People who talk about music but don't own a record player: C/D

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I DON'T KNOW HOW TO STOP

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Vinyl is fun for the people who can afford it or care about it. That's all I'm trying to say, and really what else can you say about it?

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link

This record is so good, it's hard to believe Brian Eno didn't produce it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:07 (eighteen years ago) link

i only listen to music by training my brain to remember the notes of a song through mnemonics.

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's great for people who didn't grow up with vinyl to be experiencing it. It is a whole different experience, from the album art to the involvement; eg turning the record over, hearing pops, the uneven speed of turntables.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This record is so good, it's hard to believe Brian Eno didn't produce it.

What are you talking about, you TEMPTER you? :(

Hydrochloric Shaved Weirds (Bimble...), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Peter Gabriel, man. Third album. Like I said.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

the uneven speed of turntables

I've never had that. Sounds like a bad turntable.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:19 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not going to read through this whole thread--I've already ready more than enough--but I would like to emphasize that vinyl seems very impractical to some of us.

To begin with, I can't see spending money on a decent stereo system right now. Until I move into a house (which may never happen), I don't want to start collecting something like vinyl, something more which needs to be lugged around. (I don't move myself, but having lots of stuff is still really painful when you move around a lot, or it is for me anyway.)

Much of what interests me most probably wouldn't be available on cheap vinyl anywhere near me. I'm not buying used vinyl without looking at it first, either. I'm not interested in bargain-hunting. I don't enjoy the process. I used to spend lots of time in used bookstores (and some time in used record stores), but I don't find that a very attractive way to spend time any more. (If anything, going to flea markets seems like it would be even more tedious, but I guess once you know where to go, it's not so bad.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link

I like records though I'd like 'em more if I had the wherewithal to figure out how to transfer stuff to mp3 so I could share them with friends (esp. since pals aren't rocking cassette players much these days. blech.)

miccio (miccio), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Kenan back in the day, the AM hits radio stations would speed up their turntables every so slightly so they could get more commercials in. When you came home, the record sounded different from the way it did on the radio. Take it to a friend's house, with a different turntable, it may have also been slightly fast or slow, just a tad, but enough to notice if you are paying attention.

In my first band, when I was 17, the guitarist couldn't afford an electronic tuner for his guitar, and we couldn't either. He tuned to the E at the start of the Who's I Can See for Miles. Then we all tuned to him (I played bass). Well, after we got a little more sophisticated and got tuners, we realized that we had been tuning half a step up because his turntable was slightly fast. Everyone thought we were all experimental and shit, but we were just morons and victims of turntable variability.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Nice.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Premise of this thread: Dud.

I grew up with a fucking record player, and I've only not had one for maybe 8 years of my life. As it so happens, I'm getting one again (my late grandfather's, along with his hi-fi system), and I'm happy that I am, but I don't see that I enjoyed music any less or was any less able to discuss it when I didn't.

Honestly, during that time I couldn't have afforded something that would have brought out any of the sonic advantages of a record anyhow, and the one time I did experiment with a cheap turntable and speaker set I was so disgusted by the sound that I never used it again. Unless you have fairly good equipment, CDs are going to sound considerably better than records.

As a side note, I hate it when this sort of arbitrary stupidity is called "snobbery" -- it implies that the person being targeted actually does have some kind of superior knowledge or values.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link

As a side note, I hate it when this sort of arbitrary stupidity is called "snobbery" -- it implies that the person being targeted actually does have some kind of superior knowledge or values.

I'm hesiatant to call myself stupid, as I would be, but you're right otherwise. I have no superior anything.

Also, oh shit this record is good. Just bought it. Robert Fripp - Network. It's kind of a single. Four songs. One has Daryl Hall (don't laugh), one has Peter Gabriel (doing a version of "Here Comes The Flood" that I've never heard), and one has David Byrne ("I am am resplendent in divengence"). Never would have found these songs on CD, bra. Not even if they'd been released there.

Vinyl!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, and side one is dripping with Eno.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

ew!

miccio (miccio), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't mean to suggest that you were stupid, Paunchy, only that you were being stupid.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link

I phrased the initial question badly, I admit.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:14 (eighteen years ago) link

And yet, I still think every music lover needs a turntable. I really believe that.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:15 (eighteen years ago) link

you need an uncoiffed vagina.

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link

?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:19 (eighteen years ago) link

vaginas get hairdos? that's a new one. are you stoned, mr. bloomer?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

new? it's as old as time itself

shine headlights on me (electricsound), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link

OMG Orbit has an uncoiffed cooter.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Unless you have fairly good equipment, CDs are going to sound considerably better than records.

Is this ever wrong.

but the word vagina refers to the interior--there IS NO HAIR
HEELOOOO the world has gone insane!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Unless you have fairly good equipment, CDs are going to sound considerably better than records.

Is this ever wrong.

YES. YES IT IS EVER WRONG. Good vinyl sounds great, better than 192kbps MP3s every day of the week and twice on Tuesday.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link

You're fucking fooling yourself.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link

If you enjoy that "warm" snappy crackly pop, that's fine, but it's just a matter of nostalgic attachment, not sound quality.

Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link

You guys are ok in my book, you know, cool guys and all that. But you're just so wrong about this.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link

?

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...), July 18th, 2005.

JESUS LAUGHS

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 02:59 (eighteen years ago) link

YEAH, IM PRETTY BORED Tonite.

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:06 (eighteen years ago) link

"Care not my children what format an album is on, for those who *cough*...what was i sayin'?"

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I've lost track of who is taking the piss and who isn't.
So have I. Lost on my own thread.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Just come over and play me some records. It'll be ok.

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link

ILX: bringing people together.

latebloomer: lazy r people (latebloomer), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link

We...
Are young but gettin gold before our time...
We'll leave the TV and the radio behind...

Joe Jackson (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link

haha gold = old

We'd all like to get golder, I guess

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Anyway, I love Orbit.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Aw shucks, Keeennnaaannnn! Bring your turntable hither!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I can't. Already found the perfect spot for it. But I do like you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 18 July 2005 03:53 (eighteen years ago) link

I have TWO turntables ... it's twice as nice over here, ladies.
Barry, You have a special place in my heart for your keen mind and physics background.

I love my Kenan, he has a special place in my heart with his goofy but impossibly hip shirts.

I suggest a record playing slumber party (NO DIRTY MINDS!)

But we have to invite Rickey Wright, too.

Hooray for the vinyl-playing slumber party a la Doris Day!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Interests: vinyl, making out, dance parties

OLD SPICEĀ® CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ex machina), Monday, 18 July 2005 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link

Vinyl slumber party FAP!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 18 July 2005 04:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I think there are some really high quality turntables you can buy new - like a lower level Rega, for example - in the $300-$400 dollar range. And you can probably get used ones for cheaper on eBay. I've got this Pioneer from the '70s or '80s I was fortunate enough to find in a thrift store for like $25. Plays at the right speed and w/ a sharp needle sounds great.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Monday, 18 July 2005 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't own a record player. Sometimes I wish I did, same as I wish my tape player worked and same as I wish I would one day get round to dusting off my MDs and listening to all those. I like CDs. I can make compilations and give them to friends. I can carry them round and listen to them on my walkman. They fit in my bedroom good.
I do have a few bits of vinyl that I am sad I can't play and which I have a hard time tracking down on other formats, but I don't see myslef as any less of a music fan.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 18 July 2005 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I barely ever go to gigs either. Does that make me a bad music fan?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 18 July 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link


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