Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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but Rafa's remark was silly considering, amongst other things, the result at Goodison earlier in the season.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Is this the only interesting thing Rafa has ever said?

Pete W (peterw), Monday, 5 February 2007 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Rare moment of wit from Stevie G:

Manchester City midfielder Barton, called up by England for the first time, said in January that Gerrard and Lampard could not play together in the same midfield as they "needed a ball each to succeed".

He also condemned some England players for bringing out autobiographies after the dismal showing in the World Cup last summer, of which Gerrard was one.

But Gerrard added: "I haven't seen Joey yet but I'll give him a knock on his door and present him with a signed copy of the book so he can read it over the next couple of days.

Actually it is not witty at all, but it will have to do.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Lawro suggested Barton be given a signed copy of the book on Football Focus, maybe that's where he got the idea from.

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

That explains it.

At ease.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Barton was very good on Question of Sport last week.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

As in got lots of answers right, or as in Amy Winehouse?

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:36 (seventeen years ago) link

He got lots right!

I was surprised to read, during the transfer window, that Joey is an Evertonian - considering the stick they gave him about his half-brother.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 5 February 2007 14:39 (seventeen years ago) link

He also condemned some England players for bringing out autobiographies

If his complaint had finished here I'd back him to the hilt but otherwise he just sounds like a moany douche who can't find the point

Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Monday, 5 February 2007 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Everton club nickname: The Smalls (from Wikipedia, a few hours ago - now sadly corrected). You've gorra laff.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Monday, 5 February 2007 16:14 (seventeen years ago) link

If his complaint had finished here I'd back him to the hilt but otherwise he just sounds like a moany douche who can't find the point

Exact quote from Joey Barton here. Dude's got a point.

ailsa (ailsa), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Everton club nickname: The Smalls

I've just changed it again to The Cabbage Cats

vita susicivus (blueski), Monday, 5 February 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

It's quite amusing going back through all the changes that have been made (and quickly removed) today to wiki entry. The nickname had reverted back to the rather humdrum 'The Toffees / The Blues' when I looked, so I've changed it to 'The Goodison Giants'.

Sir Tehrance HoBB (the pirate king), Monday, 5 February 2007 22:13 (seventeen years ago) link

The war of words intensifies:

Everton midfielder Lee Carsley says Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez's comment that the Toffees are a small club was a "stupid thing to say".

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Liverpool FC today announced that the Board have agreed the terms of an offer for the Club from Mr George Gillett and Mr Tom Hicks. The Board are unanimously recommending that the Club’s shareholders accept this offer.

At bleeding last. I am slightly troubled at the club being owned by meat billionaires; I hope the shirts don't end up being sponsored by Turkey Twizzlers or whatnot. Still, I suppose they might have endeed up with DIC written across them.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Is it a turn-off to find out your club's not vegetarian?

onimo (onimo), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:35 (seventeen years ago) link

According to this page the only footballer on record as being vegetarian is Phil Babb!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

"genuine scouser" on the radio this morning saying "If it makes us more like Man Utd or Chelsea then it can only be good thing."

I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:43 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.vegsoc.org/news/2000/21cv/headlines.html

Wimbledon FC footballer Robbie Earl is working with the Society by appearing in promotional literature as part of the 'Men and Meat' campaign, to show that leading sports people are vegetarian, including the male of the species.

onimo (onimo), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Phil K Babb?

Meat billionaires! Shirts red with the blood of slaughtered cattle. Enduring image.

I wonder if they own Hafnia?

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago) link

A friend of mine, and ours, at the weekend, was saying something about the new owners of Liverpool being involved with President Bush, and he balefully invoked the name of Derek Hatton, by way of wondering what had happened to the people of Liverpool that they'd welcome one of their teams passing into such hands.

I haven't seen the article in which he learned about these connections, and don't know whether or not they're true.

Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, Hatton is a Blue. I remember him lobbying for Adrian Heath's inclusion in the England squad on Question Time! He's probably not surprised at the Red state/Red shirt tie-up.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago) link

The connection between Tom Hicks and President Bush has long been a source of public speculation. Tom Hicks served on the Board of Regents of the University of Texas System and as chairman of UTIMCO. Under his direction, UTIMCO placed a large portion of the university's endowment under the management of companies with strong ties to Bush.

:(

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:08 (seventeen years ago) link

There just aren't that many ideologically-sound billionaires about, are there? And "beggars" can't be choosers.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I understand Gillett is a big Giuliani '08 boosterback (or backbooster if you prefer).

vita susicivus (blueski), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I was hoping George Soros might put in a bid :/

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:13 (seventeen years ago) link

I have a sneaking suspicion that Randy Lerner is some kind of born again Christian fundamentalist.

However, the reason for me thinking this is he invited Ron Saunders back, and he is a born again Christian fundamentalist.

What on earth am I talking about? I don't know.

(That was my Martin O'Neill impersonation.)

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:34 (seventeen years ago) link

The moment Babb lost his appetite for meat and taters.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=dONtFBuCztM

Pete W (peterw), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Priceless finale, PJM.

It's true, they are into both Dubya and Giuliani. I agree that you don't expect billionaires to be nice, but it would help if these ones were tactfully discreet and enigmatic about their views.

My sense was that Benitez didn't call Everton a small club: he said (something like:) they had done what you would expect a small club to do - which is not really the same thing. Yet I have read in more than one newspaper that he made a point of going around and sounding off on this point repeatedly, so perhaps my judgement is too generous.

I think that Moyes said that Everton were 'one of the big clubs in England', didn't he? I think I agree with him. Possibly even one of the great clubs of Europe.

the pinefox (the pinefox), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I think perhaps Benitez is lacking in "hinterland".

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 16:07 (seventeen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/6183791.stm

...But Liverpool's new co-owner George Gillett denied the attraction was to take advantage.

"If you were to put down the list of objectives we have, money would be nowhere near the top," he said when announcing their Anfield arrival to a room of cynical onlookers.

"It would start with winning, it would start with passion, it would have respect for tradition and history. It would have the word legacy very near the top and it would have the word thank you to David Moores for giving us the chance to own this wonderful franchise and hopefully add to its history."

Kind of spoils it there

Sir Tehrance HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 00:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, etc.

I can't find the picture I saw on someone's back page, which I would have amusingly captioned "No, he's the one with the short fat hairy legs". But you have probably all seen it and thought the same thing. Or perhaps you thougth something better.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 08:15 (seventeen years ago) link

PS: Stevie G left his book outside Joey B's hotel room!

PPS: It was Lampard who was really mardy about Joey B's comments.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 08:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Gerrard's been as critical of other England players as Barton anyway.

vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Kind of spoils it there

-- Sir Tehrance HoBB (j__...), February 6th, 2007. (later)

Oh well, if we're top of the table this time next year we can stop giving a toss anyhow right?

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Tho if Chelsea return to form money has ruined football again

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The Pinefox seemed to be suggesting that the new owners should be concealing their political views because they may be considered odious by many. I don't see why really, I mean best to just have it out there surely. Plus the press would pick up on it regardless of any attempts to be discreet or 'enigmatic', esp. as they are Damn Yankess.

vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:44 (seventeen years ago) link

contrast to the generally positive views of randy lerner

Friendly Tree (688), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there an AFC thread?

www.afcwimbledon.co.uk/news.php?Psection_id=2&Psub_section_id=1&Open=2449

Pete W (peterw), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Is there an AFC thread?
Not exactly, but that points deduction was discussed here:
http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=7168271

Oh well, if we're top of the table this time next year we can stop giving a toss anyhow right?

Don't worry - it's still fucked. I've just tried to limit my grumbling (or do it in other places) to avoid sounding like a single-issue madman.

"genuine scouser" on the radio this morning saying "If it makes us more like Man Utd or Chelsea then it can only be good thing."
-- I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo.cowpat@---.com), February 6th, 2007 12:43 PM.

It's taken me quite a while to realise that business about the trumpet and the lesbian is a new username, and not a baffling response to the thoughts of the scouser.

Sir Tehrance HoBB (the pirate king), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

it's ok he'll change his screen name when he graduates.

onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

and stop being a dyke?

vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

sorry i mis-read/doublezinged, disregard

vita susicivus (blueski), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Doublezinging is fine, just a bit of a joke, everything's cool.

I suspect my screen name will change again after the next TV Burp.

I don't know whether to play the trumpet, read a book or be a lesbian. (aldo_cow, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 15:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Randy Lerner scores a lot of points just for being quiet and unassuming compared to his predecessor. Charles Krulak is a general and has killed people* but has an endearing manner and spends half the week on Villa message boards going "you want me to open an extra turnstile at the Lower Holte entrance? Sure, why not?".

Benitez seemed to be sort of revelling in the petty spite of the small club remark when he made it, but I may be misremembering it.

We need more comedy loose cannons in football, though I do not approve of Barton's cigar stubbing antics.

*possibly not directly, with his bare hands

Michael Philip Philip Philip Philip Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 8 February 2007 10:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Randy Lerner watch:

Evidence of possible Christianity:

"But we are not changing the name Villa Park - and we are also not opening a super casino. We are not in the casino business. In fact, I have never been inside a casino."

See? I told you so.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

eight months pass...

We really are woeful. Completely outplayed until the penalty. At least we managed to string some passes together then. I guess the second penalty was a goal we fashioned from open play but still, wouldn't inspire you with confidence. Leiva looks pretty good.

Even I must apologise to Michael Jones for that last decision. No doubt it was a penalty. Possibly the one earlier too with Finnan.

Ronan, Saturday, 20 October 2007 13:47 (sixteen years ago) link

What's the opposite of schadenfreude? Gluckschmerz?

Stevie T, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Worst refereeing ever.

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link

</pfunkboy>

Dom Passantino, Saturday, 20 October 2007 14:32 (sixteen years ago) link


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