What's the best beer then?

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6X can be very good when kept well, but this is so rare that it rules it out of my reckoning. Pride is good, Fuller's Summer Ale is even better. Favorite ever is Archer's Golden.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh dear lord...

For British beer, I have a ridiculous bias towards Caledonian Breweries, cause not only do they have such yummy beer, but such pretty bottles. And all named after random Scots things as well. So you have BURNS ALE and FLYING SCOTSMEN RUBY RED and things like that. Highly yummy.

For American beer the only drinkable thing is Brooklyn. They make a lovely lager, an amazing ale, an incredible India Pale Ale, and the KING of Brooklyn, the superb Chocolate Stout.

However, country holding the title for yummiest beers would have to be the Netherlands, especially for their wheat beers. (leave those horrid Belgian fruit beers alone!) Hoegaarden rocks my world. Orangeboom is lovely, too. But the best has to be the double and triple brews- there's one called Kasteel or something like that which, surely, is ambrosia in beer form.

Ally would hate every single beer I have mentioned, but then again, Ally is wrong.

masonic boom, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Stones' bitter, but only when hand pulled and then only when within about twenty miles of Sheffield. I've had it down here in London and it tastes like piss, up in south Yorkshire/North east Derbyshire it tastes like pure heaven, when it's looked after that is.

Gambrinus lager was really nice in Prague too.

cabbage, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

At risk of being a snotty-nosed know-all, Hoegaarden is Belgian Kate, a town in fact. 'Dentergems', another belgian wit-beer, is also delicious.

stevo, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Unforntunately most Stones in and around sheffield is electric pump or worse, smoothflow, which means that the beer genrally tatses like the devil's own wee served through dirty pipes. Ward's was very good and generally availible on a choice of hand pull or smooth most places, but the bastards closed tghe brewery down and now its going to be yuppy flats.

Stones is very good when it is good though. Orange is a good colour for a beer label.

Ed Lynch-Bell, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We had a beer world cup. Can't remember who won. Was drunk. Might have been Budvar were it not for a friend of a friend trying to rig it by entering loads of different variations of Miller. To cut a long story short, I generally drink the deeply unfashionable Carlsberg.

Greg, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hoegaarden is BELGIAN??!!? A nonsense! I shall never drink it again!

masonic boom, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tsing Tsao

mark s, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Quilmes - lovely argentine stuff that you could drink 5 litres of, vomit, then drink 5 litres more - occasioanlly hallucinogenic as well

Geoff, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

don't see Orangeboom on tap here much; they have it at the Betsey Trotwood tho!

I love Belgian beer, speshly Chimay (rouge et bleu).

Of British beers, I really go for Cameron Strongarm and Wadworth Farmer's Glory. I used to really like ABC, but they don't brew it anymore.

MarkH, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

This thread is crying out for sub-classification. To talk about lagers, beers, ales and stouts on the same thread - and then to further muddy the water with white beers is madness I tell ya. Not to mention that different beers serve definate purposes. That said - much of what has been mentioned above is good.

Gambrinus can be found in the odd London pub. I suggest The Lord John Russell on Marchmont St near Russell Square for lovers of this Czech beauty. Other European lagers of note are the aforementioned Oranjeboom (the Trotwood or De Hems) - though the current laughable attempt to rehabilitate Lowenbrau is a step too far. British lagers - only one reigns supreme: Youngs Pilsner.

As for Ales, well the Green King IPA is just nudged out of best summer drink by Flowers IPA (though the former is more reliably kept in Green King pubs). Pride can be lip smacker if on, if off its rank. The three Morrells bitters are all pretty good too - especially Varsity. Oh and Black Sheep is a nice one (blagged shed loads at a trade fair a while back so I might be biased). Tim's your man for this one anyway.

Belgium =- Chimay to me. Especially out of the wine bottles with authentik cork popping action. 9% is mey favourite. And De konnick of course - but I do have a soft spot for Cherry beers when alcopops are not an option.

Beers around the world? Tsing Tao is lovely, as is Asahi - but both seem best with food (which is admittedly where I normally have it).

Budweiser = King Of Beers / Budvar = Beer Of Kings. Which would you prefer.

Pete, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

You all are completely wrong, but I like the idea of beer called "Hoegaarden". I'm going to start drinking that so I can say "Hoegaarden". I really hope that's pronounced how I'm pronouncing it - ho-garden. Hos. Hahahaha. Ahem.

Ally, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Being... erm, Belgish, it is actually pronounced something more like "Hcho-harden". Not as fun as it looks.

masonic boom, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ho-garden would be a great name for a girl band.

I love guinness, but if I'm honest but any beer I get for free instantly becomes the best beer.

Nicole, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Nah, that's still fun.

Budvar. Oh, man. I went to this club in Brighton (I think) - cramped, dark, lots of red, big signs over the bar. One said, in big letters, BUDVAR. Ooo, sounds exotic. So I order one. Never mind asking what Budvar actually is - I'm a loner, Dottie, I'm a rebel. (I have no idea where that line is from, by the way.)

God damn it, I hate beer. How the hell did this concept of "beer" develop, anyway? "Gosh, if you soak wheat & barley in water under pressure, it fucks you up righteous like! Kick ass!"

David Raposa, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sapporro, Orangeboom, Budweiser, Old Speckeled Hen, Guiness Stout, Murpheys Irish Stout,Beck's, Red Hook w/ Starbucks', Molson Ice, Sing ha, and Genesee Cream Ale all have found us e in my gullet. But Sadly, dark beers make me puke.

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I find myself drinking a lot of Harpoon and Bass when I go out, despite my favorite beers being the stouts from Guiness and Murphy's and good old Boddington's. However, when I buy beer for home consumption, it is almost exclusively Corona.

I do have a very soft spot for Sapporo and Kirin, though. Ah, college...

Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Corona? You need to live in a place with good weather to enjoy Corona -- another reason to move to LA. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Peroni (great Italian beer served in Pizza Express) and Sam Smith's 'natural' (made with mineral water, of course.)

Andrew L, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hey, I can enjoy a Corona anywhere. It's that good!

(Cue the awful taglines from a commercial thread...)

Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

There is a theory that beer may have been an important trigger in establishing the world's first civilization by the Euphrates. In order to make it you need grain, and by cultivating it in order to produce beer agriculture first developed. Sounds too appealing to be true.

stevo, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anchor Steam is very good. Mmm.. warm day, no job.... laterzzz!

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I like Budweiser. Chugging it in one sip leads to a feeling of drunkenness around the fifth can, due to turning of stomach producing lightheadedness. People who care what beer they're drinking, for reasons other than to complain about it, are stupid.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

People who drink beer, period, are idiots. Beer is disgusting, it's rubbish, it's what you drink if you just have nothing else at all available (and you've run out of your own urine). However, it's a rule that you can't play baseball and not drink beer. I think Derek Jeter drinks in the dugout - it's seriously like a law.

Ally, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Um, I think you're talking about male softball. The beer of sports - seemingly pointless & stupid (since playing baseball is much more fun, obviously), but it's OK in moderation & with the right people, and after you start, you get used to it soon enough.

Baseball = chewing tobacco.

David Raposa, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'll have you, Mr. Perry, that my new coworker Tom Porrino is a Boston native who cast an eye over this thread and agreed with me that the weather was indeed a very good reason to be here. Give in. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Beer sucks big chunks, especially when it's turned into a religion Québec's other religion = hockey, which I also can't stand - or maybe they're both Gods of the same religion - they sure do seem to be tightly connected.

Patrick, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

David sez: "I'm a loner, Dottie, I'm a rebel. (I have no idea where that line is from, by the way.)"

I sez: "It's the title of a song by the Get Up Kids."

I stand by my Coronas. Molson's good tü. Never cared much for the Brooklyn Brewery stuff. I always thought it just tasted like Coors, ergo "Shit."

JM, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Well, yeah, I knew THAT, but I'm guessing they got it from somewhere else, too.

David Raposa, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

David sez: "I'm a loner, Dottie, I'm a rebel. (I have no idea where that line is from, by the way.)" I sez: "It's the title of a song by the Get Up Kids."

And before that, it was a line from Pee Wee's Big Adventure...

Nicole, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Yeah, Ned is right, the weather is one good reason to live in LA, but I am still looking for a second good reason. The local vegatation, perhaps. Oh, wait the lack of mosquitoes, there is reason #2.

Tom Porrino, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pee Wee's Big Adventure - now THAT sounds like a thread to me.

Ally, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I do have relatives there, and proximity to Disneyland could only be a plus in my eyes. Who knows, maybe Joei will end up going to UC- Irvine to get her masters!

Dan Perry, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Then get yer ass in gear. Dammit.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ally can't drink beer due to being too tarty. It makes it too bubbly.

Mike Hanle y, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

What about worst beers? On a few occasions I've been in places that don't have proper bitters, and I've thought 'oh..I'll have Caffreys', but it *always* makes me feel ill.

David, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

the worst beers are my favorite beers. because the only reason im drinking beer is if i want to get drunk for real cheap. bad=cheap, so im stoked. ill drink a 40 of steel reserve any day, 2$ PBR at Doc Holliday's on ave. a, six of natty ice, dollar bud specials...im poor, i want to get drunk. anyone familiar with yuengling??? anyone growing up in pennsylvania goes through the yuengling rites...its actually a pretty good beer though...

amy, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

oo! and i really really really love drinking hard lemonade and smirnoff ice and stuff like that...i dont know what to classify them under...

amy, Thursday, 28 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Mike Hanley just called me a tart! Take it back, you rascal.

Ally, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think Smirnoff Ice is an alcopop. I was quite into that sort of thing (and Bacardi Breezers, what an aspiring Essex girl I am) until my boss told me that's what his 17 year old daughter drinks. In my day it was cider but kids are clearly growing up faster these days.....

Emma, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Alcopops - Classic or Dud is on its way I think....

Pete, Friday, 29 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tarty tart Ally of Tartytown!

Mike Hanley, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

We have bar here called Hoegaarden, done up in motif of that beer. Hence "did you meet your girlfriend at the ho garden?" and even more hilarious madcap japery!! Belgium beers: had (twice) and quite liked Leffe Blonde. Ordered from bargirl thus, "I'll have a leggy blonde" and readily apparent, NOT THE FIRST PERSON TO SAY THAT.

AP, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

The best Belgian beer is Duvel. It tastes lovely and blows your head off in the nicest way possible. After drinking a few bottles around my birthday last year I ended up unable to speak properly, then running shouting through streets, then thinking it would be a good idea to get up at a party and sing Foxgloves and Magnetic Fields songs in front of very minor indie pop stars. It was a fun night. I think.

Ally C, Sunday, 8 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

So do I. And I've never even heard about it till now.

the pinefox, Monday, 9 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

one year passes...
can I put in a good word for Mild? I've had two very good Milds lately, M4, which is brewed by Wychwood, and Home.

MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

Highgate Dark Ale! Highgate Dark Ale! They had some in the Head of Steam t'other ... actually it was yonks ago come to think of it and YUM YUM it were lovely.

If it was possible to hug pubs, I wd hug the Head of Steam.

Sarah (starry), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:26 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hoegaarden, Budweiser, Corona + Lime, Tsing Tsao, Sapporo, Peroni - I drink all of these. I also like Miller, haha. Lots.

David H(owie) (David H(owie)), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:32 (twenty-one years ago) link

BLATZ.

RJG (RJG), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

And Budvaar = crotchming.

David H(owie) (David H(owie)), Thursday, 31 October 2002 16:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

pbr because i can have THIRTY of them for THIRTEEN BUCKS!

sam york, Monday, 8 December 2008 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Per Ian's post above, like Rogue Dead Guy, but I had a couple Rogue Junipers on draft recently, and they were very tasty.

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 18:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Hofbrau Original is my new favorite.

this, absolutely. i wish i could get it here.

runners up: paulaner original, pilsner urquell, spaten
honorable mention: bass, harp, newcastle, smithwick's.
best cheap beer: pbr

modernism, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

we should get develop a catch-all beer thread to make up for the 5 or 6 threads out there...

but in any case, i tasted a pretty insane stout this weekend (and extremely well-balanced one, for a big stout like this):

founders breakfast stout:

http://i.ixnp.com/images/v3.59.2/t.gif (not my photo)

mark cl, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:14 (fifteen years ago) link

weird, didn't show up. anyways it has a baby eating a bowl of oatmeal or something on the bottle, it's a thick, black, opaque stout that's brewed with coffee, chocolate, and oatmeal

mark cl, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Duvel is a perennial favorite.

any if you Nashville folk tried the Yazoo beers? I dig the ESB and the pale ale a lot. They won some big award for their Hefeweizen, but it was prob my least favorite of the bunch. Brewmaster L1nus is first cousins with one of my oldest bros.

my inbox so hot (will), Monday, 8 December 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

grr

mark cl, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i have been digging the sour ales as of late, but they are def a love/hate sort of thing. also less satisfying in the winter death freeze.

MINOTAUR FACEPLANT IS ITS OWN REWARD (John Justen), Monday, 8 December 2008 22:19 (fifteen years ago) link

leinenkugels' honey weisse is pretty pointless, or perhaps I should say it has a lot of "drinkability"

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:21 (fifteen years ago) link

+ thanks to bud light admen for giving me a new term to describe the degree of similarity between a beer and a glass of tap water

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I finally figured out what a "session beer" means.

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

harp is fucking disgusting! omg how can someone say harp...

Coal Scuttle Now Meaningless, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

no idea, takes all kinds

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Schneider Aventinus Weizenbock is the answer to the original question AFAIC. Weisse-style mouthfeel, light enough to drink during the summer but has a hint of cloves at the finish that makes it perfect for right now. 8% abv but you don't taste it. You know that Snoop and Dre video where they are at the house party and some guy opens the fridge and it is filled with 40s? I want to do the same with this beer.

Shh! It's NOT Me!, Monday, 8 December 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

this list is kind of lame but it's partly inspired by drinking nostalgia... the beers that hold that subjective "best" place are pretty much all from my o.g. boozing days

wheat: paulaner dunkel weizen
pale ale: bell's
amber: bell's
brown: bell's
stout: so many of these taste the same to me... something something oatmeal something
lager: leinie's original

Your original display name will be displayed in brackets. (dan m), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I almost never drink stout, but a few of us had the Left Hand Milk Stout last weekend, which is v. drinkable.

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

rotating top 10:

01. Grimbergen (Belgian)
02. Sam Smith's Oatmeal Stout
03. Spaten Optimator
04. Guinness or Muphy's*
05. Bell's Two-Hearted
06. Dogfish Head - the one with raisons
07. Delerium Tremens
08. Red Hook ESB
09. Bell's Porter
10. Fat Tire amber (from Colorado)

*only if fresh from the brewery (i.e. made earlier that day & delivered to a local pub in Dublin or Cork respectively)

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

also just wanted to say how happy I am to see that Bell's is making such a strong showing on this poll. K-zoo reprazent!

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

poll thread

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I've also gotta mention the very refreshing Bell's, since I went to school in Kalamazoo, where it's brewed. Kzoo represent!

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jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

lol appropriate. i did not see that. did you go to WMU or K.College jaymc? I went to KVCC for my freshmen year, but transferred to UM after that. I still return to Kzoo and visit friends on occasion, and invariably spend some time at the Bell's brewery while doing so. Love that place dearly.

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I went to K College. The funny thing is that I didn't turn 21 until March of my senior year, so I've actually spent more time at the brewery on return trips than I ever did when I was a student. Beer on tap there is delicious, and so cheap, too.

jaymc, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

y exactly. I was never able to go the brewery when I lived there - just when I went back for visits. I actually spent the first few rounds of my 21st birthday there.

D'Andrelo, the gay white ex-con (Pillbox), Monday, 8 December 2008 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

rotating cast at the moment:

dogfish head pangaea,
dogfish head palo santo marron,
leinenkugel's fireside nut brown,
cooper's sparkling ale,
paulaner hefeweizen or schneider weisse or weihenstephaner,
sam adams winter lager

think I've mentioned it but the coney island albino python was really good, I hope we see it again but I kind of doubt it

El Tomboto, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

schneider weisse is really good.

for me right now

hoegaarden or that white kronenberg
paulaner wheatbeer and their lager isn't bad either
innis & gunn oak aged beer
and oddly I like heineken in the UK as far as pub beer goes. In Dublin it's a diff brew which is one of my most loathed lagers, but apparently it was relaunched here as a different brew with new taps etc. pretty good stuff.

Coal Scuttle Now Meaningless, Monday, 8 December 2008 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Lately for me:

Leffe Blond
Alaskan IPA / Deschutes Inversion IPA (my usual defaults)
Rogue Yellow Snow
Oaked Arrogant Bastards
Great Divide Hibernation
Unibroue Fin Du Monde
Cans of Olympia

a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Tuesday, 9 December 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

KIRIN ICHIBAN.

the ref (ed hochuli ha ha) (call all destroyer), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:24 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought ILX wasn't started until August '00

usic concrète (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 December 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The most drinkable ones I'm on right now:

Sam Adams Winter Lager (it's everywhere, but it's damn good, slightly hoppy and bitter, kinda spicy, very woody)
Red Hook ESB (solid all around)
Rogue Dead Guy (I bought it by the jug at the beer store)
Full Sail LTD (I don't know the details behind this one but it's so damn drinkable, not too bitter, I want to have gallons and gallons of it)
Most anything by the Dogfish guys

skygreenleopard, Saturday, 20 December 2008 04:50 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm, weird, I think Ally's post is actually the first post of the thread...and hurting's post is actually from sometime later? Maybe something wrong with the db or something?

askance johnson, Saturday, 20 December 2008 05:04 (fifteen years ago) link

2nite i have had

bomber of Rogue Brutal Bitter
2 tallies of Surly Furious

the sun just sent me a text (gbx), Saturday, 20 December 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

regarding beer, I just finished a six pack of New Belgium's 2 Below, which was pretty good. Lots of crazy hop flavor, not a lot of bitterness. I'm looking for some good xmas/winter brews, if anybody has any good recs. Liked the goose island mild winter ale a lot, though I kind of want something less, uh, mild.

askance johnson, Saturday, 20 December 2008 05:06 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm, weird, I think Ally's post is actually the first post of the thread...and hurting's post is actually from sometime later? Maybe something wrong with the db or something?

If I'm not mistaken, a couple of years ago there was this weird thing for a few hours where everyone's post was backdated to June 26, 2001. Maybe it also fucked with threads that were actually started on that date.

total mormon cockblock extravaganza (jaymc), Saturday, 20 December 2008 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

for some reason i've been gravitating towards heineken when no smaller brew strikes my fancy (mainly if i'm not in the mood for a pale ale of some sort) and whenever i decide to buy heineken before i got to the liquor store, i feel good about myself because it's a big brew and will be cheaper but then i remember that it's actually like... $9 for a six pack because it's an "import" - shit is so fake!

(i still buy the heineken anyway)

no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 October 2009 04:54 (fourteen years ago) link

bud >>>>>> heineken!

ian, Saturday, 17 October 2009 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

idk! i'm okay with bud but i think it tastes weird out of bottles. kind of poisonous. and i'm in missouri, we'ere supposed to fuck w budweiser exclusively but idk :-/

no hongro (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 17 October 2009 08:00 (fourteen years ago) link


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