Do we care about Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe?

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Alex is right....

I dunno, TNA about four months ago had three things going for it:

Samoa Joe
Paparazzi Productions
Eric Young

Now they're down to just Paparazzi. Samoa Joe works best when he's bouncing fuckers around like they used to in the 80s. Kurt Angle's like Kidman, you have to wrestle *his* match, irrespective of what your strengths are. For "endless reversed powerbomb spots" read "500 submission reversals".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:53 (seventeen years ago) link

So we're all in agreement ... I just watched the Iron Man match, and where to start? There are a million things wrong with it, from Angle's endless restholds to Joe dropping three falls to Angle getting a concussion on one of the few high impact moves he allowed Joe to hit him with. If Angle had to go over, then he should have gone up 1-0 after about 27 minutes, and barely held on as Joe threw everything at him in the final three minutes.

They should have looked to the Angle-Benoit 30-minute submissions only Iron Man match as an example of why this style of match doesn't work.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 20 January 2007 16:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Y'know, I was never a fan of countering a submission hold too frequently within a match, because it dilutes the danger of having it applied on you. Angle's always going on about snapping ankles, but shouldn't ONE hard twist do it, instead of a slow burn snap? That's why I hate people "hanging" on. You look at a Finley/Benoit match and Finley gets it: as soon as the Crippler Crossface is slapped on, he taps immediately. Submission counters should only be kept to special occasions and thus making them more dramatic.

alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 20 January 2007 17:40 (seventeen years ago) link


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