2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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something about "Considering he's already been in a few small-scale scandals since primary season began it seems unlikely that four years of intense scrutiny won't... lol bubba"

Clay, Tuesday, 12 February 2008 23:57 (sixteen years ago) link

MSNBC CALL VIRGINA FOR OBAMA BASED ON EXIT POLLS! BIG WIN!

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

hmmm so is CNN - that means the exit poll margins must be ridiculous

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

lol hueg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:02 (sixteen years ago) link

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/images/fox-demexitpolls-big.jpg

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link

she purdy

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

ouch

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link

so this is coming down to texas and penn, right? I mean, does HRC even stand a chance winning that few states in the primaries? where is obama polling everywhere else?

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:13 (sixteen years ago) link

He's projected to win Wisconsin and Hawaii handily - Hillary's banking on Ohio, TX, and Pennsylvania but assuming that she'll maintain her leads in those states with this much momentum and money behind Obama seems dubious. It will come down to how much of the party leadership thinks she MUST win over Obama because she presents a better chance in the GE - but I don't think they're going to draw that conclusion. They'd be foolish to step in front of Obama's speeding train at that point...

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:16 (sixteen years ago) link

lol clinton spin: we knew we werent going to win - wtf is that supposed to even mean?

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link

uncle mo

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:18 (sixteen years ago) link

that post was kinda a mess - what I mean is if it comes down to the superdelegates granting a decisive majority, their going to have to have overridingly powerful institutional and electoral reasons to back Hillary over Obama, and at this point I don't think they do. The party is going to come to the realization that the Clinton's national political capital is spent, and that the better option for the party is to get behind the dynamic populist that has a better shot at beating McCain. Hillary is running out of arguments for why she should get the nomination (minor policy differences on healthcare and delusionally self-serving "I'm more experienced!" talking points aren't gonna cut it.)

x-post

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I didn't even want your stupid primary!

Eppy, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Hassan Nemazee, another national finance chairman for Mrs. Clinton, said he was also telling his network of allies not to get caught up in the headlines about Obama

“I’m telling donors and supporters: Don’t be overly concerned about what goes on in the remainder of the month of February because these are not states teed up well for us,” Mr. Nemazee said.

G00blar, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

superdelegates aside I think that if obama takes either texas or ohio then he's going to be so far ahead in pledged delegates that hillary is going to be out, or at least, it would make sense for her to bow out. but we'll see.

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:21 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah Hillary's mounting excuses sound like she's dismissing the electorate ("oh those negros don't matter, neither does THAT state cuz we won't win it in the GE, by the way the only states that do matter are the ones where I'm polling ahead even though I may not win them, etc.") That shit is not gonna play well - no one wants to back a loser.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

otoh I honestly can't conceive of Hillary bowing out gracefully. I predict some kind of scary meltdown/lashing out.

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

"Nothing to see here; those states aren't gonna vote for us, so they obviously do not matter, duh." xposts

G00blar, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm ashamed she won my state but proud Obama won my district

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

(and I have no doubt Obama would sweep CA in the GE)

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:23 (sixteen years ago) link

McCain/Clinton '08

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:24 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm passing up an opportunity to hear obama speak in 10 minutes. instead, i will take a nap. and then eat tacos.

amateurist, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

You know you wanna

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

xp

Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i have no doubt obama would sweep CA if the election were this week rather than last

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Tacos 1, Obama 0.

Eppy, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Clinton/Lieberman 08

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Lieberman/Sharpton 12

amateurist, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

tacos/obama 08

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:26 (sixteen years ago) link

i'd prefer tacos to be on the other side of the ticket, but yeah.

amateurist, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link

oh man i want tacos

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Hassan Nemazee, another national finance chairman for Mrs. Clinton HRC, said he was also telling his network of allies not to get caught up in the headlines about Obama

“I’m telling donors and supporters: Don’t be overly concerned about what goes on in the remainder of the month of February because these are not states teed up well for us,” Mr. Nemazee said

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Um, let's try that again:

Hassan Nemazee, another national finance chairman for Mrs. Clinton Giuliani, said he was also telling his network of allies not to get caught up in the headlines about Obama

“I’m telling donors and supporters: Don’t be overly concerned about what goes on in the remainder of the month of February because these are not states teed up well for us,” Mr. Nemazee said

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

FOR PRESIDENT xxp

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah gOOblar said that already

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:32 (sixteen years ago) link

oh i see what you did

akm, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 00:33 (sixteen years ago) link

DC 4 OBAMA SUPRISE!

jhøshea, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link

"tacos/obama 08"

Obama/Richardson 08!

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:07 (sixteen years ago) link

i went into the booth tonight planning to vote tacos but I wound up picking the special, calabacitas con puerca, instead

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:10 (sixteen years ago) link

an obama/tacos ticket could not possibly lose

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:12 (sixteen years ago) link

this election will be decided by cilantro.

Cosmo Vitelli, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link

is america ready for a spicy president

Clay, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

cilantro is very controversial

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

obama > chimichangas > tacos

maybe

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

hillary is already in texas? seems desperate. is she gonna live there until the primary?

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

tacos> obama > cilantro> chimichangas

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:17 (sixteen years ago) link

do you guys like tacos? I do!

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

TACOS FOR CHANGE

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

chimichangas are clearly the john edwards of this debate here

roxymuzak, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:18 (sixteen years ago) link

hey guys...TACOS ON A PLANE!

Hurting 2, Wednesday, 13 February 2008 01:19 (sixteen years ago) link


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