lot of their live stuff up at Archive.org. I love that early stuff from 82-3.
the lp Day Before wine & Roses is also very worth checking out. Recorded I think about 3 weeks before the studio lp for a local radio station.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link

Oh & the lp by Kendra Smith is pretty nice, not sure if its remotely available though.
Her on an Indian pump organ thing like Nico used to play.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i got all of those live performances from archive.org -- gotta be a pretty complete collection of dream syndicate tapes.
kendra definitely needs some kind of box set thing. does anyone have her phone #.

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 20:48 (eleven years ago) link

haha, given her last address was a cabin with no electricity...

Mafia-owned bar for transvestites (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link

pony express stop then

contenderizer, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link

Hurm. Heard a rumor that Wynn was planning on touring DAYS OF WINE AND ROSES again. Don't know if even Dunn was joining him this time around or not.

I should slot that recent live set that Tyler posted. One can never have too much early DS.

Also potentially of interest: http://highway62.tumblr.com/post/26083888051/last-days-of-may-eponymous-debut-album-released

Which is Karl Precoda interviewed by yrs truly in 1997 after the release of the first Last Days of May record on No-Fi records, a heavily truncated version of which was printed in PTOLEMAIC TERRASCOPE. So heavily truncated, in fact, as to bear little resemblance to the original behemoth.

Last I heard, Kendra Smith was off the grid in northern California. That was not long before she performed at Terrastock 2 in 1997 or 1998. If someone tracks her down, I'll drive out to talk to her about issuing an omnibus. The GUILD OF TEMPORAL ADVENTURERS disc is pretty essential, much more so than FIVE WAYS OF DISAPPEARING (the 4AD LP).

Guy Khyser still lives in Davis and last I'd heard, he was performing in a bluegrass band (with Roger Kunkel, also of TWR) after folding the Mummy Dogs. Not sure if that's still happening or not.

Matt M., Wednesday, 4 July 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

The upcoming _DoW&R_ tour (tourlet?) is Wynn, Jason Victor, Mark Walton, and Dennis Duck.

Will check out Tyler's set also, thanks for posting.

Jeff Wright, Thursday, 5 July 2012 04:08 (eleven years ago) link

Duck for Dunn. Hilarious.

And hello, Jeff. Long time no see.

Matt M., Thursday, 5 July 2012 07:19 (eleven years ago) link

eight months pass...

European tour announced (plus that 1 US date) with this lineup:

The band’s current lineup features singer/guitarist Wynn and drummer Dennis Duck, the two members who spanned the group’s entire seven-year career as well as bassist Mark Walton, who was in the band for its final two records and nearly all of their US and world tours. Guitarist Jason Victor who has played with Wynn in the Miracle 3 since 2001 will round out the 21st Century lineup.

THE DREAM SYNDICATE - TOUR SCHEDULE:
MAY 23 HET DEPOT / LEUVEN, BELGIUM
MAY 24 DINGWALL’S / LONDON, ENGLAND
MAY 25 ROCKEFELLER’S / OSLO, NORWAY
MAY 26 STADTGARDEN / COLOGNE, GERMANY
MAY 28 BEACHES BREW FEST / RAVENNA, ITALY
MAY 29 BLOOM / MEZZAGO (MILAN), ITALY
MAY 30 MYLOS / THESSALONIKI, GREECE
MAY 31 STAGE / LARISSA, GREECE
JUNE 1 GAGARIN / ATHENS, GREECE
JUNE 22 SOLID SOUND FESTIVAL / NORTH ADAMS, MA

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:28 (eleven years ago) link

Oops, that's the same lineup as Jeff W posted last July 2012

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Been interviewing people from all the main PU groups for a piece pegged to this. During the course of which I discovered that my daughter and Sid Griffin's daughter are science partners at school.

Trans-Europe Stopping Train (ithappens), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:34 (eleven years ago) link

amazing! sid has always seemed like a grand fellow when i've seen him play

acid in the style of tenpole tudor (NickB), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

i'd go see this if it was anywhere near me. even though jason victor wasn't in the band, he's been a pretty awesome guitarist when I've seen him with wynn.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:48 (eleven years ago) link

I am seriously contemplating going to this. Feel a bit sad sometimes that I go to so many damn reunion gigs though.

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:56 (eleven years ago) link

I've heard such great things about Wynn live lately that I wonder why they even bothered calling this a Dream Syndicate reunion.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

tbf they are playing the first album in full

Just noise and screaming and no musical value at all. (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

All the more reason, if they don't have the line-up from the first album. I mean, 3/4 of the VU is still alive, but if Cale and Reed did it without Mo, it wouldn't be the VU. Or if Mo and Reed did it without Cale, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, it's probably just that "Steve Wynn Plays The Music of Dream Syndicate (featuring members of Dream Syndicate)" wasn't setting promoters on fire.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

More like, Steve Wynn owns the name "Dream Syndicate" and can do what he wants, and Kendra et al. don't care.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure kendra is writing a strongly worded letter to the media on papyrus leaves as we speak.

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link

no. no. no. if ever an album was mind-blowing, it's this one.

― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 07:09

what she said

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure kendra is writing a strongly worded letter to the media on papyrus leaves as we speak.

And I'm sure Mr. Precoda is frantically searching his apartment for his one-hitter.

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

And I'm sure Mr. Precoda is frantically searching his apartment for his one-hitter.

Don't be so sure about that: http://www.theatrecinema.vt.edu/About/People/_bios/bio_KarlPrecoda.html

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

I saw that, well done, Karl. But, it's still very possible.

kwhitehead, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

I've got the expanded debut, Medicine Show and the "Tell Me When It's Over" best-of, all of which I think are great. How does "Out Of The Grey" and "Ghost Stories" compare? Are the best bits on the comp? Lastly, is "Live At Rajis" as good as its rep?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 9 August 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

LIVE AT RAJI'S is a solid set from that era of DS. But it's not the early DS freakouts. Pretty tight, no slack in sight. Worth buying if you like that period.

Man, I haven't listened to OUT OF THE GREY in likely decades, but I still love "Boston" for Culver's guitar.

Matt M., Friday, 9 August 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

Out of the Grey is worth having, but I never warmed up to Ghost Stories.

Question: If one has the single-disk Raji's is the expanded set worth getting?

And finally, there is a live set called Live from Studio Z (Sep, 1982) that's excellent. I thought it was on CD at one point, but I only see Wolfgang's Vault now ($5 download, definately worth it).

DS live at Studio Z

nickn, Friday, 9 August 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

It is on CD, called The Day Before Wine And Roses, on Atavistic. And it's in my living room.

nickn, Saturday, 10 August 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link

There's some great live recordings up on archive.org too:
http://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.lateshow
http://archive.org/details/ds1983-02-10.earlyshow
http://archive.org/details/ds1982-03-26.flac16

(there's more, just dig around)

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 10 August 2013 09:45 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

DS doing the Ghostbusters theme.

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/sevens_cover_versions_of_ghostbusters_from_the_dream_syndicates_1984_tour

nickn, Sunday, 19 October 2014 06:29 (nine years ago) link

four weeks pass...

The show last night was quite good. High energy and nice full room. Added bonus, they played only songs from the 1st two records. (And a cover.)

kwhitehead, Sunday, 16 November 2014 18:17 (nine years ago) link

seven months pass...

as much as i hate to admit it, the bonus stuff on the new Days of Wine & Roses reissue makes it worth getting... of course, you'll have to hold on to the old reissue too!
really think the original lineup would be nicely served by a box set, w/ the album proper plus live stuff, singles, rehearsals, etc...

tylerw, Thursday, 18 June 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link

Sounds good, why don't you get on that Tyler!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 19 June 2015 01:34 (eight years ago) link

What's on the bonus disc? Saw the reissue today but assumed it was live tracks or something else I don't need.

Speaking of live tracks, how was that The Day After The Days Of Wine and Roses or whatever the live CD was called that was released last year?

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 June 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link

Day Before is lovely, several long guitar workouts.
Shame the new Days of doesn't have the e.p. anymore. At least I do have the very old separate cd of that I think, though don't remember the last time I saw it.

Stevolende, Friday, 19 June 2015 07:55 (eight years ago) link

here's the hype on the bonus stuff

Calling on the band’s long time archivist Pat Thomas (previously producer of reissues of four other titles from the Dream Syndicate), the previous “bonus tracks” from the 2001 Rhino CD have been replaced with a slew of never-before-heard songs and/or recordings that capture the first year of the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory. These are rehearsal tapes that capture a pair of songs that later turned up on the Medicine Show. Longtime fans have often wondered what it would have sounded like had Kendra Smith stayed in the band for its second full-length album. Now the band’s followers will know: these versions don’t possess the ’70s FM rock sound that Medicine Show had. Instead, they sound like Television’s Marque Moon LP. The four other bonus tracks included in this new version are four original, vintage Dream Syndicate songs that nobody outside the band has ever heard, including a nearly 10-minute Kraut-rock-inspired jam!

might be a bit hyperbolic there, haha, but i can't get enough of this lineup of the band.

tylerw, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

dammit they are pushing my Kendra Smith buttons, bastards

sleeve, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:25 (eight years ago) link

the classic lineup of Wynn/Precoda/Smith/Duck in all their low-fi glory

Yes!

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 June 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link


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