Best Led Zeppelin Album?

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6 people vote they don't like Black Sabbath.
16 people vote they don't like Led Zeppelin. 9 votes more than II got.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 19 April 2007 23:27 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm actually sort of curious what the result would have been over at the Blue Oyster Cult thread for "I don't like Blue Oyster Cult." I sort of suspect it would have been the number one option.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 19 April 2007 23:28 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wish those people would post why they don't like them and join in the chat rather than just voting.
But I do think people should include the I Don't Like Option in polls. It's fair enough. But they could just explain what it is they don't like.

If there's a Beatles poll will anti-canon ilxors vote for I Don't Like Them so it actually wins it?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 19 April 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Kinda weird how the first four albums got staggered and stayed in descending order.

― Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 19 April 2007 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I really can't believe II did so badly.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:00 (seventeen years ago) link

I didn't vote in this poll, but if I had, "Don't like" would have been my pick. I haven't heard all of their catalog, but I've heard quite a bit.
Based on that, I'd say that their songs seem to be either filled with lots of boring, drug-induced guitar tinkering (and other uninspiring demonstrations of technical skill), or with these sucky vocal parts that confuse seriousness with meaningfulness. Sometimes both.

― Tape Store, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

It's good to see someone saying actually why they don't like them.
Even though I don't agree :)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:37 (seventeen years ago) link

That's 16 people who shouldn't be allowed to post anymore

― max, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting that PG came in first. That was my favorite way back in high school, and I didn't know anyone who agreed with me on that. Like all Zepplin albums, it isn't consistently great all the way through, but its being a double album gives it some extra weight when compared with their other top albums. I still have to give the edge to Houses-- just so creative and expert.

― professor ganson, Friday, 20 April 2007 02:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I just wish those people would post why they don't like them and join in the chat rather than just voting.
But I do think people should include the I Don't Like Option in polls. It's fair enough. But they could just explain what it is they don't like.

OTM

Surprised that IV was number two. It's their true single album, I guess.

The top four all have over 20 votes, impressive. ILM is still king.

― Bee OK, Friday, 20 April 2007 03:33 (seventeen years ago) link

More votes than the Beatles poll.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 20 April 2007 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link

HI DERE!

― The Amazing Randy, Friday, 20 April 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyway, I'm kind of surprised IV placed that highly, considering that only a couple people actually talked about voting for it on the thread. I guess a lot of the silent voters like that one the best.

-- Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 19 April 2007 23:25

I voted for it

― Stormy Davis, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link

I like IV a lot so far, considering it's the album i knew the most songs from already, but honestly I feel like Stairway to Heaven just drags it down in the middle. not sick of it, just dont like it that much!

it would be really interesting to figure out why it become just a radio staple---bathroom break song for the dj?

― ryan, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:50 (seventeen years ago) link

those 16 votes must be the results of sock puppet voting, representing a few individuals. Sure, there is no absolute principle about loving Zeppelin, but it just stands to reason that if you have a functioning auditory system and at least paramecium-level cognition that you'll recognize that they kick serious ass.

― Chaucer Arafat, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Obviously it was the stock answer of people who hate polls.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 20 April 2007 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"bathroom break song for the dj?"
Hahah...I hath colleged DJ'd, therefore I understand the meaning of "bathroom break" song. But I'd rather not talk about Stairway, to be honest.

I just wanted to say that as far as Physical Graffiti goes and all...someone upthread had said it was all about "In My Time Of Dying"...that song took so late to hit me...I'd already decided I liked the album as a whole but for the first few months after I got into the album, it was just another good song on the album for me, not really standing out. And then one day maybe 6 months after that, I suddenly realized that "In My Time Of Dying" seemed to be the most amazing thing I'd ever heard, etc. and it was all I wanted to listen to over and over and over, couldn't get it out of my head. And then the weird thing is I now remember hearing this song in a car with someone in my early 20's when I avoided Led Zeppelin and it meant nothing at all to me, then. Just nothing. And yet it was the same song. Crazy.

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

The ultimate college radio bathroom break song is, of course, "Dope Smoker." I had a DJ with a Saturday morning show who would put that in when he had a hangover and didn't feel like doing anything.

― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 21 April 2007 02:49 (seventeen years ago) link

A shoutout to Ryan, wherever he is:

"Ten Years Gone" was my favourite song too when I first heard Physical Graffiti, indeed that was my first favourite Led Zeppelin song in the whole world or something. There's two more songs I like just a little bit more than that now, but it's still a very close third.

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Are you talking about the album by Sleep, Jeff?

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, the song, but since the song IS the album, yes.

― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:38 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah "In My Time of Dying" didnt really sink in the one time i have listened to it. but i'll definetly go back to it. I have to have become obsessed with "Friends" on III and im not listening to the other albums enough.

i really love the last minute or so of Houses of the Holy. I've also just discovered that "When the Levee Breaks" is fantastic. plant had a little more range than i realized.

― ryan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"When The Levee Breaks" was actually the first time I ever took any positive notice of Led Zeppelin, I'm serious. It was like 1991 or so, and I heard that and I was like "Wait a minute, Led Zep aren't so bad, listen to that drum sound on this song etc." and then soon after that shoegazing band Chapterhouse came along and ripped off the drum sound from that song for their popular single "Pearl". Wasn't it? And I said to my friend who was crazy about Chapterhouse "listen to this, this is where they got it from" but of course my friend didn't care or whatever.

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey hey momma, whatssa matter here?

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 03:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I just programmed Black Dog into my phone. It sounds really sweet in midi-guitar

― Hurting 2, Saturday, 21 April 2007 04:08 (seventeen years ago) link

TANGERINE!!!!!!!

HOW THE BYRDS WOULD BITE THEIR LIPS IN JEALOUSY!!!!

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 04:57 (seventeen years ago) link

My friend, the boy next door...

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm still kinda surprised there's so much love for a canon band like Led Zep on ILM.
16 people of course disagree..

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:24 (seventeen years ago) link

ok, i like "The Song Remains the Same," but I'm not really seeing why so many of you consider it your favorite LZ song...it hasnt really stuck out like that for me yet.

― ryan, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Can someone please explain to me or point me to a thread telling me what "Canon bands" are and why there is such hatred for them on here? I think I'm caught up on the whole "rockism versus popism" thing, but this is new to me.

― Jeff Treppel, Saturday, 21 April 2007 19:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Ryan, listen to the live version of it from the soundtrack to the Song Remains The Same film. That's really my fave version, I didn't mean the album version as much.

― Bimble, Saturday, 21 April 2007 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I think it's worth mentioning that even as I spent a ridiculous amount of money on CD's tonight, my loot included the BBC Sessions and How The West Was Won, neither of which I have owned before. And all because of ILM. So I want to give you all a great big kiss. Or something.

I'm going to get more beer.

― Bimble, Sunday, 22 April 2007 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

jeff a lot of times it's not that there's a hatred of canon bands (you know, accepted classics) so much as there is an exhaustion over endless discussion of them.

― pretzel walrus, Sunday, 22 April 2007 07:56 (seventeen years ago) link

that said lz kick ass and you're probably missing a chromosome or something if you don't like them

― pretzel walrus, Sunday, 22 April 2007 08:01 (seventeen years ago) link

The BBC Sessions cd is awesome and you won't regret buying that.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

it is? damnit! now i got another one to get....how about Coda?

― ryan, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

"ok, i like "The Song Remains the Same," but I'm not really seeing why so many of you consider it your favorite LZ song...it hasnt really stuck out like that for me yet."

I was one of the people saying it's my favorite Zep song. As someone who likes more complex, technical stuff, the more blues-oriented songs can be a bit dull for me-- however great the guitar solos. This one has tremendous guitar driving the song throughout without a boring-to-me song structure.

― professor ganson, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

It has a festive, glorious opening. I think it's one of the best examples, if not the best example, of the guitar-as-orchestra thing Page was doing in this period. And it still rocks.

― Sundar, Sunday, 22 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Coda's a mixed bag by definition, but it has one of my top-3 favorite LZ songs, "Wearing and Tearing."

― Rock Hardy, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:12 (seventeen years ago) link

"It has a festive, glorious opening."

And it's such a great way to start an album, such energy throughout. Makes me think of Drive Like Jehu's "Here Come the Rome Plows"-- so expert and energetic (for lack of a better word).

― professor ganson, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Not that I'm sick of their albums they way they are - they'll still sustain me for another coupla decades - but I'd really like to resequence those early albums, adding the songs that were recorded but unused until "PG" and "Coda", see how they'd differ. "Poor Tom" is a little gem that shouldn't have been excluded from "III".

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Monday, 23 April 2007 00:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Mmm hmm. You got that right! Poor Tom is what I pull out Coda for, usually.

― Bimble, Monday, 23 April 2007 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I must go listen to that song just now then.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Re. "canon bands" for Jeff - the perception that ILM doesn't like the 'canon' of classic rock bands comes from:

- feeling on early ILM that there wasn't much to say about them any more and that discussion of them was already very well-served online.
- scepticism and debate about whether canons in popular music were desirable, preventable, inevitable etc etc.
- vociferous dislike of any given canon band by one or two prominent posters (I was, wrongly, one of these in LZ's case)

If I was to set up ILM all over again, knowing what I do now, one of the things I'd do would be to have a one-act-one-thread policy: a single 'classic or dud' thread for every band, regardless of fame or length of service, with new users encouraged to join in the everlasting conversation. (Classic or dud is still my favourite format because it starts from the viewpoint that the status of any band is always still up for grabs.)

― Groke, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Tom OTM re his last point.

One of the problems is that with thread revivals that many of those who were here years ago moan that everything has already been covered. Personally it has never bothered me and Tom changing his mind on Led Zep shows just how worthwhile it is to revive those threads. Would be great to see what people thought all those years ago and why they have changed their minds. I'm sure plenty have started to appreciate pop music just by being on ILM so clearly it works both ways. (not holding my breath on Lex or Geir though)

Anyone else you have changed your mind on, Tom?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

I suppose that could be a new thread for Tom to start actually. Just to see how everyone has changed(if at all)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes. I like the Stones a lot more now too. And I'm not bothered about the Magnetic Fields anymore - when ILM started they were a favourite band.

xpost there are threads like that around.

― Groke, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i dug out that 3 fave records of the moment thread, and was quite surprised to see what i put down initially. still sort of relevant, but i must have had those records on the brain at that time

― Charlie Howard, Monday, 23 April 2007 13:54 (seventeen years ago) link

I still like The Magnetic Fields but I guess I do listen to more Led Zep , Sabbath or the Stones now. That may be because of course for a long time I didn't need to hear those albums again as I had played them so much and then got back into them.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 23 April 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

If I was to set up ILM all over again, knowing what I do now, one of the things I'd do would be to have a one-act-one-thread policy: a single 'classic or dud' thread for every band, regardless of fame or length of service, with new users encouraged to join in the everlasting conversation.

This is difficult when threads are deleted arbitrarily...

― NYCNative, Monday, 23 April 2007 16:33 (seventeen years ago) link

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