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I don't remember what thread we had the discussion on but I was up on this point that pop isn't contra-rock, or contra-classical, or this or that. Pop is at once a subset of "everything else" and the opposite of "everything else" b/c even though you can say "this pop track is rock" you can also say "this track isn't rock -- it's pop!" and they're both true. pop is like a meta-genric social use category.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
eight years pass...
I'm remembering this thread fondly after finally meeting Mark S in person at EMP Pop 2014. This same debate is still totally going on, unsurprisingly, fueled by recent grouchy screeds in curmudgeonly newspapers, and was addressed or alluded to by multiple speakers at the conference today.
I think it may be close to true that I've changed sides on this topic, sort of, in the years since. Or maybe the sides have changed. Or maybe I've stopped caring. Or maybe I've just stopped thinking I have any idea how one "should" write about music. But the music, at least, seems better than ever.
Anyway, hello to our adorable touchy younger selves so earnestly trying to fix each other's misconceptions right away. Should have just been patient.
― glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 26 April 2014 01:43 (nine years ago) link