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If you're interested in dub mixes of punk and post-punk, I'd recommend picking up the new "Wild Dub: Dread Meets Punk Rocker" compilation. Not only does it include the Ruts (Jah War) and the Slits (a wacked out dub of Typical Girls), it has the Pop Group, Killing Joke, the Clash, PiL, Generation X (who were actually the first group to do a dub mix, believe it or not) as well as forgotten groups such as Basement 5 and 4 Be 2. Also includes exellent liner nots by Vivien Goldman. Does anyone know who does the hidden track at the end?. Its something i've never heard before and its driving me nuts!

― Jeff K (jeff k), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:17 (twenty years ago) link

Worth it for the Killing Joke track alone!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:21 (twenty years ago) link

Yep, Turn to Red, the best track on the CD.

― Jeff K (jeff k), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

This conversation just made me hunt down an old cassette of a New Order Peel session. "Turn the Heater On", right?

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 1 May 2003 21:49 (twenty years ago) link

X O Dus "English Black Boys" to thread

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 1 May 2003 22:23 (twenty years ago) link

just downloaded this. It sorta sucks, in the same way that Dub Side of the Moon sucked. The novelty of this kinda thing is wearing off on me really quick...

― roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 2 May 2003 06:07 (twenty years ago) link

New Order have just covered "Vietnam".

― MarkH (MarkH), Friday, 2 May 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

Wasn´t there a dub version of Unknown pleasures made but someone of them recorded over the tape by mistake ?

― Jens (brighter), Friday, 2 May 2003 08:01 (twenty years ago) link

if you think 'cut' has a dub influence you should hear the second slits album, 'return of the giant slits'. it's genius.

― j fail (cenotaph), Friday, 2 May 2003 14:06 (twenty years ago) link

On the reissued version of 'Cut' there's a nice dub of 'Love and Romance'. Also the second Raincoats album 'Odyshape' sounds like a Scientist record but more angular and melodic.

― ss, Friday, 2 May 2003 14:27 (twenty years ago) link

i'm not sure

― garthan, Friday, 2 May 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

Return of the giants slits is GREAT

― Jens (brighter), Saturday, 3 May 2003 07:46 (twenty years ago) link

one year passes...

OK, so apparently this band (which I've not heard and I'm not sure I care to) have a t-shirt that is simply the Unknown Pleasures cover, but instead of purely white lines, they red, green and yellow. If anyone, especially New Yorkers see this shirt, will you please pick one up for me?!! I'll double your purchase price! I wear medium or large. I'm asking this because this has to be the BEST T-SHIRT EVER.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

...they're...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Long live "Billy Jah" the high concept dub band from West Oakland who covered Billy Joel's greatest shits in a most inpercievable manner.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I like my Noise Noise Noise T-shirt which is essentially the UP cover -- white on black -- with the store's name in the Closer font below it. A nice variant.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, I picked up a Jah Division button last time I was in NYC, from the counter of Kim's. I just ordered a copy of the 12-inch from the website, but even without hearing it I'm pretty sure I want that t-shirt too.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 27 January 2005 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm wearing it RIGHT NOW!!!! It's my favorite shirt ever.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:06 (nineteen years ago) link

And the band is great, by the way -- but I'm biased 'cause they're mostly friends. But it's really not so much novelty, especially live.

They're playing Friday at Mighty Robot, so you can probably buy a tshirt then, I bet.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link

But I live in L.A.!!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:25 (nineteen years ago) link

the ep is great - 'transmission' in particular - but i can't believe they didn't do 'decades'. that song was made to be dubbed.

― stirmonster, Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link

There's an MP3 of "Dub Will Tear Us Apart" right here:
http://www.thesocialregistry.com/index2.html
(unfortunately it sounds shitty and super compressed... but the music sounds like solid gold)

Weird - Google search turns up the fact that they are not the first "Jah Division" on record!:
http://www.jahdivision.rinet.ru/

― Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Thursday, 27 January 2005 01:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer, I'll see what I can do, no promises.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 27 January 2005 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Me too me too!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 27 January 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

this stuff is actually pretty good!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 27 January 2005 02:57 (nineteen years ago) link

oh man, that's great. i might as well go to the show on friday. If I see one and I have enough money I'll pick it up for you (but don't count on me-- i might not go). I might get one for myself-- this band is awesome. I hope they'll be selling a CD version.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:00 (nineteen years ago) link

The best thing about the shirt -- when cute hipster girls approach you and say "oh, I love Joy Division," you get to go "Huh? Who?" -- it's the little things that make life precious, you know.

― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I want one, now.

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

We should start a collection.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 27 January 2005 03:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i caught this band at CMJ this year and it was one of the best things i witnessed in 2004. im working on bringing them to philly.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link

TS: These guys vs. Boy Division, who do Boyzone songs in a JoyDiv stylee. Or maybe the other way round. No, I think it's right the first time.

Both groups sound like it's a great idea when you're pissed with you're mates at the pub, but pretty stupid to bring it to fruition.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:29 (nineteen years ago) link

They're opening for Animal Collective at the Bowery in late February. Woo-hoo!

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Thursday, 27 January 2005 04:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Now that i think about it, so many JD songs are perfect for dubness-ising.

― Nic de Teardrop (Nicholas), Thursday, 27 January 2005 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link

My 12-inch single just arrived today...$10 postpaid!

Did anyone ever get extra shirts at their recent shows?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 8 February 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Oddly enough, the only vinyl I found at the Unclaimed Luggage Center in Scottsboro, Alabama was about a dozen copies of the Jah Division 12".

I didn't buy one, but I wish there was an unclaimed T-shirt there.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

haj division. muslimgauze-style remixes of jah division songs. who's in?

i still haven't seen one of these t-shirts or buttons and i live in new york and go to kim's all the time. my hipster echolocation is so off.

― pm (p-m), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:36 (nineteen years ago) link

By the way, the single's great, but it almost sounds better slowed down to 33.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:50 (nineteen years ago) link

Must agree there with Sean. Quite grand.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 February 2005 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm VERY impressed with the tracks I heard.. at either speed! It's not corny, as I expected it would sound.

― donut debonair (donut), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I know, looking back on the early posts up top, my fears were unfounded. Has to be said that the slow versions remind me of Low's majestic take on "Transmission" in a way, but with different goals and results. Their "Disorder" at 33 rpm is ASTONISHING.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 February 2005 04:24 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

finally picked up a copy of this 12". damn fine dub takes on JD tracks. i was very, very skeptical of this and avoided picking it up for a while. a copy was still in the racks at Wall of Sound so i grabbed it quick like (also got a copy of A Certain Ratio's "The Old and the New" in one of those snazzy Factory Linen boxes).

Jah Div. -- Highly Recommended!

― biznotic, Thursday, 10 March 2005 03:44 (nineteen years ago) link

eight months pass...

So what happened to these guys? The 12" is apparently sold out (my loss), and The Social Registry hasn't said a damn thing about them since. Their "Transmission" is fucking great.

― telephone thing, Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I only heared "Love will tear us apart" which was excellent.

― mark grout (mark grout), Sunday, 4 December 2005 10:51 (eighteen years ago) link

thirteen years pass...

So whaddaya know -- original EP rereleased with extra tracks from the time.

https://jahdivision.bandcamp.com/album/dub-will-tear-us-apart-again

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 January 2019 19:30 (five years ago) link

good news!

― mh, Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

Oh man this is genius!

― calstars, Thursday, 10 January 2019 20:47 (five years ago) link

Excellent indeed. Could someone pass me the joint, please?

― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Thursday, 10 January 2019 21:11 (five years ago) link

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