"I don't think Swearengen was diabolical, except for two-thirds the time." Good answer.
― Jouster, Thursday, 4 March 2010 08:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i have really been liking dustin hoffman lately. if anyone hasn't seen STRAIGHT TIME, do so now.
― by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 4 March 2010 09:02 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ funnily enough, michael mann helped write it
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Thursday, 4 March 2010 09:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I read a copy of the pilot not that long ago. Funny crazy-wisdom stuff about "the degenerates" -- compulsive gamblers (one on a Rascal scooter) made me laugh out loud, but a little bit of the JFC poetic-jargony-quirkiness made it a difficult read. Also, the racetrack lingo seemed to lack both the hard-bittenness of Milch's cop shows, and the zonked-out beach mysticism of JFC and, honestly, felt a little bit like latter-day-Mamet. That said, I will definitely watch this.
― Remington Q. (remy bean), Thursday, 4 March 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Great to hear about the script, remy.
Maybe Nolte too.
― can it compete with the wagon wheel (Eazy), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/nick-nolte-mug-shot.jpg"Green Flash is a lock in the 7th, his mudder was a mudder"
― dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link
haha shit.
http://www.tvgasm.com/newsgasm/nick-nolte-mug-shot.jpg
― dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
i look forward to this series ending unresolved after one season, leaving everyone frustrated and angry.
― akm, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:11 (fourteen years ago) link
apparently d-hoff is super-famous for being a hard-on about script-approval so im kind of amazed he's agreed to do serial television
― the archetypal ghetto hustler (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
commenters from blog that posted the Nolte news
Amazing Grouping. Will be interesting to seehow quickly it implodes after Milch and Mannstart the wrestling match for control.Both are micro managers and used to theirown way on projects!Can’t wait for the fireworks.#
Good luck getting episode 3 in the can with this group !!! Could be one of those projects that looks great on paper, which it does, but is impossible to produce because of the personalities involved. Hoffman, Nolte & Mann stories are legendary. WIll be interested to see how they work together on a television schedule, even if it is an HBO television schedule (12-14 days per episode).#
― dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
I wonder how accurately they will portray some of the degenerate horse racing gambler types. The ones I see at the track who bring their entire family while they sit there and bet on every single race.
― mayor jingleberries, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 18:38 (fourteen years ago) link
what's wrong with a guy bringing his family to the track. are they bored? is he betting the rent money? kinda painting with a broad brush there.
― dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^^ capn. save-a-gambler
― dmr, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link
I bet on every race when I go to the track. That's kind of the point, innit?
Jockey underworld will be more interesting than stock degenerate gamblers. Dudes puking and popping laxatives to stay light.
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah milch and mann are super-notorious control freaks.
watch the bonus features on the deadwood box set. the poor credited directors have to kind of sit back and smile warily at the camera while milch jumps in and gives the actors direction.
that said, i got the feeling that the deadwood features were all about elevating milch to some kind of television godhead, so it may be that they choose to include the footage that made it look as though he was the central or even sole creative force. which is belied by the fact that some episodes of that show were pallid, while others (notably the pilot directed by walter hill) were really great.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link
i should add: pallid and great in a way that suggested the hands of a director at work.
who's gonna win this rachel alexander v zenyatta race
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:02 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
Rachel has a license to improve from age 3 to 4 so if she is better than last year I don't see her losing
― dmr, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 11:37 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark
haha well .... Rachel just lost to a horse not even as good as Zenyatta in what was supposed to be Rachel's easy comeback race so don't listen to me, obv.
Rachel vs. Zen probably won't happen now, at least not on April 9. (Zenyatta won again today and looked good)
sorry to hijack Milch thread with real life horse racing news, back to our regularly scheduled programming ...
― dmr, Sunday, 14 March 2010 00:08 (fourteen years ago) link
David Milch reading with Q&A:
http://media.sas.upenn.edu/writershouse/10A/Milch-David_Fellows-Reading_KWH-UPenn_04-26-2010.mp3
― caek, Saturday, 8 May 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
full season done been ordered
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 20:52 (thirteen years ago) link
ehh tv directors know what the score is
― coldfrap - foam mountain (s1ocki), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:05 (thirteen years ago) link
like to see him give directions on michael mann's set
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:07 (thirteen years ago) link
when does the pilot/full season air?
― caek, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
love the scenes of milch on pillows, dictating the script in front of an audience on those bonus features. all that's missing is a grape-feeder.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:11 (thirteen years ago) link
next year
like, the 'boardwalk empire' pilot was done about this time last year. kind of chill that hbo film a whole season before airing it -- i guess you can keep the whole thing more consistent than on deadline-chasing network tv?
wonder when the bigelow series is coming. hbo must have deep pockets.
xpost
― I’ll put you in a f *ckin Weingarten you c*nt! (history mayne), Wednesday, 14 July 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
john from Cincinnati kinda soured me
― i'm gonna need a +1 so me & a friend can kick you in the balls (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 15 July 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-1010-michael-mann-20101010,0,6409892,full.story
― caek, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:09 (thirteen years ago) link
this gonna be as shitty as boardwalk empire or
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:48 (thirteen years ago) link
hope not ;_;
― caek, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:52 (thirteen years ago) link
me too, maybe this is the that'll stick
hbo needs it tbf
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:53 (thirteen years ago) link
what was the last good hbo series? curb?
― caek, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link
"The 'Miami Vice' director's return to the small screen is part of a migration of top talent."
You're going to go w/ "Miami Vice" out of Michael Mann's repertoire, LA Times?
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:57 (thirteen years ago) link
well, miami vice was the last time he did tv so.......
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:59 (thirteen years ago) link
― caek, Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:55 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
eastbound!
do people still watch treme? i liked it at first but had like a physical aversion to watching it. same with boardwalk empire. it just feels exhausting.
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
See is it bad that I thought of the move and not the TV show? xp
― JIMMY MOD THE SACK MASTER (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:00 (thirteen years ago) link
treme was dreadful. i'm going to give boardwalk maybe a couple more episodes. the most recent one was the least bad so far but still hard work.
when was the last good hbo drama? feel like the answer is oz tbh.
― caek, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:07 (thirteen years ago) link
are you joking?
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
sopranos? wire? 6 ft under?
lol forgot the wire
― caek, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
in my defence, that was nearly 100 blog years ago
― caek, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:30 (thirteen years ago) link
oz was before blogs even existed!
― cathy: ACK-er (s1ocki), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:35 (thirteen years ago) link
slock, check your gmail
― once a remy bean always a (remy bean), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:40 (thirteen years ago) link
treme is great, y'all are high
― Brick Frog! (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:51 (thirteen years ago) link
The 2006 film "Miami Vice," a remake of the television show with very little evidence of that heritage, was seen as a creative misstep, and it grossed a lukewarm $164 million worldwide (its production budget was $135 million).
guess the LA Times doesn't read the blogosphere.
Also ya'll are crazy. Treme was great, Deadwood is the best show ever made, Rome was solid fun, In Treatment has been very good, and Boardwalk Empire is just now finding it's legs.
― No Good, Scrunty-Looking, Narf Herder (Gukbe), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 15:17 (thirteen years ago) link
rome was awesome
― guanciale diary (s1ocki), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:37 (thirteen years ago) link
what was the last good hbo drama? feels like the answer is arli$$
― ok we are pals (Eazy), Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:42 (thirteen years ago) link
BTW, in that UPenn link up above, Milch reads the pilot script for Luck (reads all the parts and the directions and everything) and it's good.
They just put up a Q&A with Milch at the LA Times:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2010/10/david-milch-hopes-for-visceral-experience-with-hbos-luck.html
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 October 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/f71b5774-dd62-11df-beb7-00144feabdc0.html
next movie projects are battle of agincourt and 50s chicago gangsters
― caek, Monday, 25 October 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link
Another Michael Mann interview
― Ballard, Dick (Eazy), Monday, 25 October 2010 23:04 (thirteen years ago) link
Interesting. I like listening to these guys talk.
I could have sworn way back when that Deadwood was not cancelled, per se, but that Milch walked away. But recently it's been increasingly coming up as cancelled. What went down, exactly?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
http://blog.jopinionated.com/2007/08/22/exclusive-deadwoodjohn-from-cincinnati-actor-jim-beaver-responds.aspx
― polyphonic, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:02 (twelve years ago) link
hbo canceled it, then reacted to the fan/media backlash by offering milch two two hour episodes to wrap things up but at that point the actors had been released from their contracts milch was working on john from cincinnati wkrp and it never happened
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
iirc
ive said this before but i think all he does now are 'interesting failures' -
Mentioned upthread re Mann, but hard to see Milch doing anything but as well, unless he makes his Moby Dick.
― "Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
hbo cancelling deadwood was just incredibly stupid on their part.
― akm, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:48 (twelve years ago) link
it was a tragic is what it was!
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link
booo! booing u hbo, damn
But wasn't the show sort of backed in a corner by the fact that, you know, it was based on actual people and their fates? Can't keep Hearst the local heavy when he becomes a senator. Though I guess they could have tried.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 March 2012 00:59 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think that had any effect on anything. They weren't trying to keep the show on the air forever, just finish telling their story. HBO cut them off one season short.
― polyphonic, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:06 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.vulture.com/2012/03/michael-mann-david-milch-interview-luck-horses-cancellation.html?mid=twitter_vulture
― "Flashy...hip" (Eazy), Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
there was gonna be a flood and a fire!
― lag∞n, Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
Hearst left at the end of Season 3, though he sort of won. Season 4 would have dealt with the fallout of the elections. xposts
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 22 March 2012 01:45 (twelve years ago) link
Sepinwall interviews Milch about the finale.
I didn't realise that Milch new the end of Deadwood was...the end. I thought that scene at the end was too perfect.
Thought Luck really found its way towards the end there. Also thought the last two eps got the Mann-style really well. I will miss it.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 26 March 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
That episode was amazing.
― polyphonic, Monday, 26 March 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. Bittersweet. I really liked this show a lot.
Up there I meant "knew" and not "new.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Monday, 26 March 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
god that last episode was great-- so sad its over
"whats the story with us?""i suspect in the long run, we all go broke"
i want to see a "making of" that explains how the fuck they shot the racing scenes
― ♆ (gr8080), Sunday, 8 April 2012 08:09 (twelve years ago) link
HBO's cancellation of the beleagured horseracing drama "Luck" cost the network $35 million, according to an earnings report released by Time Warner Wednesday.
Time Warner, which owns the premium cable provider, said it suffered the "impairment" because of the series' cancellation in its first season following the death of three horses.
The show had already started production on its second season, and most of the costs were attached to shutting down production during that unaired season, resulting in the $35 million writedown, HBO said.
― buzza, Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:17 (eleven years ago) link
so that's how much a horse costs
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Thursday, 3 May 2012 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
they can make it back, go hard on the derby this wkend
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 3 May 2012 11:15 (eleven years ago) link
Not sure if this is upthread, but a very sobering piece about the horse racing industry:
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/04/30/us/breakdown-horses-series.html
― polyphonic, Friday, 11 May 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.followhorseracing.com/en/the-latest/blogs/2013/02/17/out-of-luck-episode-1-buy-low-sell-high/
― caek, Thursday, 21 February 2013 13:48 (eleven years ago) link
holy cow that horse run very good.
― ⚓ (gr8080), Monday, January 9, 2012 6:37 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― caek, Thursday, 21 February 2013 13:51 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/david-milch-made-100m-gambled-866184
― salthigh, Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link
Damn, he looks pretty good for 70.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 17 February 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link