any chance we can get a .wav of that? mp3s of rainbow poops are so lossy...
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:13 (fourteen years ago) link
eh, i'm an artist, deal with it
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_AKLvmi_1wZs/ScFRqncTyfI/AAAAAAAAAJo/yuSwfSvGytA/s400/album-return-to-pooh-corner.jpg+%28JPEG+Image,+500x500+pixels%29.jpg http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Job/21274.x-news-newsomeYscover.jpg
Heads up guys, this Kenny chick is being touted as the new Joanna
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
he's alright, i wouldn't worry about him
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
MUSIC INTO NOISE: THE DESTRUCTIVE USE OF DYNAMIC RAINBOW COMPRESSION
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
anxiously awaiting the joanna newsom/die antwoord mashup.
― Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
I love you
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
someday we'll find itthe rainbow compressionthe lovers, the dreamers, and me
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost that's a question, actually - it used to be that double albums scanned as two albums, so that if you sold 10,000 copies of your double, it'd scan as 20,000 sales -- is that still the case, does anyone know?
I actually looked this up the other day b/c I was wondering about Newsom's potential sales. And this is not actually the case, if it ever was. The RIAA does count each disc as a discrete unit, so HOOM would only need to sell 166,667 copies to go gold. But in terms of Soundscan reporting, single-disc albums, triple albums, and box sets are all counted as one unit.
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, I think I've kind of figured out why I'm not feeling HOOM as much as Ys. From a 2007 interview:
I don’t fuck around nearly as much as I used to with the idea of polymeters (the old “playing-a-part-with-my-left-hand-that’s-in-5/4-and-playing-a-part-with-my-right-hand-that’s-in-3/4” routine). There’s a bit toward the end of “Only Skin” on my last album that could be viewed, if you were the sentimental type, as the death-knell of that whole meter question. In my brain. It has sort of stopped being fascinating to me and started feeling wanky. Like, proggy. I have resisted going down that road for years now, the prog-road, and I started to realize that was the only place I could go with the meter question unless I just kind of laid it to rest.
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:35 (fourteen years ago) link
releasing a triple record chock full of long songs is a strange move for someone scared of going down the prog road
― he often deploys multiple browsers and constantly replies to himself (velko), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link
the prog-road - I so wish she'd go there.
At least I now know what Good Intentions Paving Company is about.
― Moodles, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link
Don't forget: HOOM is her down-to-earth, back-to-basics album...
― Moodles, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Return to Poo Corner:Just back to drop a Loggins
― Moodles, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Joanna Newsom just made me like her a little less
― queen of the rapping scene (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:24 (fourteen years ago) link
It's like when Mike Kinsella decided to abandon complex time signatures. I liked American Football a lot, but Owen never did much for me.
― dylan's craggy larynx (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link
for something as hyped as HOOM, 7000 copies in one week doesn't sound like much...
― Deluxe Merseybeat Wig (Jack Battery-Pack), Wednesday, March 3, 2010 2:59 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
yeesh, i know. the record industry is really in the gutter huh? 7,000 albums would have been a laugh just 10 years ago.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean in the late 1990s, when i worked there, smithsonian folkways would complain that vol. 12 of their "music of indonesia" series only sold 3,000 copies.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:46 (fourteen years ago) link
how do record labels make _any_ money. i have to imagine that the promotional budget (plus overhead like packaging, distribution) for this album dwarfs whatever they made selling 7,000 or even 21,000 copies.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:47 (fourteen years ago) link
i really don't think Drag City would have be TOO bummed out by moving 7000K units of a TRIPLE album by some crazy ass Ren Faire chick
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:54 (fourteen years ago) link
10 years ago
when will Drag City sign a unicorn is my question
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:56 (fourteen years ago) link
"I'm half unicorn on my mother's side"
http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/blog/Sarah/oldham2.jpg
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 22:58 (fourteen years ago) link
lolllllllll
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:06 (fourteen years ago) link
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2511001117_6f8a94e081.jpg
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link
^^^dude has a two song triple album coming out on southern lord i heard
waiting for the vinyl
― om nom nom nom de plume (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah dude! Clear vinyl splattered with unicorn blood, limited to 666 copies. Only $350!
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Woah, it's a Doomicorn
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:15 (fourteen years ago) link
gonna be a concept album about unicorns i believe
― tylerw, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
The RIAA does count each disc as a discrete unit, so HOOM would only need to sell 166,667 copies to go gold. But in terms of Soundscan reporting, single-disc albums, triple albums, and box sets are all counted as one unit.
right - I was confusing RIAA & Soundscan - thanks
how do record labels make _any_ money.
they don't. practically all of them who are left including the big ones are now officially doing it 1) for the love and 2) because it's all they know how to do. the money aspect is gone. whether this is a favorable development or no, we will know conclusively in about 20 years by my out-of-thin-air estimate.
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Rainb 0)))
― We should have called Suzie and Bobby (NickB), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:17 (fourteen years ago) link
starting to believe that new joanna newsom album just part of a big conceptual coup whose centerpiece is this thread
j0hn: so i guess drag city makes enough for their employees to eat and that's about it?
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link
That really bums me out. I mean, shit, I keep buying physical CDs and vinyl hoping that I'm doing my tiny, little part to help support labels like this and it sucks to realize it isn't helping at all.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes i think the only people making money in indie rock are Pitchfork and The Fader
― Tonytta! Tonitta! Tonétta! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
and carles
― max, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link
faders only making money b/c it is technically a "marketing company"
― max, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:20 (fourteen years ago) link
uh, exactly
― Tonytta! Tonitta! Tonétta! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't know drag city's individual situation but afaik that's about the extent of things industry-wide. I try not to make a lot of noise about it in public places for various reasons but the people who work at the record labels work 12+ hour days for ok pay and are awesome people generally speaking and it's sad that the market has told them "you don't really count as far as we-all are concerned"
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
McDonalds is only making money because they're technically a "fast food restaurant"
― max, Wednesday, March 3, 2010 6:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
― Tonytta! Tonitta! Tonétta! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:22 (fourteen years ago) link
i am a marketing company
― max, Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
that said, I am pretty certain drag city is stoke with a 7000 opening week - that's strong for an indie, and stronger still for a multi-disc indie record
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link
lol & hipsterpuppies amirite??
<3
yeah, when you have a popular meme, Google sends you a check like ASCAP
― Tonytta! Tonitta! Tonétta! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:26 (fourteen years ago) link
loooooool
― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
i wonder how many people illegally DL'd this album and are listening to it regularly (and how this compares w/ 7,000 who purchased it).
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:28 (fourteen years ago) link
10,000? 20,000? 6,000,000?
what is money
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 3 March 2010 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
what the fuck can a unicorn spend a dollar on