Basic Channel Records ... Educate Me, Please.

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one more thing...

It is more on the ambient tip, but it is absolutely breathtaking:
http://www.discogs.com/release/584472

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 08:47 (seventeen years ago) link

doing a very basic dub recording of their own rhythm is exactly what we would have expected them to do

... in 1997. They've learned a few new tricks since then and I didn't feel the need to hear Maurizio M remake #4839B

(I am aware that the Vainqueur remix, which I love, is also stuck in 1997 so feel free to rebut my shaky logic along these lines)

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 09:59 (seventeen years ago) link

no need ;)

― friday on the porch (lfam), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:53 (seventeen years ago) link

disco n, thxxxxxxx!!

i is listening to Scion.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 22:43 (seventeen years ago) link

the Bipolar Defect 2LP is like water slowly flowing down a valley on a frozen steppe.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 04:27 (seventeen years ago) link

forgot to bid on a whole bunch of OOP CR 12"s last week which subsequently went for 1.50 euros each. fuck.

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

also has no-one repped for this yet? total classic

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm still pissed off at Basic Channel Dude for the shitty show he put on in New York four years ago with um, not Tikiman but somebody else. first he did a "DJ set" which turned out to be bog-standard roots reggae for two straight hours. even after they started doing live stuff they never got up to house tempo that i recall. why did he think people were there????

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

lol "house tempo". it was probably rhythm & sound

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yes exactly. i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm. OK maybe that's more techno tempo. everything they played was like half that. which is fine i guess, but not why i like them.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't understand the tussle/basic channel connection here

― cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 1 February 2007 14:47 (seventeen years ago) link

i think vahid's message is "omg noobs"

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

All the Melvins records I have are fast, but I saw them live and it was slow. WOT GIVES.

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Surely it was billed as a 45" session?

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

don't worry, I fixed it in ProTools

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:37 (seventeen years ago) link

the rhythm and sound records i have are reggae tempo and sound like reggae and have reggae singers occasionally. also i think the two guys like roots reggae

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah obv a little.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i have many rhythm and sound records and like them all. they are all at something like 130-140 bpm.

i think that you and i are listening to different r & s records.

also, vahid is pretty much always 'omg noobs.' which is at times refreshing and at times pure arrogance. (and in this case, after an investigation, Tussle are none too good. in fact, i'd venture to say Tussle kinda sucks.)

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

really really really really reaaaaaaaallly good

bc-02 - phylyps "trak"
bc-03 - lyot "reshape"
bc-07 - "octagon" / "octaedre"

really really really really good

bc-04 - quadrant "1.1"
bc-08 - "radiance"
bc-qd - quadrant "infinition"
bc-cd - CD compilation

really really good but not sure what the point was

bc-01 - cyrus "enforcement"
bc-09 - phylyps "trak ii"
tresor 100 - scion arrange and process basic channel tracks

merely really good though sometimes boring

bc-05 - cyrus "inversion"
bc-06 - quadrant "dub"

-- vahid (vfoz...) (webmail), March 26th, 2006 3:27 AM. (vahid)

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:01 (seventeen years ago) link

i really like that Scion record. otherwise, he's sort of right on.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:05 (seventeen years ago) link

The Scion mix CD is a better introduction to BC than the BC comp. It's become one of my all-time fave mixes.

― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i would agree there.

it's funny that vahid doesn't mention any maurizio, tho i guess that isn't strictly 'bc', just bc-associated.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Trak II underrated there

― a (rslvd), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:19 (seventeen years ago) link

DUB is number one

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

huh, that's funny, i thought all rhythm and sound records were fast, i.e. chain reaction i.e. basic channel, etc. oh well!

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

some of the remixes are. the originals are very much dubby reggae.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, it was seriously zzzzzzzzzzzzz. for like $20, too.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Thursday, 1 February 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

i am less interested in which ones people think i underrated (i get the sense many people would give all nine records 10/10 scores) and more interested in which ones you think i overrated.

the tussle+dj spun/BC connection is that there are more interesting things going on w/ dub vs electronic music these days than basic channel. i just wanted to get that out there, but if i were to start a thread on west coast house = I GET NO HITS, so i troll these threads.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:55 (seventeen years ago) link

if you want me to justify my list i will post capsule reviews later

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:09 (seventeen years ago) link

give us a rundown of the BPMs too, dog

― sexyDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:14 (seventeen years ago) link

justify my love

― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:24 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll second Tussle as quite nice, if not very Basic Channel-y, dub.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:25 (seventeen years ago) link

the underground techno label that that separates the men from the boys

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― am0n (am0n), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:29 (seventeen years ago) link

i guess i didn't find the Tussle stuff very dubby at all? maybe i'm listening to the wrong stuff.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Go here and download "Elephant." Kinda drum-circle dub or something but it qualifies for me. I love this particular track.

http://sixeyes.blogspot.com/2006/11/sixeyes-friday-mix-whats-hot-at-hype.html

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

i would like a capsule review vahid! i might even attempt my own.

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:00 (seventeen years ago) link

i'd like to read a lenghty critical appraisal of the basic channel series. are there any?

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:03 (seventeen years ago) link

ps vahid write a book

― friday on the porch (lfam), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

pps-but can you tone the 'omg noobs' type commentary down a bit, especially where it isn't needed?

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

though i would like capsule reviews too.

i think you overrated phylyps trak, but i need to listen to it a few more times before i get into specifics as to why.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is pretty awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:00 (seventeen years ago) link

also, 'Elephants' is ~~pretty~~FUCKING awesome. thx for the tip.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

No problem. I agree, it's awesome. And I can't listen here at work but their myspace has a Dennis Young (of Liquid Liquid) remix of "Elephants" up. That should be quite nice. It's here: http://www.myspace.com/tusslers

Also, you can download two choice cuts they've released on Rong at their website here: http://www.tussle.org/music.html

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

okay, so now i understand the Tussle love. weird that the tracks i slsk'ed don't impress me in the same way.

― the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:23 (seventeen years ago) link

I've always considered them a bit undeservedly ignored.

― matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:25 (seventeen years ago) link

someone please please please help me find the german dub-techno 12" that i once listened to at a store in san diego ... i don't remember ANYTHING about it except it was either from berlin or detroit, it was full of scary pinging sonar sounds and hard acid, it sounded a LOT like phylyps "trak" except rougher and nastier and more aggro, and it had a picture of the bow of a submarine plowing straight at you on the cover.

95% sure it was NOT drexciya or UR

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:19 (seventeen years ago) link

was that at Elevator records? Mark was always trying to get me to buy that record but it was way to hard for me. I can clearly picture it in my mind...

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:48 (seventeen years ago) link

not clear enough to remember the name, alas.

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 06:49 (seventeen years ago) link

oh wait...was it one of these records: http://www.discogs.com/label/Surface

― tylero (tylero), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:30 (seventeen years ago) link

HAHA YES ... WE HAVE TOUCHED THE SAME VINYL (no brokeback)

MYSTERY SOLVED ... now we know why i always thought it was a chain reaction related project!!

― vahid (vahid), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:55 (seventeen years ago) link

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