Counting Crows--C/D

Theire most famous record still looks like it's by Cunting Crews.

"A Long December" is pretty.

They aren't the Wallflowers.

So neither classic nor dud.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

But they are forever burned into my head for Big Yellow Taxi and that song/video sums up everything wrong with them. INCLUDING having Vanessa Carlton in the video and credited on the song when all she did was go "mmmm-bop-bop-bop."

Like Hanson didn't already cover the whole Mmmbop thing. What the hell more does she think needs to be added?

I'll refrain from any jokes about Fatty Dread Man and his Gut of Goo.

Greatest hits => Classic

Not so much DUD as, say, STAB.

Sorry what??

I'd rather count sheep.

thank you.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38205000/jpg/_38205816_crows_pa_150.jpg http://www.artistdirect.com/Images/Sources/AMGPORTRAITS/music/portrait200/drp000/p014/p01479o6a7f.jpg

CLASSSSSSSSIC. I really don't get the hate. I just went through their discography today thinking I'd end up hating my 12-year-old self, but after listening to a number of tracks, I think my CC love was justified. OK, so Hard Candy/August and Everything After are mostly filled with bad Train/Dave Matthews-esque tracks, almost all of their songs on Recovering the Satellites and This Desert Life are brilliant...especially "Chelsea," "High Life," and "I'm Not Sleeping."

So, what's the problem? I see people complaining because they're 'mopey,' but what makes them any more mopey than Joy Division? Do you not believe that Duritz is really that sad? Or is his sadness just not as real? Or have you just heard the singles?

(p.s. - sample lyric for your response: "Some people will cut you 'til you're bleeding/but not me, 'cause I just want to do it to myself")

(and yes, I realize that I probably just nixed the little credibility I had)

Counting Crows can suck the dick off George W.

oh good, someone else

my favorite counting crows record is still hard candy which imo is at least 70 percent an album about insomnia and relentlessly traveling the country within the shifting center of that insomnia, 20 percent an album about memory, 5 percent an album about richard manuel dying, 5 percent an abominable big yellow taxi cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjZE-_8BsM

if you don't come through, i wouldn't wait for you
i understand that everyone goes disappearing
into the greater gray that covers over everyday
and hovers in the distance

is a pretty good lyric imo

i liked that Potter's Lullaby one

I like most of the first album and a few things on the second.

duritz was a total dick to me right when the first album came out and I ran into him on the street and congratulated him on it. he looked at me like I was an alien. granted I was probably high.

I revived the other thread last year
POLL: Counting Crows - August & Everything After
also worth reading that Grantland piece I linked in there.

I have much love for this band. They are the band my big sis and I bonded over in the 90s and still text each other about every other month or so (she lives on the other side of the US). We've both been to CC gigs within the last year by ourselves and live texted each other throughout.

Brad and Spottie talking such a strong game that it makes me almost wanna do one of my periodic "check out music you used to really hate and see if you like it now" things

give it a shot!

I still love the first two records, the second one especially. I heard a song from the new one and it was pretty good! Will have to give the whole thing a listen.

I used to like them and have fondness for a few songs but aero your long post on another thread about your utter contempt for this band is some beautiful hating and I would be sad to see you renege on it.

ha those posts are great it's true! I will never feel the need to defend this band, tbf. Just one of those bands I like that I expect everyone else hates and I'm comfortable with that. Would be interested in hearing aero's thoughts on a re-listen tho, see if the hatred is too deep to approach this from a different angle.

Basically Spottie feels about Counting Crows the way I feel about Styx.

I will never feel the need to defend this band

yep

count me in. i actually liked large chunks of that covers record from a few years back. didn't even know a new one was due.

Recovering The Satellites is a wonderful album imo

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02539/duritz_2539013b.jpg

"Long December" playing in the hotel restaurant where I'm trying to eat breakfast. Truly, this is the worst music of all fucking time.

too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned) wrote this at 2012-12-17 17:13:11.000

I totally get how this is not breakfast music.

I totally get how this is not breakfast music.

and the feeling that it's all a lot of egg whites with no yolks

spottie what do you think of the new one

Bout to fire it up, will report back!

think "earthquake driver" is his best lyric overall in a while (saturday nights & sunday mornings was oddly both restrained and unhinged lyrically, duritz endlessly musing on "everything" and "nothing" which was pretty boring). think "dislocation" is my favorite song. think this is way better than saturday nights in general and really enjoy the expansive qualities of "palisades park" and "johnny appleseed's lament"

Listened a couple times.

God of the Ocean Tides (aka Dust in the Wind?) is really nice, as well as Possiblity Days. I think they do ballads as good as anyone. Palisades Park and John Appleseed's Lament are def standouts. The hook on Dislocation kinda grates but the rest is good, might grow on me. Kinda love the final third of this lp straight up. Even into the ragtime stomper 'cover up the sun'.

been spending a lot of time with the most recent one and it's better than I even gave it credit for at the time (I am weirdly, unnecessarily bet-hedging in this thread idk why)

been preaching to the already-converted for a while that hard candy is their best record if you delete the big yellow taxi cover from every layer of existence

I've always had a soft spot for their tune "Perfect Blue Buildings" as when I was in school I remember being dirty and dead tired washing dishes about 3am in the back of a restaurant/bar alone hearing it on this sad radio that was zip tied up above the 3 sink.

i associate those first albums really strongly with dirty teenage restaurant work, too. that stuff is probably too intertwined with certain memories for me to even really hear what it sounds like.

What I hate about them, much like Rob Thomas, is that Duritz's voice MAKES them MOR. He's like the anti-Fagen, whose voice IMO contrasts/complements nicely with all that Steely Dan sheen.

Duritz, instead, grounds everything in this horrible 'tastefulness' that is completely repellent IMO

I got basically no critical perspective, but whataya mean by tastefulness

I too am wondering

holiday in spain song is hitting me today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJatv7CUhys

its a real damn shame the album didnt end with this song

#1 hit in Holland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkErDMj1TW8

its a real damn shame the album didnt end with this song

― big city slam (Spottie), Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:27 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

afaic big ol taxi is a bonus track from hell

At least the original bonus track didn't have Vanessa Carlton on it, which always seemed like an odd addition.

afaic big ol taxi is a bonus track from hell

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:52 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fair. song really set them back and killed what little reputation they had at that point.

#1 hit in Holland:

― ArchCarrier, Thursday, July 11, 2019 12:38 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

did not know!

At least the original bonus track didn't have Vanessa Carlton on it, which always seemed like an odd addition.

― MarkoP, Thursday, July 11, 2019 1:07 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oooo bop bop bop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eexQVcLZV3Q

attn spottie, new counting crows EP is really awesome imo

yeah! listened to it on Friday. really love that first song. Need to spend more time w it.