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but i dunno, what the hell is wrong with being all into yourself? most of the greats are basically self-absorbed/egotistical, right? It's a requirement.

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

totally, i agree. my question is, why do innocent unicorns have to die for JN's bloodlust?

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

tears, not blood iirc

T-R-A-P-S-T-R (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

joanna newsom : unicorn tears :: mr que : ksh tears

T-R-A-P-S-T-R (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Was there an unpleasant incident in September?

I read something about myself and it made me so sad.

nice work, ilx

he often deploys multiple browsers and constantly replies to himself (velko), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:44 (fourteen years ago) link

joanna newsom : unicorn tears :: mr que : ksh tears

The Tears of A Sock is my favorite Smokey Robinson song

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think you are misinterpreting people being annoyed with slavish fandom as people thinking Joanna Newsom is all into herself

^^^^ otm

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.)

This isn't quite right. Yeah, bunch of people here are reacting to the hyperbole, but a bunch of other people do think her shit's pretentious.

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

I think for the most part it's just lolz to call her pretentious the way it was lolz to say "kate bush is for hippies" when hounds of love came out

I have said repeatedly for my own part that I think she's mad talented but the fun to be had from poking fun at her schtick & getting a rise out of her champeens is without peer

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah gotta say that when this thread to a turn for amy grant, it turned a serious frown upside down for me. was having a cruddy day and then it was all lols. and amy grant. i think i might get this album though.

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

I think for the most part it's just lolz to call her pretentious the way it was lolz to say "kate bush is for hippies" when hounds of love came out

For some people on ILM, sure. But there's a contingent of people who actually do really think her shit's pretentious.

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

From a 1-star Amazon review:

waaaaaaaay too many words. You want this many words, Joanna, write a book. You can't get past the words to approach the music here - too many words. Relentless words.

How dare she!

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

get over it

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

people are going to hate stuff. enjoy her music and don't worry about what other people think

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

These same people are probably Fleet Foxes fans and can be safely ignored.

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

don't read amazon reviews about her

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

the more pretentious she is the more I like her

if she started some of these interviews with "I don't walk I get carried" I'd buy the new album

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i usually only read youtube comments for deep insights into artists i like

he often deploys multiple browsers and constantly replies to himself (velko), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:57 (fourteen years ago) link

How are you going to perform these songs with all their parts and layers in a live setting?

Ryan wrote a reduction for his larger arrangements. We'll have two violinists and a trombone. Ryan will be playing tambura, guitar, mandolin, kaval (a Bulgarian flute), a recorder and a bunch of other stuff. Neal Morgan will be doing percussion. I'll play harp and piano.

And of course there will be pyrotechnics and the lasers.

http://x52.xanga.com/aa08354364108106328510/z75240871.jpg

that guy who doesn't get it but doesn't know he doesn't get it (M.V.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:58 (fourteen years ago) link

okay that would be the greatest stage show ever

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

The Independent:

With her scratchy squawk, not unlike the noise a cat makes when there are fireworks outside, delivering words that sound as though they were chosen for their cuteness from some old-fashioned rhyming dictionary, she risks appearing irredeemably pretentious.

(link)

Joanna Newsom - Pretentious and Overrated

From snippets on Google & pages linked to from a search for "Joanna Newsom" pretentious:

Ugh, I can't stand her. The epitome of pretentious hipster bullshit music.

Partly I like it because it's pretentious as hell and it's got a goofy ren-faire cover

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

what part of "ignore stupid ppl" is difficult to grasp here

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

pretentiousness is kinda underrated

('_') (omar little), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link

Not fretting about what other people think of her. I was just supporting my claim that other people think shit's pretentious.

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

think her shit's pretentious

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

what part of "ignore stupid ppl" is difficult to grasp here

HI DERE on an otm spree, spearing truth like a unicorn picking apples

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

so that's what the horn is for ....

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

HI DERE on an otm spree, spearing truth like a unicorn picking apples

<3 love you, man

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Not fretting about what other people think of her.

You kind of are.

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

wouldn't a unicorn skewer the apples

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link

what part of "ignore stupid ppl" is difficult to grasp here

HI DERE on an otm spree, spearing truth like a unicorn picking apples

― Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.)

Not fretting about what other people think of her. I was just supporting my claim that other people think shit's pretentious.

― ksh

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

no Edward III the unicorn has a bucket he just knocks the apples into it

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

why the fuck's a unicorn got a bucket

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link

then he sits at a little chair by the highway selling the apples from a table spread with a gingham tablecloth & later Robert Frost writes a poem about it

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

to catch the apples duh

xp

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

all part of God's plan you guys

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

For context: Dylan lolz and Dylan love have coexisted for nearly half a century.

that guy who doesn't get it but doesn't know he doesn't get it (M.V.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Not fretting about what other people think of her.

You kind of are.

― Mr. Que

Yeah, no. Talking about how people react to her music isn't fretting.

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

okay, but in the context of the conversation here (which is equal parts conversation about the album/unicorn vivisection jokes), discussing whether people find her pretentious is like the least interesting topic you could choose to discuss; no one here is afraid of art projects, no one here is afraid of classical music encroaching upon their indie and no one here is afraid of cerebralism, so no one is really going to challenge you on that assertion and it won't really lead the conversation anywhere enlightening and/or funny

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Glad you've weighed in with your opinion.

ksh, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Talking about how people react to her music isn't fretting.

you're not talking, though, you're just kinda posting a bunch of stuff you googled and found and so it comes across like fretting and i dunno brother

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

is this what it's like when we talk about the album

鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Is this real life

Turangalila, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

caught in a landslide, no escape from the unicorn

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

talk about the changes in her singing and whether they enhance or dtract from the material, talk about whether a triple album is genius or insanity, talk about the likelihood that she has a tattoo on her inner thigh of Gonzo/Fozzie frottage*; pretty sure anyone would be more than happy to engage you on those topics

* 5%, btw

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

For context: Dylan lolz and Dylan love have coexisted for nearly half a century.
otm, and Brian Wilson lols and Lou Reed lols. These guys are my favorites, and I loooove making fun of them.

tylerw, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually are there vocal Brian Wilson haters? It seems like you'd have to be an insane curmudgeon to earnestly, genuinely hate The Beach Boys?

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Gonzo/Fozzie frottage

thread is a gift from God, imho

Mr. Que, Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link

(moving away from lols to the polarizing effect many of these artists have, obv)

Bunsen burner, bubbles, IT'S ALIVE! whaaaaa-? (HI DERE), Tuesday, 2 March 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link


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