xp otm--i think recognizing how incredible cohen's lyrics are was a major turning point for me and silkworm
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
rocking "empty elevator shaft" right now, a favorite & the one I would cover if I could find that passing chord in the second half of the verse
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, March 4, 2010 12:09 AM (15 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
j0hn...
i was thinking of this last night and if i may humbly suggest...maybe you could try "Roots" off lifestyle...i could kinda hear that in your steez.
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:26 (fourteen years ago) link
so many killer choruses too
"Was it YOU-OOOOO-OOOoooOOooOOoO-OOOO? You were WOOOOORLD PROOF!"
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link
you guys ever see the video of them doing LR72 with no drummer after dahlquist was killed? chilling, really sad.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:30 (fourteen years ago) link
OMG yes! Particularly my favoritest lyrical bit on the whole album:
There's a Puerto Rican in this bar, she's thinking about San JuanIf I could, you know, I'd wave a wand and send her homeBut first, you know, I'd send myself back where the river flowsBut I can't even see that road, "When" is a secret, and that means nobody knows
For as awesome as the drumming and guitar work is, sometimes it seems people forget just how funny, clever, and genuinely affecting their lyrics could be.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't andy cohen a lawyer now or something? am i crazy?
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:35 (fourteen years ago) link
yes he is
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link
i think he was a lawyer for a lot of the time skwm was a band?
that was my impression
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:37 (fourteen years ago) link
he would lawyer onstage between songs iirc
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:38 (fourteen years ago) link
jewish lawyers in rock
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
when i saw these dudes open for Bikini Kill, he wore a big gold Star of David on his chest--the show was a Friday night, as i recall
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.jrp-graphics.com/jb/covers/LawyersInLove.jpg
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:44 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm really trying to put a finger on why I love Silkworm so much, and the nearest I can get is this:
I really grew up on my Dad's records...the Stones, CCR, Neil Young, etc. There's a certain part of me that – although I have grown to love all sorts of music - weird post punk, hip hop, electronic stuff, noisier rock, punk, metal, world music, jazz, etc etc - there's a certain part of me, way down in the lizard brain, that loves classic rock in a way that that stuff can never touch..
just thinking of stuff like "Everybody Knows This is Nowhere" or "Lodi" by CCR or "Rocks Off" by the Stones...like music that basically gives you that "Four beers deep" feeling J0hn mentioned upthread, where you feel a something in your chest and you just want to rip your heart out cuz it's so anthemic and real and makes life seem so awesome and rocking
But at the same time, you can't just be stuck in those songs because there aren't any more of them being made, and any band that tries to be *actual* classic rock is going to fail. Those days are gone and it just seems fake and it won't even sound like those records sound.
So I guess for me Silkworm was a band that gave me those feelings of real "bro" classic rock, but at the same time they acknowledged and used influences from all the other stuff that changed how i viewed rock music - fugazi and mission of burma and sonic youth and the minutemen and gang of four etc – they were a part of that world two, the whole lineage of the "this band could be your life" era
they were able to combine the strange angles and skronk and sorta impenetrable lyrics and sometimes odd sounding chord changes and rhythmic hiccups in a way that still felt as anthemic and huge and heartfelt and full of everything as all the old music did.....but they weren't pretending to be like "hey we're a throwback to the old days" either like kings of leon or dudes that have a whole "let's bring OLD TIME ROCK BACK" jive.
basically they were exactly what i need out of rock, or at least a big part of it.
also a lot of the stuff i just posted might not make total sense when you read it, but i makes sense when i feel it.
(this also figures into why i think Lifter Puller was a great band and Hold Steady is only a good band)
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
great post
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:23 (fourteen years ago) link
I was about to ask where Lifter Puller/Hold Steady fit into this! That's a really nice summary of a personal aesthetic, M@tt.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, nice post M@tt. Funny, though -- there are a *lot* of bands who try to invoke that classic rock feeling and fail miserably. Like, uh, any band I've been in. It's a weird fine line to tread, and Silkworm do a great job of it. I don't really like the Hold Steady at all, but it seems like I should.
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
Great post M@tt. Thanks for sharing that.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
listening to Lifestyle rn
― dmr, Thursday, 4 March 2010 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
re: bottomless pit. a different (but not totally different) animal, and man, I love love love it.
I got deep into that congress ep last year as well. "red pen" is epic.
― original bgm, Thursday, 4 March 2010 18:40 (fourteen years ago) link
listening to bottomless pit hammer of the god atm
"dogtag" is such a brilliant, oblique and not cheesy tribute to a fallen friend.
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 4 March 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
interesting thing abt bottomless pit to me is that cohen seems to be doing his thing, as ever, while tim midgett is really kinda pushing the sound forward with the four-piece lineup.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
i've really needed silkworm this week, it's been a helluva week.
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 5 March 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
how do you guys feel about the crust brothers record?
― mizzell, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
actually never owned that that but always meant to, is it good? i heard it a bit a looong time ago but don't remember
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Friday, 5 March 2010 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link
it's just the live thing right? i love their version of
GOIN TO ACAPULLLLCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
― Mr. Que, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it's just a live show. has a pretty good vibe, they're just having fun cruising through these songs. wish there was a bit more variety (as opposed to mostly basement tapes tunes) cause i really love the version of tuesdays gone.
― mizzell, Friday, 5 March 2010 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link
And all men knew itThen God came to take you.So I said to myselfI would bring that glass of beer.Thus we used to doFor everyone to see.So I brought along this beer to give you, to drink.
― iiiijjjj, Friday, 5 March 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
that dude needs to finish that documentary!
― iiiijjjj, Friday, 5 March 2010 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
the lyrics for LR72 are pretty remarkable
― dmr, Saturday, 6 March 2010 23:31 (fourteen years ago) link
love that song. such a weird song in a way but it really gets me
― dmr, Saturday, 6 March 2010 23:32 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEW3hsNVF9M
― iiiijjjj, Sunday, 7 March 2010 04:04 (fourteen years ago) link
Joel R.L. Phelps mini-collection posted over here (they're all out of print and all pretty great)
Bummed I missed the thread revival!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link
wow, thanks, on it.
bottomless pit playing at schuba's in chicago on april 19th, opening for monotonix, which seems like an unlikely pairing but whatever. thinking about making it down for this, if any chicago people wanna meet up for a minifap.
― iiiijjjj, Thursday, 11 March 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link
the great indie mag Puncture published a Joel R.L. Phelps profile back in the day that I remember being really heartbreaking. All about him working with disabled kids or something and then playing shows at night and no one really paying much attention.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.joelrlphelps.com/
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link
huge fan of phelps's solo work
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 11 March 2010 01:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Weird, I was just thinking about Silkworm today! I have no idea why exactly. I never owned a record by them but saw them play in Providence once and they completely blew me away.
― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 11 March 2010 01:52 (fourteen years ago) link
start at the beginning, in the west.
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 11 March 2010 01:55 (fourteen years ago) link
oh, i love yr display name!
― jed_, Thursday, 11 March 2010 02:02 (fourteen years ago) link
i love you, jed_
― shite new answers (cutty), Thursday, 11 March 2010 02:15 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks x o
― jed_, Thursday, 11 March 2010 12:08 (fourteen years ago) link
I think Italian Platinum is very underrated and so is Blueblood.
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 March 2010 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
cohen's solo on "The Third" off Italian Platinum is WOW
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 March 2010 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I was so excited when Italian Platinum came out, it was my favorite album they'd done since Firewater. "I Hope U Don't Survive" is right up there with "Treat the New Guy Right" as catchy Silkworm rock-out anthems.
Will anyone rep for Don't Look Back? I was pretty disappointed with it, especially after the resurgence of Italian Platinum. I've tried to go back to it a couple of times but just can't get that excited about it.
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
do you mean it'll be cool? i fuckin love that album.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link
oh yeah duh
― congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 11 March 2010 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah i never actually bought It'll Be Cool but this thread makes me want to, heard it a few times at a friend's house.
the Chokes EP is another sorta lost SKWM joint
― Deuce Bigalow: Male Juggalo (M@tt He1ges0n), Thursday, 11 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Are You Dignified? is the bomb
oh man chokes is great too
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 March 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link