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my maria is the station manager of the local low power fm station that she just started (with others) here.

http://www.wvvy.org/

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Current time: 2:55:47 PM Playing: ILX Comp 2 - the red bull dozers-a woman needs a fish (5:04) Listen online

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 19:00 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, that's weird timing!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

I had Monday nights at the Ole Miss student station when I worked there. It was nice of them to let a non-student have a slot. Did a semester-long Zappa show, a yearlong ripoff of "Desert Island Discs" with local/campus bigwigs, and a couple of years of freeform wankery.

Rock Hardy, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 19:46 (sixteen years ago) link

I started this thread last year

Rolling FM Radio Station DJ/Staff Thread 2007

but it got eaten by the ILX2 move.

Been doing public FM for 21 years now!

I'd still like to know what any staff-type folks here think about that 3rd party playlist tracking system. Looked it up recently and it costs bands like $90 for 6 weeks of tracking! That's a lot for a band/label to shell out to confirm their placement in the CMJ charts...

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 20:01 (sixteen years ago) link

* Likewise, we had this host who was a right-winger who did his show out of New Mexico. He'd go on about the U.N. spying on the Ozark National Forest, and I'd play helicopter sounds over him with "audition" turned off. That way, the sounds would go over the air, but he wouldn't hear them.

I did this once, I was subbing for a dj who had this crazy guy call in every week to do political commentary on the palestine situation. I played "disco inferno" in the background.

do radio stations still have record players? it was fun to play something like edie brickell, shut down the turntable halfway through so the song slowly ground to a halt, and then fire up "kill yr idols" or some such nonsense. can't do that with a cd player.

a guy called in and requested "mr crowley". I put it on and then slowly mixed in the SPK track with the screaming and glass breaking over it. hopefully dude wasn't tripping.

I remember getting called into the gm's office after one of my shows had had an obscenity complaint filed against it. they had circled everything on my playlist they thought was offensive. a track off songs about fucking, "you look like a jew" by pussy galore. I think the offending item turned out to be "dopeman" by nwa. lol 80s.

Edward III, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Sleeve, sorry to rob yr steez!

I work for WFIV (bad website, not the best station either) and 850 WKVL (AM) and I volunteer for the listener-supported (and awesome) WDVX.

I board-op/produce and do a little office stuff. What do y'all do, if you haven't said?

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

im the station manager here: http://www.koxy.org/

we're on hiatus right now while we upgrade the booth tho

max, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:36 (sixteen years ago) link

Station manager, oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhh

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Breaker Breaker!

We've got a fuckin Convoy

Fer Ark, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:56 (sixteen years ago) link

jealous roxx

max, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

jealous that you are not my station manager instead of this coke-headed weasel *jerks thumb to the left*

roxymuzak, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link

i do i do i do i do i do i do: music shows music shows music shows

t**t, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 22:08 (sixteen years ago) link

i was music director at my college station for three years! www.myspace.com/wmeb i think it is. i did my show until last fall, when my work schedule changed and i couldn't find time for it anymore. i miss it. love radio.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 8 April 2008 22:18 (sixteen years ago) link

hey roxy no worries, that was a 2007 thread! I think this thread will work just fine for what I had in mind, gonna bookmark this.

I have occasionally done production work, but mostly just stick to doing my show. We are all required to review CDs and stuff. I love our station, we have some really good DJs. We are also a "CMJ Core Station", for whatever the fuck that's worth. Right now our streaming is down (changing servers) but station website is here: www.kwvaradio.net and streaming is thru Shoutcast, search for "KWVA". I'm on Mondays at 4 PM PST.

I was trying to remember the name of this listening /charting/tracking service we use that I mentioned above but I can't think of it right now.

Thought for discussion: Do all successful independent FM stations have a strong General Manager who has been there long-term? Seems to me that it is a key factor...

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 00:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Hm. Our station definitely has had the same dude in charge for a long, long time, and is a successful station despite this particular guy being seemingly terrible at his job and widely disliked.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

So, I mean, you may be on to something.

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd love to get into radio, actually. No college radio experience or similar though. Is it just a question of volunteering for a few months to learn enough to be let on the air? Surely anyone can do a graveyard shift on hospital radio. Or at least that's what I'm hoping...

gnarly sceptre, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Define "work?" I host Breakfast of Champions Thursday on WMBR, listen to two weeks of archived programming here.

zaxxon25, Wednesday, 9 April 2008 22:01 (sixteen years ago) link

What kind of computer programs do you all use in studio (if you use computers -- the station I volunteer at, WDVX, is all oldstyle. Everything is run on like a 1960s TEAC)?

roxymuzak, Sunday, 13 April 2008 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link

When no one's in the studio, we run off SAM Broadcaster (streaming audio manager). We're very low-budget (and low-power, at 93 watts). What we transmit is actually a 64-k webstream because the bandwidth at the studio building is so low. But we get to use the studio for free, so no complaints. Nobody gets paid in our operation. Matter of fact, it costs us money to do it. It's all for the love. If anybody here sends me a mix sans swearwords and it's good, I'll play it on our radio station for almost all of martha's vineyard to hear. My show is Wednesday, 10-12 noon (listen at http://rs1.radiostreamer.com:8360). This week I'm going to play a lot of Nigerian stuff.

scott seward, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:46 (sixteen years ago) link

i keep doing that - scott and I share a cmputer now

Maria :D, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:47 (sixteen years ago) link

also, i often put up archives of my show at myspace/mariad
The one that's up there now might actually be a skotmix

Maria :D, Monday, 14 April 2008 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

i've probably beat you all over the head with it already, but i'm doing an eight-week reading + discussion program about old science fiction stories for Resonance FM in london with former board regular mark sinker and a rotating cast of bozos. sorry i mean valued guests. it's called "a bite of stars, a slug of time, and thou" and is available for the castin o' the pods at http://freakytrigger.co.uk/slugoftime

Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:04 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.wrek.org/?q=staff
http://psychoutwrek.blogspot.com/

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 14 April 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

some of our gear:

Eventide BD500 digital cart machine

some Tascam pro CD players. The CD-450's are awesome, the "professional" CD-01U is garbage.

D-16 digital audio console

Mosely MRC 1620 remote control to transmitter

we just got approved for an antenna height raise, twice as much power (up to 1000 watts), and a station expansion! Life is good.

sleeve, Monday, 14 April 2008 23:12 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

there is a damned dog loose in the studio

roxymuzak, Saturday, 3 May 2008 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

there were a bunch of old guys loose in our studio. grizzled ones.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Sunday, 4 May 2008 09:18 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Can anyone find a list of hand signals used in broadcasting on the web? We're having a breakdown in communication in this piece.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 31 May 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

wow I had no idea such things existed.

only four google results for "hand signals" + "web broadcasting", but I'm sure you already know that. not much info in any of them.

sounds like you should call a journalism school, maybe?

sleeve, Saturday, 31 May 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i've basically invented our system of signals at our station, but i know there is a standard language. the only one i know from this is the "C" sign = 30 seconds left.

roxymuzak, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

i think she meant an article, published on the web, about hand signals in broadcasting

max, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

the only hand signal we used at my station was this one http://twothirds.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/middle_finger.jpg

max, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

well yeah, that is what i meant

xpost pretty sure that one's universal in the field

roxymuzak, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

firefox is being forced to close!

roxymuzak, Saturday, 31 May 2008 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf I am using ff on a mac.

it is a Google Book Search result so I cannot C-and-P

weird

sleeve, Saturday, 31 May 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

here is the pdf file

you want pages 9-11

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qsck8r

sleeve, Saturday, 31 May 2008 22:26 (fifteen years ago) link

bump 4 roxy

sleeve, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:29 (fifteen years ago) link

THANKING U SLEEVE!

<3

roxymuzak, Monday, 2 June 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

feel so shitty right now. lots of weird conflict undertones going on. tension between student and community factions. volunteers treated badly. i've been there for ten years and i can't really figure out what's wrong right now. got a good relationship with the GM and we're gonna talk soon but it just sucks. good DJs are leaving. ten years (11 actually) is longer than any job/house/relationship i've had.

if anybody has more specific info regarding FCC policy around student/community ratios and volunteer requirements and such I would love to hear more or get pointed towards info. or if any of y'all have been through upheavals at stations before.

I probably shouldn't even be posting this here.

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 05:27 (fourteen years ago) link

"if anybody has more specific info regarding FCC policy around student/community ratios and volunteer requirements"

can you be more specific? i'm the operations manager at a college/community station and i might be able to help. you can email me using the email in my user profile if you don't want to talk about it in public.

elan, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link

great, thanks.

sleeve, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 05:37 (fourteen years ago) link

five years pass...

lol

Important song note:

Have you heard, seen, downloaded, or otherwise considered the song "Did You Say" by stephaniesid? Please DO NOT play the song!

There are EAS tones in this song, used as sound effects at about the 20-second mark. EAS is the Emergency Alert System and it is prohibited by the FCC to use the tones in any circumstance other than a valid EAS issued by the federal, state, or local agency. It is a big deal too, the FCC fined iHeartMedia $1million for airing the tones in a program. You would recognize the EAS tone if you heard it, all radio and television stations air the tone before and after any Emergency Alert message, an example is here via YouTube.

We have not put this track on rotation. The record label is aware and working to get an edited version out.

So again, DO NOT AIR ANY CONTENT WITH EAS TONES!

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Hahaha

pplains, Wednesday, 10 June 2015 20:49 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

regarding recent discussions on the DMCA and the prohibition of multiple songs by the same artist in an hour, I thought I'd c&p this message from our station manager regarding "The Current" and their all-Prince marathon:

spoke with The Current and they are indeed streaming this as well as broadcasting over their FM airwaves. I asked about how they're doing it considering the DMCA rules and was told they are disregarding the rules... they said they may be the test case and they are willing to do that (they have good legal counsel and lots of money). To my knowledge there has not been enforcement against any stations disregarding the artist/time DMCA rules, but as more stations do it, I can see enforcement beginning. As mentioned above, the recording industry is ever-lobbying to protect artist rights (and protect the labels' profits), and the DMCA came from that intent. The DMCA is outdated (it was written based on 1996 treaties), as digital technology has changed a lot, but it is still the rule and we still have to follow it.

So yeah, our manager is not willing to be a DMCA test case, hence the restriction. If you hear a station do this, they are technically violating the DMCA. Hopefully this will get resolved/changed in the courts sometime this decade (especially if stations keep flaunting the rules like this).

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Saturday, 23 April 2016 00:13 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

This is a long, interesting (if you’re interested) artcile on the new prominence of the Adult/Hot AC formats, but which also touches on lots of other general issues in current radio programming — including the reluctance of pop stations to play hip-hip/R&B, and their corresponding decline in relevance (“Have you looked at a Top 40 chart from 20 years ago — the diversity in styles, artists, tempos?” asks a programmer. “We’ve gotten very safe, very homogenized.”); the “tempo” debate (Top 40 playing too many ballads); the “zero mainstream currency” of rock (“with the exception of Imagine Dragons, ‘the Foreigner of this decade’”), etc.:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/adult-contemporary-radio-hits-millennials-724945/

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:00 (five years ago) link

(I haven’t worked in radio for years, and don’t even really listen, but I still find this stuff interesting!)

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 13:03 (five years ago) link

The way they're using "millennials" seems odd but I think I'm actually in favour of making generational terms meaningless.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 14:51 (five years ago) link

Interesting and helpful piece, though.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:03 (five years ago) link

Yeah, “millennials” seems to be used as just an all-purpose headline hook.

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:07 (five years ago) link

Hm, is this working differently in Canada (or Ottawa)? Fall 2016 ratings for Ottawa seem to show CBC1 (news, talk) way out front, followed by a Top 40 station, an AM talk radio station, the classic rock station, and then an adult contemporary station, just ahead of CBC2 (a few classical programmes and a mix of mid-tempo bland music of all kinds the rest of the day) and an alternative/modern rock station, which is not very different than what I would have expected and not really showing much evidence of a new prominence of Hot AC. I just checked the Fall 2017 numbers and they show the same thing.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:13 (five years ago) link

not really showing much evidence of a new prominence of Hot AC

or zero mainstream currency for rock (esp given that CBC2 plays a lot of triple A-type stuff).

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:26 (five years ago) link

OK, looking at radio ratings for Boston makes the article make more sense.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

Four AC-related stations ahead of the "alternative" station!

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 15:52 (five years ago) link

Interesting, though: the closest analogue to CBC is NPR, which doesn't even rate.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

Here in the L.A. area, the NPR affiliates are KCRW & KPCC, both of which do make the rankings: https://ratings.radio-online.com/cgi-bin/rol.exe/arb003

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:44 (five years ago) link

(It's actually interesting to me that KPCC rates higher than KCRW, I would have expected the reverse.)

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:45 (five years ago) link

Anyway, the L.A. chart also seems to illustrate this phenomenon well -- KIIS (the market's big Top 40 station) is #4, and look at #1-3...!

a neon light ablaze in this green smoky haze (morrisp), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:46 (five years ago) link

I think there were some affiliates on the Boston list too. They just seem a lot lower, compared to the dominant place of CBC. OMG, though, three AC stations in your top 4! 2xp

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:47 (five years ago) link

which I guess I knew re NPR; just striking to see it documented. Tbh, I had no idea so many people listen to CBC2. It's practically a station designed by music critics.

The nexus of the crisis (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 October 2018 16:49 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

(It’s not just about Ariana, btw, lol)

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 March 2019 19:03 (five years ago) link

Poor pop radio....such an issue

If each of those marquee artists start pushing four or five singles at once, that would make it difficult for anyone new to get major radio play. This can be especially dangerous at Top 40 radio, further decreasing variety in a format that’s already struggling with what one former promoter calls “lack of diversity.” “It’s hard to make room for other artists,” Graham acknowledges. “I have talks with labels all the time: I would love to get to your song, but when Ari is dropping something [or three somethings], or Bruno and Cardi are coming out, those take the place of other new songs.”

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:25 (five years ago) link

I guess the algorithms tell them they can’t play other people

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:27 (five years ago) link

The thrust of the article is that they actually do want to play other artists, and traditionally try to maintain diversity. What’s not spelled out (b/c it doesn’t need to be) is that no PD wants to turn down a new single from an established superstar.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:40 (five years ago) link

No pd wants to limit airtime each hour for star’s multiple hits

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 March 2019 23:49 (five years ago) link

Well, they want to strike a balance, that’s what makes it a challenge when suddenly the big artists are releasing singles on top of singles.

yuh yuh (morrisp), Sunday, 10 March 2019 00:04 (five years ago) link

yeah yeah yeah

https://i.imgur.com/Ghyv9yr.jpg

pplains, Sunday, 10 March 2019 02:52 (five years ago) link

Between writing, interviewing and radio, the latter was the most fun. God I miss it tons. :-(

nathom, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:07 (five years ago) link

three years pass...

headed into my 25th (!!) year volunteering at the local college station, I am on now for another hour-plus

www.kwvaradio.org

coming up on my 32nd anniversary of being on real FM (various Oregon stations), and my 39th of being on cable FM (various Indiana stations). Amazingly I still love it.

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 00:52 (one year ago) link

Congrats

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 06:41 (one year ago) link

sweet

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 10:31 (one year ago) link

39th anniversary! incredible!!

stirmonster, Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:42 (one year ago) link

Thanks all!

The cable FM stations didn't really "count" as the signal only available in houses/businesses with cable TV, otoh it was a great place to learn because you could do anything.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_radio

Eventually the Indiana station (WQAX) morphed into a full FM community station but it was in the 90's after I left. When I finally got on a real microphone at a real station in 1991, I was nervous as hell!

obsidian crocogolem (sleeve), Tuesday, 7 March 2023 17:55 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

Went to a DJ meeting tonight and the current group of student staff are, I think, the sharpest and most together and most committed staff I've seen in my whole time there. Super inspiring, the DJ director, music dept, sports, marketing, and news all seem really plugged in and engaged. The station's 30th anniversary is later this month. Go team.

Perverted By Linguiça (sleeve), Tuesday, 2 May 2023 03:10 (eleven months ago) link


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