2001: A Space Odyssey

That's kinda the point (or one of them) -- the characters are all caught up in being concerned with their phones and their zero-g toilets and their Hilton lounge meetings and their turkey sandwiches that they can't be bothered to spare a moment to be amazed by the fact that they LIVE IN OUTER SPACE. None of the 21st-century humans in the movie have learned yet to look beyond their mundane tools and machines to something transcendent, and when they do find something amazing -- the Tycho monolith -- they line up to take touristy pictures in front of it.

i liked it!

Just remembered this recent news about the jettisoned prologue:

http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/film/news/article321643.ece

But not ethically, or metaphysically.

x-post I always liked that Tarkovsky moved the material w/Berton up front rather than revealing it in the middle.

j/k. i like the book a lot.

xpost- yeah i've never really known the whole chronology, tho i think he explains it in the introduction. but the thing is, if the shooting was finished, he prolly would've written them as going to jupiter instead, but what do i know?

HAL is very well done. In the book it's mentioned that he's neural-net-based,
which was a very radical thing to say in the late 60s, but dead-on.

well clarke was pretty hot on anticipating new technologies.

Alas, the Pan Am logo on the Floyd craft always gets a laugh now.

sergei eisenstein on 'paris, texas' and ingmar bergman on 'beverley hills cop' would have made '83-'84 a different time.

the reason why i used the two examples i did(even if i did overstate the "different time" bit) was not to grab two random examples out of the air, but that Jodorowsky and Lynch where the original directors of those two flicks. there was even plenty of design work that went into Dune with Jodorowsky at the helm(as mentioned upthread). And that both versions differently wildly from their initial planning(Ewoks were added, Dali was removed, etc).

Of course, Jodorowsky probably wouldn't have had the wizard of oz references or jack nance in the final version, etc

in terms of just grabbing wildly different directors and inappropiate film choices: i'd pay good money for
-Roman Polanski's "Disorderlies"
-John Woo's "Out of Africa"(or even "The Natural")

now, in regards to the current convo, what was the name of the phone company used in 2001? was it Bell?

2001 Supernerd Final Jeopardy: What's the first line of dialogue? (I can only guess)

And the last line? Floyd on tape [sic]: "[blah blah monolith], its origin...unknown"?

Bullitt not haf toomuch dialog for Noisedik to grow rezless?

And they make a biiIIIIIiiggggg deal about moving the portable airport tunnel thingy over to the airplane, to show that THIS is the future! No more having to climb stairs, people!

There's a lot of that in the movie, including that one extended bit about what a fax machine is.

And the painted ponies go up and down...

Also, Roy Scheider in space! Bob Balaban & John Lithgow in the same movie! Candice Bergen as the SAL 9000! Dude had dolphins in his living room!

Candice Bergen as the SAL 9000!

I'm afraid to verify this!