Anyway, I don't recommend feeling guilty about it.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I wasn't aware of all the Oum Kalthoum guilt. Now I feel bad, like I'm responsible for everyone's guilt.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Which actually reminds me, Rockist - I first heard of Kalthoum a number of years ago through an old anthropology prof who had asked me to digitize some of his old reel-to-reel tapes (!) of middle eastern music. THe thing was, he didn't remember / hadn't labeled all the tapes, so some of the artists are unidentified. I love this collection (burned myself a copy), and I'd love to find out who some of these people are, but my knowledge is very limited. Could I send you a copy of this thing? Perhaps you might recognize some of the artists. Let me know...
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Did you ever have any luck finding anything else by Laure Daccache? I looked everywhere in Paris for the one CD that had been released (on some tiny French label), but turned up empty-handed.
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Friday, 13 August 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 13 August 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Friday, 13 August 2004 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I've only listened to it once and I know I really ought to give it another try but I'm afraid I'm not over inclined to 'cos it really didn't anything for me at all the first time.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 13 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
It is and you did; but alas it was too late!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post: Oh well. I don't even like her songs from before the late 30's, except for one or two. (I think that might be due to a heavy Turkish influence on the compositions she sang in her early years.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
The sounds were very easy for me to immediatey warm to, as it sounded like a variation on hindustani music, yet I must admit that the modern singer was more accessible, voice-wise, than Oum. But she wuz still c00l.
― Vic (Vic), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vic (Vic), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st, Friday, 13 August 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I see what you're saying. I just bought the Buda Musique El Sett CD (due largely to this thread) and, yeah, her voice doesn't seem "beautiful" in a conventionally western sense (unlike, say, Amalia Rodriguez, who when I first heard her, I said OMFG) but even on first listen I'm intrigued by her vocalization. There's something there that fascinates. And this, of course, is all 30's material--the only thing immediately available to me. Thanks for the tips!
― Paul Ess (Paul Ess), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, it really helps if you can see some live footage of her performances.
(I was disappointed when I finally heard some Amalia Rodriguez, incidentally. "World music diva" fite!)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 14 August 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 14 August 2004 12:46 (nineteen years ago) link
(The complexities of what she does with her voice can't adequately be modeled by pelvic thrusting though.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 14 August 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link
this is a very politically sensitive issue, R.S. america's dependency on saudi arabian music is something that out government needs to reevaluate. perhaps they can look into alernative sourcse of arabian music, or more efficiently utilize relatively untapped resources of arabian music in alaska or the texas panhandle.
― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link
That's the spirit.
amateurist, the whole idea of buying CDs made in a country whose official theology is anti-music (or something close to that) is baffling.
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link
(I don't mean to bug you, but my e-mail account is kind of unreliable, so there's a real chance you didn't.)
(Unfortunately, the post office has also been unreliable lately.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 22:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Reed Moore (diamond), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 7 October 2004 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link
(And I just got the contract ratification bonus check today. Wheeee! And I took some decongestant because I'm getting a sinus infection! Wheeeee!)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 24 October 2004 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link