Rudimentary Peni VS Flux of Pink Indians

Death Church was a 'best of both worlds' type album for metalheads who wouldn't listen to stuff this punky and punks who wouldn't listen to stuff this metally. Plus i mean "when you're in a martian church"!!!

it seems like cacophony is fucking impossible to find on vinyl. :(

Still can't choose between these 2 bands but Flux Of Pink Indians were really great at their reunion gig last year, they really nailed the guitar sound, it was exactly as tinny and awesome as on the records, and Sid from Rubella Ballet hopped on drums for Tube Disasters (twice!) as he played on the original. Never seen Peni live but they hardly ever played live AFAIK

xp re: Cacophony

yeah the bassist hates it! Discogs has one from Australia for $40... I don't think it's even being kept in print by the band. check out the Mark Prindle reviews for more sad info.

Finally found Cacophony and it is plain great.
Horrors In The Museum is such a great song.

went down memory lane with both of these bands on my hi-fi a week or two ago. i was drunk, of course. always sound great. always inspiring.

NIGHTGAUNTS
NIGHTGAUNTS

Every band should have a Lovecraft-inspired in their discography.

Cthulhu Fhtagn!

Flux owns Rudi anyday, for one Flux was real, the drummer of Rudi ate meat, which is bullshit. So in closing, Flux owns.

MarxyBoy

― |-|4x0|7, Monday, 25 August 2003 04:23 (8 years ago) Permalink

this was awesome

love both these bands

let's not forget about how wonderful nick blinko's artwork is

http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/7945312223037641.jpeg

http://www.outsiderart.co.uk/blinko/large/blinko8.jpg

some weird sonics on this remastered version of Cacophony...

I mean, it's great to have this back in print again, and I'm glad the band is receptive to that (finally), but it sounds to me like the guitars are up and the vocals are down - which is not what I really want from this record.

Haven't heard the remaster since I have original pressings I bought new in the 80s. Been curious though... At least they restored the proper artwork.

John Loder may be turning in his grave if it really sounds that off...

my thought on listening further was that somebody brickwalled the tapes and then pressed it to vinyl. haven't heard the new CD but I have old CD and LP both since it is one of my favorite records ever. the new gatefold LP cover is very nice!

I've been meaning to get into them for a while; should I get the remasters? I tend to always go for the newest and cheapest versions.

If you can find originals for something close to the price of a new one, I'd stick with the originals based on my (limited) listening experience. I should really try to put up an A-B comparison on Soundcloud so other folks can comment.

Used CD should be easy to find. These were produced really well in the first place.

ohhh man they brickwalled the fuck out of this, check the waveforms:

https://soundcloud.com/sleeve-the-dj/sets/rudi-peni-comparison

(new LP remaster is the second track)

via Prindle website, for posterity:

Okay, it's Grant's fault. View these quotes from Ian Glasper's excellent 2006 book The Day The Country Died: A History of Anarcho Punk 1980-1984:

"My favourite release is definitely Cacophony." - Nick Blinko

"For me, (Cacophony) was the most interesting thing that we had done musically, in terms of all those weird time signatures, and the lyrics are fascinating... even if I don't understand all of them! I just think that the band as a whole put in a really good performance, and it was the best thing Nick has ever done vocally; I think he was at the absolute pinnacle of his creativity on that album." - Jon Greville

"The different style of Cacophony was not intended. It just came out that way, and in retrospect I regard it as a move in the wrong direction, into self-indulgence. As a result of that, in recent years, I have pushed to build upon and improve the more 'traditional' Peni style." - Grant Matthews

Thanks a lot, ASSHOLE.

Thanks for the information.

I really taken my time on finally listening to that soundcloud comparison. They all sound fine to me but I'm not an audiophile.

subhumans reissues were so terrible. i don't even want to know about the crass reissues on cd. if some of the most perfectly recorded records ever made were fucked up somehow for cd it would be sad indeed. best to stick with old pressings. peni records are amazing in their natural form. same with flux. you can't improve on that stuff.

Nick Blinko might just be my favorite punk vocalist. finally getting around to buying Cacophony, though used to play the shit out of Death Church.

You have EPs of RP right? Because that shit is GRRRRREAAAATTTTT

actually I need that one too.

holy shit

tt has introduced me to rudimentary peni. death church was really good but CACOPHONY oh my giddy fuck

Peni is the best band of all time.

this album/band is just...i can't even

incredible

carnivores are like tombstones

It's too bad Nate C doesn't hang out anymore-- he wrote an entire in depth treatment on cacophony which he submitted to 33 1/3 one year

Never got published?

Peni is one of those bands from the first Sublime album that I kept meaning to check out but never did.

Xpost not by 33 1/3 but maybe he placed it elsewhere

imago I am very glad you are getting yr head ripped open by this masterpiece

keen to see what you make of the RP album about the imaginary pope

it's great and the songs are intense as hell, it would be improved slightly by curbing that fucking papus adrianus thing, but i guess you can't fuck with the artist's vision idk

aaaaactually it's just as good as cacophony p much, which makes it one of the best things ever

I HATED that record, I guess I will try again

it ain't no Cacophony, though, chill dude :)

it's beautiful, furious, quite quite mad but also perfect for midsummer

quite apart from anything else the instrumentation is monumental, possibly his best riffs ever underpinned by a seriously and understandably pissed-off rhythm section. and like all the best heatstrokes all the songs linger on and on until you're entranced & damaged beyond repair

....and now I'm listening to The Fucking Cunts Treat Us Like Pricks

fuck me it's AWESOME

'The Falklands War' is...monumental

Pope Adrian 37th Psychristiatric is firmly ensconced as my summer solstice album :)

Peni is one of those bands from the first Sublime album that I kept meaning to check out but never did.

― how's life, Thursday, 29 September 2016 23:46 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol tbh I'm not really sure if I've ever heard a song by Sublime, but I gather they are somewhat different to Rudimentary Peni

this thread reminded me of the sad fact I missed seeing my friends' Rudi Peni cover band last year because I was sick and depressed.

POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE
POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE, POGO POPE
POGO POPE POGO, POGO POPE POGO
POGO POPE POGO, POGO POPE POGO

I don't think I'm ever going to "get" that record, I still find it unlistenable :(

love all the rest of course