So come on Pinefox, what *do* you see in Go West?

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i thought robins q was fine. i would be interested in the answer as well.

gareth, Tuesday, 11 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

He's been a bit quiet on this thread, hasn't he?

Robin Carmody, Wednesday, 12 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Go West move me.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

For me Go West definitely represent the point at which "New Pop" cut the umbilical cord which bound it to punk/post-punk. The first of that ilk to come through with absolutely no irony or subtext whatsoever.

At the time Deacon Blue were still calling themselves Chewy Raccoon and Ricky Ross was insisting that he was a punk at heart.

Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Subtext = homoeroticism.

the pinefox, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

As I said upthread, there are the bare bones of something moving in "Don't Look Down - The Sequel", just obliterated and thrown utterly out of shape.

Marcello is right on the money here.

Homoeroticism? Sorry, can't see it.

Robin Carmody, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

It's no joke. I mean, the man paid good money to go and see them. I'm almost as baffled as the next man, but I've seen him whoop about their songs and by gum, there's passion there.

Ally C, Thursday, 13 December 2001 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
I recently listened again to the 2nd LP, DANCING ON THE COUCH (1987). It was splendid.

I have 'From Baltimore To Paris' in my head right now. It's marvellous. Those looming strings late on.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:26 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, it's their/their producer's use of strings that makes Go West worth trying to figure out; also, that guy's vocals have a very wistful, slightly sad quality to them. Although ABC 0\|/|\|z0rZ them obv.

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

how timely.
someone just made me a cdr of scritti's cupid & psyche and put go west on there to fill it up. i flinched, but now i'm wondering...

gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...
In retrospect I wonder too. Mr. John D.'s comment does intrigue me, though.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

He's OK up till the bit about ABC.

the bellefox, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

You mean you like Go West more than ABC? Gosh, now I'm intrigued about that!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Heck, yes - did ye not know?

the bellefox, Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Well now I do! What would you say is the difference? (Also, do you hate ABC or is it just that Go West does what ABC does but better?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I like ABC, a lot, in my head, but I don't really know them. I might like them even more, if I did knew them even less!

JtN reviews ABC very nicely in UNCUT, you should look. I agree with JtN about ABC, I think; I also like JtN's covers of ABC, a lot.

The difference between GW and ABC: that's an interesting one, I'll think on and get back to you.

the bellefox, Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank ya. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
"he difference between GW and ABC: that's an interesting one, I'll think on and get back to you.

-- the bellefox (pinefo...), November 11th, 2004.

the Enrique who acts like some kind of good taste gestapo (Enrique), Saturday, 29 April 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...

Dude can't actually pronounce "we close our eyes", can he? For all its chest-beating "we can walk on wahahahaw-duh" talk, its central message contains a TOUCHING VULNERABILITY

The Pinefox has had four years, now

MPx4A, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I do love "King of Wishful Thinking."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 13:34 (fifteen years ago) link

if "We Close Our Eyes" was the only thing I'd heard from Go West, I would respect them a good deal more. It's a great song. One thing I will say about it is that I find it impossible to divorce the song in my mind from its video; it's like "Sledgehammer" in that respect, although the video lacks the artistry shown by Aardman in "Sledgehammer", it is certainly striking.

As indeed are the lyrics:

Inside everyone hides one desire
-- what an opening line!

Outside no one would know

Danger, close as the edge of the knife
-- I particularly like the way Cox sings "danger" here

Safer not to let go
And whil we miss chances
You can almost hear time slipping away
-- actually "way-away-away-away"

We close our eyes we never lose a game
Imagination never lets us take the blame
We close our eyes to see the final frame
We close our eyes to time slipping away

No show... Wednesday girl waits with the wine
She knows just what to say
While no one listens
You can almost hear time slipping away

We close our eyes we never lose a game
Imagination never lets us take the blame
We close our eyes to see the final frame
We close our eyes to time slipping away

We can talk to strangers
We are burning with the spark
And we can walk on water
We are tigers in the dark
We are burning!
-- how many other 80s hits reference Blake????

We close our eyes

Heroes never give in to the night
He knows how far he can run
And as he surrenders
You can almost hear time slipping away

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

It was downhill fast from there. King of Wishing Thinking is particularly bad coz it has that dreadful VRERRRR! sound that links verse to chorus - Whitney's I Wanna Dance With Somebody has it too. Actually lots of eighties songs do - why?????

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

because it's great

blueski, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

We close our eyes to see the final frame

It's about snooker. Good.

Michael Jones, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I do love "King of Wishful Thinking."

only found out this was a GW song about two weeks ago, having had it intermittently stuck in my head for about 17 years, even though the last and only time I heard it before that was on a tannoy in Toys R' Us the year it came out. The second listen was kind of disappointing

Wi Close Ah Wyes is a fuckin banger though

MPx4A, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Whitney's I Wanna Dance With Somebody has it too. Actually lots of eighties songs do - why?????

Jam and Lewis perfected it. Listen to almost Janet Jackson single and Human League's "Human."

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

perhaps the pinefox's refusal to be goaded (Carmoded?) by the slightly confrontational thread title is commendable

MPx4A, Friday, 16 May 2008 15:23 (fifteen years ago) link

"We Close Our Eyes" is great. Dunno about the rest although I was kind of surprised by "Faithful" being quite good several years later.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 16 May 2008 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you, MP4xA. Maybe it doesn't need answering? I like them! Love some of their records.

Grandpoint Genie, good stuff - but I don't especially agree about the falling-off. I think I like 'Call Me' more ... maybe even 'Don't Look Down' too? And there are many other fine Go West tracks. Most of them, on the first two LPs ... it's only with the third, Indian Summer, that things went in the wrong direction.

the pinefox, Friday, 16 May 2008 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Random play of '90s hit box set gave me their cover version of "Tracks of My Tears" (UK #16, 1993) last week; it made me giggle how he sang "People say I'm the life of the party / Because I tell a joke or two" sounding like the boringest dullest dude ever.

Didn't they turn up on v silly quasibetshow "Banzai" in some egg-to-forehead-based shenanigans about a decade ago btw?

anatol_merklich, Friday, 16 May 2008 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

nine years pass...

https://youtu.be/af6L1jBZGYA

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Monday, 12 February 2018 09:19 (six years ago) link


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