I think the one you are thinking about has a mother and her son waiting around in some hotel room or something? The mother is waiting for a phone call from the other woman. Then the boy sees a tank roll through the streets. The end.
― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Broheems (diamond), Saturday, 10 April 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Sunday, 11 April 2004 12:26 (twenty years ago) link
― Baravelli. (Jake Proudlock), Sunday, 11 April 2004 14:55 (twenty years ago) link
That's Persona.
― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, 11 April 2004 17:51 (twenty years ago) link
― prima fassy (mwah), Sunday, 11 April 2004 19:38 (twenty years ago) link
who wrote the famous piece about not-interviewing bergman?
― Enrique IX: The Mediator (Enrique), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr Jones (Mr Jones), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:49 (seventeen years ago) link
http://www.ingmarbergman.se/
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 13:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I decided in the end that "The Fast Show" just starting on BBC2 would be more valuable for me culture-wise..... Meh.......
― JTS (JTS), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link
that's disappointing.
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 10 July 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:33 (seventeen years ago) link
i don't know, bergman having occasionally questionable taste is something i don't care too much about, it's bergman recklessly insulting other filmmakers that seems a bit gauche. also anyone making common cause with john simon is pretty suspect.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:44 (seventeen years ago) link
"For me he's just a hoax. It's empty. It's not interesting. It's dead. Citizen Kane, which I have a copy of— is all the critics' darling, always at the top of every poll taken, but I think it's a total bore. Above all, the performances are worthless. The amount of respect that movie's got is absolutely unbelievable."
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:00 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― mei (mei), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:21 (seventeen years ago) link
He doesn't look very glamorous in that link.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Monday, 10 July 2006 19:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:19 (seventeen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link
― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― trees (treesessplode), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:38 (seventeen years ago) link
RIP :-(
― Hanna, Monday, 30 July 2007 08:45 (sixteen years ago) link
8( have just watched 'Persona' and 'Sawdust And Tinsel' and 'Journey into Autumn' and those two documentaries about him on bbc4 in the last couple of weeks. Seventh Seal has just been re-released in cinemas here too, i must find out where it's on.
― koogs, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:09 (sixteen years ago) link
rip
― hstencil, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:20 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn. Damn. Damn.
― MsLaura, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:26 (sixteen years ago) link
was going to see transformers today but now feel kind of guilty.
― Gukbe, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:39 (sixteen years ago) link
actually, watching the film with an overwhelming feeling of guilt might be the most fitting tribute to bergman i can think of.
― Gukbe, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link
:-(
― G00blar, Monday, 30 July 2007 10:15 (sixteen years ago) link
Robots Is Pissguys
― RJG, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:10 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP, though, really, and I'll go and see transformers
Ingmar Bergman R.I.P.
― Zeno, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Gukbe OTM.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 30 July 2007 12:38 (sixteen years ago) link
So, can somebody explain to me what made Persona a parable about the Vietnam conflict? I've heard this mentioned several times, and beyond the self-immolation fragment in the opening montage I don't understand the connection. Answers appreciated, this has been bothering me for some time and Film Four's Bergman season means its bothering me again.
― I know, right?, Friday, 1 August 2008 11:51 (fifteen years ago) link
The parallel is made by zealous film professors.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 1 August 2008 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
Yeah but based on what? It's always puzzled me, I can't even see it in a tenuous way
― I know, right?, Saturday, 2 August 2008 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link
The Serpent's Egg definitely seems like lesser Bergman
― Dan S, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 00:07 (four years ago) link
It's the one film of his I couldn't be bothered to finish.
― Cornelius Fondue (Matt #2), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 01:09 (four years ago) link
Wild Strawberries is still my favorite of all of Bergman’s films. It is expansive and kind-hearted. It worries about the regrets we all have over the instances of rejection and distance that take place in the course of our lives but in the end it understands that compassion overrides everything. It is amazing that he made this when he was 39 years old
― Dan S, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link
I've realized I've been wrong about Autumn Sonata because I've denied how closely it cuts to the bone. I know way too many mothers and daughters in this same cycle of rage and affection.
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 4, 2019
There has always been praise for Ingrid Bergman in Autumn Sonata, but seeing it now Liv Ullmann’s performance seems as great. They are both particularly good in their scenes with each other
― Dan S, Monday, 25 November 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
Pretty surprised by Dreams, a masterpiece by anyone else. I know Godard was a big fan (he either reviewed it in full or in passing, but he cited it a lot in his early criticism), anyway I'm pretty sure he lifted the opening shot of Alphaville from the train sequence in Dreams. Solidly second tier Bergman imo—a movie that lingers like a dream and feels just as elusive and emotionally obscure.
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 05:15 (four years ago) link
Dreams is one of the Bergman films I’ve missed, along with Sawdust and Tinsel
― Dan S, Monday, 9 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
The first half of Fanny and Alexander is lovely and heartwarming, even when the events progress into sadness. The increasing cruelty of life in the Vergérus household in the second half is distressing but is made endurable because of Alexander’s optimism and bravery, and because the story is eventually overtaken by mystical events and by the return of Emilie, Fanny, and Alexander to the family
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 00:58 (four years ago) link
Dreams doesn't appear to be streaming or on US disc
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
It's in the big ol' box
― Simon H., Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link
(aside from a massive Criterion IB collection, that is -- no stand-alone) xp
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link
Dreams is on the Criterion Channel, as is Sawdust and Tinsel, I'm looking forward to seeing them
― Dan S, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link
The Devil's Eye is much better than his later attempt at comedy All These Women. not great, but very good
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link
I wonder what he made of his daughter Anna's acting career?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Bergman
Bergman mostly appeared as a performer in several British sex comedies during the late 1970s including the title role in Penelope Pulls It Off (1975), Adventures of a Taxi Driver (1976), Intimate Games (1976), Come Play with Me (1977) and What's Up Superdoc! (1978)
― AMM stands for Axe-Murdering Motherfuckers (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 December 2019 12:05 (four years ago) link
"Anna Bergman's films utterly depressing" -- Ingmar Bergman
― I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 December 2019 12:06 (four years ago) link
"as told to an ILX reporter."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 December 2019 12:08 (four years ago) link
"Shut UP, dad!"
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81bTOhaRUZL._SL1500_.jpg
― AMM stands for Axe-Murdering Motherfuckers (Matt #2), Saturday, 14 December 2019 12:18 (four years ago) link
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up.
So I finally knuckled down and watched The Seventh Seal. This film is such a piece of world cultural heritage it's really beyond criticism. But the above quote couldn't be more poignant, given the fires in Australia and Brazil, and other prominent climate changes. I suppose I really ought to take this to a politics thread.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
Starting scenes from a marriage , my first bergman
― calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 02:05 (two years ago) link
was my first bergman too
― Dan S, Sunday, 12 September 2021 02:14 (two years ago) link
Theatrical or mini-series version?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 12 September 2021 03:35 (two years ago) link
TV version of course
― calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 08:25 (two years ago) link
Are you watching his films in descending order of length? Fanny and Alexander next then.
― john landis as man being smashed into window (uncredited) (Matt #2), Sunday, 12 September 2021 08:27 (two years ago) link
I was going to ask what to watch next …
― calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 12:12 (two years ago) link
Here’s my review 2/3 way throughFirst third strong, delicious writing Second third weaker. Where are the daughters?
― calstars, Sunday, 12 September 2021 21:38 (two years ago) link
I watched The Magic Flute today, found it hard to stay engaged with but was pleasant background
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:15 (two years ago) link
Second third weaker. Where are the daughters?
Otm.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 12 September 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link
i'm three episodes into the HBO scenes from a marriage remake, and i like how the daughter is actually a presence in the story, as opposed to being completely ignored in the original. not finding much interesting about it beyond that, though
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:31 (two years ago) link
Bergman Island begins as a droll, faintly precious Hong Sang-soo flick before going in an unexpected, delightful direction. Mia Hansen-Løve wrote and directed.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:04 (two years ago) link
Pulled Dreams out of the box last night and really enjoyed it, as good as his early/"second tier" stuff gets. But I will always remember it for the little button at the end of Eva Dahlbeck's last scene with her lover, which got a huge LOL from me, maybe the single best joke in his filmography imho.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 13:50 (two years ago) link
I like the film a lot, can't remember the joke
― Josefa, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:01 (two years ago) link
Just a perfectly staged & timed black-comic gag after an intense dramatic scene. (Hope I got the spoiler tag right bc I dont want to ruin it for folks.)
http://i.imgur.com/cAIEp5U.jpg
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link
Ah, thanks!
― Josefa, Wednesday, 2 February 2022 16:18 (two years ago) link
to me the miniseries is just the guy from Star Wars and the lady from zero dark thirty having relationship problems no thanks
― calstars, Sunday, 6 February 2022 15:48 (two years ago) link
Damn I do want to catch the reissue of Cries and Whispers.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 13:00 (two years ago) link
The new BFI trailer for it is excellent, but really pushes the horror movie angle (which of course it is and isn't, like so many Bergmans):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pbh0oTQXmE
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 13 April 2022 13:05 (two years ago) link
Caught it at the GFT last week, it jumped from one of my least favourite Bergman's to one of my favourites
― ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 13 April 2022 13:41 (two years ago) link
While filming "Winter Light" (1963), Ingmar Bergman felt Gunnar Björnstrand was too happy to play the lead character. So, Ingmar asked a doctor to tell Gunnar that he suffered from a severe disease. Gunnar was then put on medication & became very depressed. pic.twitter.com/0zGRfVoTbU— DepressedBergman (@DannyDrinksWine) September 10, 2023
― 50 Best Fellas (Eric H.), Monday, 11 September 2023 22:26 (seven months ago) link