VAN DYKE PARKS appreciation thread...

Oh and my gf got his same business card from upthread :)

Yep saw him late last year, it was totally fun + awesome

dad jokes? is he a dad?

he is gay, right...?

NO.

nope

just fairly camp

He is a dad,and v v happily married afaik?

Yes.

man, this is something else. i don't even know what to think.

Song Cycle? That record has a lot going on ... and it's just a half hour long right? Feel like you could spend a lifetime listening to it and not get to the bottom of it.

yeah a friend gave me a copy on vinyl cuz he had it forever and didn't like it...

listened for the first time last night and this AM...

sorta like a weird beach boys but with way strange melodies and arrangements.

almost kinda like aaron copeland type stuff in some ways...

not entirely sure how i feel about it.

oh man i envy u yr first play

fave VDP joint might be mojo men's "sit down i think i love you" but "palm desert" is some insanity

yeah, i mean, it's not a record that makes a hell of a lot of sense at first. but it's worth the effort. also just kind of amazing he was allowed to make it!

My friend's fiancee posted a status update at midnight that reads:
"attn music nerds: Van Dyke Parks gets two thumbs down."
Made me laugh.
I don't listen to them very often but I love Song Cycle and Discover America.
His weird version of the "ode to joy" is pretty amazing.

is there a comp of Van Dyke's pre-Song Cycle stuff? Production, arrangements, guest spots, etc.? Don't know how much there is, but he pops up in non-Beach Boy spots occasionally.

Not that I am aware of but it would be great to have.

There are these singles (don't think I've heard them, unless Donovan's Colours is the same as Song Cycle)
# "Number Nine / Do What You Wanta", 1966, single 45
# "Come to the Sunshine / Farther Along", 1966, single 45
# "Donovan's Colours, Pt. 1 / Donovan's Colours, Pt. 2" 1968" single 45 (under the pseudonym George Washington Brown)

I should ask my friend that is utterly OBSESSED with VDP if he could whip something together.
He probably owns all that stuff.
I wish I could have gone with him to see Van Dyke in person in Arkansas maybe six or seven years ago. Heard the show was great.
He's such a charming and funny individual, that Parks.

yeah, i mean, it's not a record that makes a hell of a lot of sense at first. but it's worth the effort. also just kind of amazing he was allowed to make it!

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yeah it's awesome that there was this weird window of time where that could happen...like now it would have to be some weirdo indie self recorded thing on a small label, but in the 60s it's like hell yeah let's get Lenny Waronker and Bruce Botnick on this

they must've spent a ton on making this record

Hell yeah they lost money:

http://posterscene.com/images/items/full/vandyke1.jpg

haha, was just looking for that ad. hilarious. though it sounds like small potatoes, even for back in the day? maybe not. dunno what that would be inflation-wise these days.

ugh now i really want to hear the early pre-Song Cycle stuff. Doesn't seem like it's ever been compiled ... but someone out there on the internet must've put it all together. Don't let us down, Internet!

It's true that the first time you hear it, it sounds like an underwater gramophone playing scratchy music hall records sung by actual penguins.

well, no

though it sounds like small potatoes, even for back in the day? maybe not. dunno what that would be inflation-wise these days.

Dunno either. I was looking at the liners for Odessey and Oracle the other day, and there was a quote from an A & R guy were he said 4000 pounds (about $6000) was considered an expensive budget back then. IIRC Forever Changes cost $2500-3000.

iirc 'good vibrations' cost $60k? and that was seen as insane, the cost of multiple LPs?

This thread inspired me to listen to Song Cycle. It's been a long time.

Joy - just won tickets to see VDP at Meltdown Festival.

i recently re-watched the brave little toaster and noticed that he had written the songs for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbBEfZ8fK9Y

Harold / Purple Crayon, too.

Very excited to see VDP at Primavera this year. Re-reading that Warner ad is nutty. $50k is a tonne of money, though I can't imagine how and why Song Cycle cost that much.

the catering was off the hook on that record, i heard.

this has probably been posted a ton of times on this forum but it can't be posted enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8xq7hhBipE

I just noticed he wrote the songs for Brave Little Toaster when I re-watched it a couple weeks ago. Funny how my friend tells me how much he loved City of Light and another song at the beginning. I always favored the last 3 songs (at the dump song , future technology song, "it's just a like a movie" song).

Van Dyke Parks is the greatest! Here is a fileshare of some things I put together that are rare, unreleased and live performances including his first singles pre Song Cycle. I'd also like to recommend the short book Song Cycle by Richard Henderson on the 33 1/3 series. It sheds alot of light on that particular psychedelic classic.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7pcob8aaemum3

nice! thank you, as you may have seen upthread, i've been wanting something like this - i tracked down some of the early stuff but not all of it.
my friend met VDP recently and said he was a super nice dude.

daytrotter session!

daytrotter sesh sound radddddd

great musical history/mixtape via pfork: http://pitchfork.com/news/42269-5-10-15-20-van-dyke-parks/

check it out! http://www.bananastan.com/

Well, holy shit! This is exciting! Something about that website is super infectious.
I love the arrangements compilation too, that's a great idea.

yeah, i've always been meaning to do something like that arrangements comp myself. he beat me to it! new stuff sounds cool -- very van dyke! interesting that he says he "doesn't have an album" in him ...

WAU these new songs are amazing!

Note what he charges for the physical copies of those songs! Yiyiyiyi! As it should be!

$70 for six singles! That's ...bananas! At least you can just download them for cheap.

The 33 1/3 book on "Song Cycle" is superb. Just finished it and can't wait to read it again.

Yeah, it's so good. The anecdote about the greyhounds cracks me up

Can anyone confirm/deny that Van Dyke Parks did the arrangements for Dillard and Clark's "Why Not Your Baby?"

The 33 1/3 book on "Song Cycle" is superb. Just finished it and can't wait to read it again.― Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee)

I am already reading it for a second time!:)