Bob Dylan's punk period

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Hi again,
I don’t want to overstay my welcome, but I’d like to add a few bits of rambling trivia as a little follow-up here.
Firstly, I do thank you for your kind enthusiasms. We are all big Dylan fans, no doubt.

It's odd and funny to me now, I have often thought that our 2nd gig with this same band would have been just great after this quirky not-so-little-nationally-televised-warm-up. haha! Unfortunately or not, that NEXT gig just never transpired. As you might already know, there WAS to be a somewhat incognito (non-"Dylan") South American tour with Mr.D & us 3… plus maybe a couple more members added later... who knows?... and yes, THAT would have been great fun for all. I am quite sure of that! That tour with us obviously did not happen due to the sudden big-time Real Live European tour done with way more seasoned pros of the time, quite naturally. Our tour-that-never-happened is in fact the reason we were playing together at all in the first place… as well as the fact that I believe Dylan was curious and exploring just what was going on out in the streets with various younger musicians at the time. This after maybe feeling a bit less in touch with it all in his most recent, prior years. I think it was a pretty cool move on his part. In retrospect, by all accounts WE had a very unique & personal experience with the man in our casual get-togethers up in Malibu. I cherish this very lucky period of time I was able to spend, at such a young age and with such a great artist as Bob Dylan. We had done a series of casual and scattered jams that he had scheduled with us over a period of a couple/few months before this one-time appearance. During those, I learned a lot by just observing what was going on in the room, as we played and in between. HE was more than gracious to me at all times… both as a young guitarist trying to find a style and as a fledging young human being for that matter… and he was the same to the other guys too, from all I saw. I greatly admire him. He was really good in that way with younger cats, in the same tradition as were many older Southern blues musicians I myself had sought out at an even younger age, being the huge country-blues fan I was and still am. I put Dylan in the same highly regarded league as all those other other heroes of mine. It is all in the great tradition of our Folk musics around the world. I have since taken similar care with younger musicians I've met along the way as well for this same reason. It IS important to pass the torch on I believe... as an artist, as a musician and as a human being in society. ....ha!... sorry for my philosophical soapbox… I digress… ha! Anyway… I have read all sorts of comments and information out there and that friends have sent to me over the years about this one-time, fluky appearance on TV... of all places.... ha! ... some of it is quite insightful and correct & some is quite the opposite & rather misinformed. Such is life.

All I can say is that this period of time is that it was a wonderful moment for me personally, filled with great memories. I am proud of it all, with all it's flaws and bumps and live energy. No other artist I know of would be so bold as he was then to risk-the-biscuit with a bunch of rag-tags as we were then. I applaud it. There is a great story I've just recently learned of behind that famous incorrect harp he is handed... Tony Marsico, the bassist, has a small indie semi-bio book out where his research describes that particular and more. You can find it for sale out there with a little digging. It is fascinating. Dylan has had a super-great core band for many years now and I love that he does, and I think that is something he shines best in front of. I saw him fairly recently at the Palladium in Hollywood.... a GREAT show it was.

As a sidelight: In addition to playing music these days with the organizations or films or whatever mentioned above, I am now also part of a certain film production company in L.A. and through it much of this particular experience from 1983-4 has come full-circle for me personally in some very strange & unexpected ways. Life is a great trip, and it never ceases to amaze me just how small this world really is and how our all-too-short lives are SO intertwined... whether we know it or not.

I will have to check back here now and then. I do appreciate your website here and that this little moment w/the rehearsals are on youtube.. wow! So cool.

Thanks again! JJ Holiday, Justin Jesting, Just Ingesting or just whatever you like, ha!

JJH, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:27 (eight years ago) Permalink

awesome thanks justin

El GarBage (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

yeah, thanks for sharing!

tylerw, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:19 (eight years ago) Permalink

thanks for sharing that, Justin!

This is a better version of the Letterman show (vocals in synch and allround better sound quality):

Duke, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:41 (eight years ago) Permalink

holy shit, new wave dylan!

you kind of get the feeling that throughout this period he had warring instincts and often didn't choose the best of these.

by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 23:48 (eight years ago) Permalink

I'm not a big Dylan fan but that live clip of Jokerman is fantastic.

brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 18 February 2010 00:26 (eight years ago) Permalink

wow, thanks for sharing JJ

I am a big fan of these performances w/ Dylan on the Letterman show

lukevalentine, Thursday, 18 February 2010 03:05 (eight years ago) Permalink

I like Bob's delayed reaction to Letterman's question at the end

lukevalentine, Thursday, 18 February 2010 03:07 (eight years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

The YouTube links upthread are broken, here's a newer one

Brad C., Saturday, 7 June 2014 19:23 (four years ago) Permalink

"Best new music" right there

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 8 June 2014 09:04 (four years ago) Permalink

he should have stuck with it too, how dreadful was the 10th anniversary thing

just sad.

good example of what not to do with dylan in a live situation.

niels, Sunday, 8 June 2014 11:39 (four years ago) Permalink

Oof, I remember that. Everyone else onstage is embarrassingly overcompensating for Dylan's (understandable and justified) "Ugh, this shit again" attitude.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 8 June 2014 14:33 (four years ago) Permalink

Great thread, thanks! Hope to see more writing by JJ, will have to check the Web. Highway 61 Revisitedis punk as fuck; would be even more so if he'd chosen the fast version of "It Takes A Lot To Laugh," but the slower version provides effective contrast. Maybe someday as a bonus track. think there are other goodies from those sessions? Meanwhile, the fast 'un is on Series of Dreams. Lots of attitude on Tempest too: "So much," he sneers, "for the wasted years."

dow, Sunday, 8 June 2014 14:50 (four years ago) Permalink

four years pass...

I still don't know Dylan's punk period but I am once again listening to EMPIRE BURLESQUE (1985) every day.

the pinefox, Monday, 13 August 2018 08:48 (two months ago) Permalink

SO, are those youtubes gone, or is it just my work filter?

Mark G, Monday, 13 August 2018 09:24 (two months ago) Permalink

is it this one?

niels, Monday, 13 August 2018 10:53 (two months ago) Permalink

You guys ever hear about this? In the 90s Bob Dylan got super into Jerry Lewis and tried to pitch a slapstick comedy series—starting himself—to HBO.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:11 (two months ago) Permalink

Love that Jokerman arrangement. Got back into reading about/listening to Bob Dylan this weekend after not thinking about him for a while. Most people my age that I meet seem to not be enthusiastic about him or think he is a charlatan or something, which is really disappointing to me. At the hipstery bookstore where I used to work everyone was upset when he won the Nobel Prize.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:16 (two months ago) Permalink

a charlatan at what, being the greatest musician of the 20th century

j., Monday, 13 August 2018 12:17 (two months ago) Permalink

I think he is just seen as some kind of lame baby boomer emblem, which is absurd because he was famously not seduced by the mythology that grew around him and has spent the past fifty-plus years doing whatever felt right to him, artistically.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Might just be I only know losers but since high school my love of all things Dylan has often seemed a solitary enthusiasm

Trϵϵship, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:22 (two months ago) Permalink

there is this weird thing that persists where some people still see him as the old timey protest singer and not the decades of being an awesome weirdo crank

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 August 2018 12:27 (two months ago) Permalink

Yeah, that. Very odd as the weirdo crank phase arguably began like two years after he became famous.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 13 August 2018 12:39 (two months ago) Permalink

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