Screamadelica: the poll

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How to do a frankly BRILLIANT remix of PRML SCRM every time:

-Grab the bass riff. That will always be brilliant. Loop it and boost the sub-bass.
-Grab the guitar riff. Run it through a huge amount of delay and reverb so it's really psychedelic
-Add some wibble and sparkly psychedelic noises
-Erase as MUCH of Bobby Gillespie's voice as you can possibly get away with. The occasional "woo!" or "alright!" is OK but you do not want to allow him anything even approximating a tune
-Add some melodica to remind everyone how much they'd love to be New Order, if they were really from Manchester, maaaaaan
-Add some samples that scream "LSD!" - biker flicks or Indian strings or free jazz noise and sprinkle them in liberally

Now you're done. Stand back and watch the indie disco floor fill up.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Evil Heat's not a BAD record per se, just lacklustre after XTRMNTR.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Evil Heat is OK

mdskltr (blueski), Monday, 22 February 2010 11:59 (fourteen years ago) link

It's utterly brilliant compared to Riot City Blues ha ha.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually just put on Evil Heat and I had forgotten Deep Hit Of The Morning Sun was on this and not XTRMNTR. Oops.

The more I listen, the more I'm convinced that if this album were released a no vocals dub version I'd love it. But we're still on singles and haven't got to the album tracks yet.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:16 (fourteen years ago) link

DHOMS is pretty excellent, aye. The lead single was alright, too.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 22 February 2010 12:30 (fourteen years ago) link

At MBVATP I left the actually-a-bit-boring Yo La Tengo to watch PS and they played XTRMNTR which was great but then they played something off one of the last two albums and it was awful, and then followed it with something else post-Evil Heat so I left.

They were awesome live when Kevin Shields was playing with them though.

useless chamber, Monday, 22 February 2010 12:48 (fourteen years ago) link

I actually just had to check that the last song was Bobby G whinging semi-soulfully and not Jason Pierce. That isn't a good sign.

There's Always Been A Dance Element To (Masonic Boom), Monday, 22 February 2010 13:13 (fourteen years ago) link

The more I listen, the more I'm convinced that if this album were released a no vocals dub version I'd love it.

suspect i am the only person who listens to echodek more than any primal scream proper album ?

mark e, Monday, 22 February 2010 13:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I really really like Echo Dek, great little underappreciated semi-album!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 February 2010 14:23 (fourteen years ago) link

absolutely not, Echo Dek is by far my favorite Primal Scream disc. Head and shoulders above the other PS albums and one of the best 'dubs' of any album i've ever heard.

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 22 February 2010 14:36 (fourteen years ago) link

'Vanishing Point' is the one for me. Some of the best and most inventive stereo panning I've heard, which is good because some of the songs are quite weak.

Seen the Scream plenty of times throughout the years. The best was probably on the 'Evil Heat' tour, despite the fact I'm not a huge fan of the album, it was great to see Kevin Shields. Thought it would've been the only chance to see him back then.

AnotherDeadHero, Monday, 22 February 2010 16:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Too bad we can't count on stereo panning to save more bad albums...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 22 February 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Kate's remix summary* pretty nicely describes the recent Weatherall Uptown version

*bar the bemusing melodica line. Pablo was on the OG Star, and how much did New Order use melodica?

Saw them a year ago last weekend and they were good except a) everything off the last two and b) EVERY SONG had to turn into a blues jam at the end, even Higher Than The Sun

you live in a space battle homo cave (sic), Monday, 22 February 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

from twitter :

jagzkooner Oh and just to reiterate, the primal scream "screamadelica live" gig at earls court is a 1 off only, and WONT be repeated ever again.

mark e, Tuesday, 23 February 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

(those five Suede gigs I mentioned were in 2003, I just found out to my horror when I read the flier for their upcoming reunion)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 14:01 (fourteen years ago) link

whoever picked that photo wants shooting.

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

And those are their first gigs for 10 years?

Mark G, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link

that exact line up +1 other random played Glastonbury 2003. it was godawful aswell.

piscesx, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

'as well'? Bit harsh on the gigs that haven't taken place yet

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXBWhYFS1Ao

Cunga, Thursday, 14 October 2010 16:59 (thirteen years ago) link

blocked

i was like a person at a table at a place (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:02 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow. This poll is totally backwards. Come Together is the worst song on here (along with Movin' on Up), and Coming Down is among the best.

Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:34 (thirteen years ago) link

BOOOOM

Ain't Too Proud to Neg (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 October 2010 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/31/primal-scream-screamadelica-live

Brilliant stuff in here from this morning's Observer. 'Anyone seen Smiler?' The whole house stood up."

piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 05:23 (thirteen years ago) link

The article author seems to be really impressed and excited at any mention of drugs.

Just to take a couple of instances out of many mentions which don't add anything much to the article:

The gentler charms of "Damaged", "Shine Like Stars" and "Inner Flight" completed proceedings. Duffy was tripping on acid for the latter recording.

...Screamadelica was released on 23 September 1991, the cover a trippy image of the Sun created by Paul Cannell, another of the band's associates who was allegedly inspired by a damp patch he'd seen on the Creation offices ceiling after taking acid

and a whole quote from Q magazine:

In December, Miranda Sawyer reported for Q magazine on the band's rider at Barrowland in Glasgow: "Tonight's menu includes: 'glug' (methadone, a soporific heroin substitute); ecstasy (inhibition-dismissing, dancefloor friendly 'love' drug); amphetamine sulphate; magic mushrooms; cocaine and ā€“ backstage staple ā€“ hash. The varied and various mood alterants are liberally distributed among the tour regulars. 'You know,' muses Bobby, 'it was a love of music that brought us all together and that's what we really get excited about. But we also get excited when the drugs turn up... really excited.'"

Bob Six, Sunday, 31 October 2010 10:41 (thirteen years ago) link

Bobby Gillespie, waifish ringmaster of Primal Scream, who is dressed, none the less, all in black: black skinny jeans, black T-shirt, long black hair, only streaks of grey making him look any older than he did 20 years ago.

Um, no.

As someone who is rather an expert in what Bobby G looked like 20 year ago, um, really.... no.

Wheal Dream, Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:11 (thirteen years ago) link

Problem is, any time that I start to read any words that come out of Bobby Gillespie's mouth, I start to love that album a little less. Which is a real shame, so I try to avoid the interviews.

Wheal Dream, Sunday, 31 October 2010 11:20 (thirteen years ago) link

"Problem is, any time that I start to read any words that come out of Bobby Gillespie's mouth, I start to love that album a little less. Which is a real shame, so I try to avoid the interviews."

Typically a good idea for any musician one likes...

skip, Sunday, 31 October 2010 15:57 (thirteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://cdn.pitchfork.com/media/screamadelica452.jpg

piscesx, Saturday, 27 November 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i like primary colours

i look at the interior of my sack and feel sad (ilxor), Saturday, 27 November 2010 06:22 (thirteen years ago) link

Round Boxes, whoo!

Mark G, Monday, 29 November 2010 10:58 (thirteen years ago) link

six months pass...

From the DVD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI_XAFqvkpw

Stockhausen's Ekranoplan Quartet (Elvis Telecom), Saturday, 4 June 2011 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

I've fallen in love with 'higher than the sun' since the reissue. Bobby's such a weak singer but somehow transcends this on many points throughout screamadelica. Love the melismatic delivery of the line 'what I've got in my head you can't buy'. Also love the 7" version of come together for similar reasons.

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:36 (twelve years ago) link

Funny how people upthread are saying this sounds dated - they're not wrong, but this is the first sign of a full scale stylistic revival

broodje kroket (dog latin), Saturday, 4 June 2011 07:37 (twelve years ago) link

The Screamadelica EP (with the eponymous track) is as good as anything they ever did, and still sounds great.

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Whoops, Dixie Narco EP I mean. Track is called "Screamadelica"

broom air, Sunday, 5 June 2011 01:47 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Classic Albums - Screamadelica

john. a resident of chicago., Tuesday, 28 June 2011 09:00 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

perfect timing Scik as i'm about to see them in a few days here in Los Angeles.

Bee OK, Saturday, 28 September 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

six years pass...

RIP Denise Johnson

https://louderthanwar.com/denice-johnson-much-loved-manchester-and-primal-scream-singer-rip/

Oor Neechy, Monday, 27 July 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

RIP Denise. This is great.

visiting, Monday, 27 July 2020 18:32 (three years ago) link

Really cool interview, thanks Visiting

Sad about this, she was so great with Primal Scream back in the day

Was just thinking about her solo single the other day. I bought it as a cassingle!

umsworth (emsworth), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

listening again thanks to lorde and "higher than the sun" is really one of the coolest psych-rock tracks of all time, wish they'd done a whole album with the orb

ufo, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:48 (two years ago) link

Yep, the best thing here.

Tim F, Sunday, 13 June 2021 08:50 (two years ago) link

Hell yes, altho Iā€™m partial to Shine Like Stars for similar reasons

assert (matttkkkk), Sunday, 13 June 2021 09:35 (two years ago) link

there are some cool sounds here but it doesn't hang together really does it? maybe you had to be there (like with the stone roses album)

there is also something a bit off that I can't really articulate about the way so many white british bands used gospel in this era

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:51 (two years ago) link

it's also hard for me to hear this band without thinking "you wankers" - maybe I'd like it more if there was a different name on the cover

Left, Sunday, 13 June 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link

Funnily enough, their name isn't on the cover.

Mark G, Sunday, 13 June 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link


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