Buffy

for those interested: kevin k watches "buffy the vampire slayer" and no one talks about episodes he hasn't seen yet

Killed By Death has that nifty Angelus-Xander standoff in the hospital, Go Fish has Cordy giving a heartfelt speech to a huge fish.

I quite like both of these episdoes, their monster-of-the-weekness was vaguely relieving in the context of the grimness of the surrounding episodes. Xander got to play hero in both, and IIRC the fish-dude Buffy flirted with was pretty hot.

the fish-dude Buffy flirted with was pretty hot.

EXTREMELY hot and went on to be the star of that show Prison Break!! Never realized that until I rewatched the Buffy eps last year.

And Mariah Carey videos. Girl likes her tv.

I don't think I can rate American tv on the basis of how attractive people are considering everyone is too ridiculously pretty.

Plus, american colleges only offer two courses: American Football and Musicals.

Finally (finally!) got around to watching Angel Season 5, which was just as good and entertaining as I'd hoped. Only started watching Angel with Season 3, though -- is there anything in the first two seasons worth checking out?

Yes!

See above! (But basically- Buffy/Faith episodes, Hero, RM W/A VU, the Pilot and last ep; all of season 2).

Yeah, you might as well for completion's sake, I suppose. They've been running S2 on TNT at the moment and it's better than I remembered.

Watching the show again because of a hoy hoy's lists. Up to What's My Line. Love this show.

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Basically agree with all yr ratings so far. I had forgotten how great The Puppet Show and School Hard are.

<3 joyce w/ an axe forever

There's always such a sense of IMPENDING DOOM hanging over watching season 2. Even though so much of the second half is so good I'm kind of dreading its arrival.

Passion- ;_; 10.

^^^^^

;_; forever.

My vhs player is broken and for some inexplicable reason I cannot find my s6 dvd set so I am downloading s6&7 to do their rating list thingys. I most probably could do them off by heart but they are the only 2 seasons where some episodes stump me.

A shame season 3 was too good for you to do an ep-by-ep breakdown.

'Killed By Death' - MOTW elevated by the pathos of childhood fears (see also 'Nightmares'). Plus one of my favourite Xander/Cordelia conversations ever:

Xander: Someone's got to watch her back.

Cordelia: I've seen you watch her back...

etc.

i can do a season 3 later.

Do it!

Actually 'Killed By Death' is def. one of the best Cordelia episodes ever. Like when Buffy's mom walks in on them in Buffy's hospital room and she's like "I feel like I've interrupted a secret meeting" and Cordelia laughs and says "You certainly didn't!" Or when she's asking Giles about what all the demons do and Giles finally says "it asks annoying and irrelevant questions so that nothing ever gets done!" and she says "wow they have a demon for everything, don't they!" And then it cuts to her on the phone with Buffy and she says "It's call Derkendersot" and Buffy's like "who is this??"

A COMPLETE GUIDE TO BUFFY COS I IS BORED AND HAVE ALREADY DONE MY MORNING JOB SEARCH AND IF KEVIN READS PAST WHEREEVER HE IS HE DESERVES TO GET SPOILEREDEREDED>

SEASON 3>

ANNE- Best Gandhi joke ever? Like 'When She Was Bad' it is actually pretty brutal when you think about it. For all of the characters this time, not just Buffy. And I love the drawback to forgotten characters in that world, and what they do after facing almost certain death. 10.

DEAD MANS PARTY- Kinda lol, an episode that needed to happen but not going to blow you away. 6
FAITH, HOPE AND TRICK- omfg. I genuinely can't think of another TV show that would put such emotional trauma onto a new character and expect them to pull it off effortlessly. 10.

BEAUTY AND THE BEASTS- One of the first MOTW episodes that seemed so much more than normal tv MOTW episodes. It's the first time we are made to question Oz's otherside no? How to react when he murders, even if it isn't him, kinda? When he *****************spoilers************ eats the evil wifebeater dude at the end, are we still ok with it? etc. etc. Quite funny above all of it, and a very smart way of dealing with post-killing-my-soulmate-Buffy. 9.

HOMECOMING- <3 Cordy. Xander and Willow are bad bad people. Mr. Trick is kinda lol. 7.

BAND CANDY- <3 Ripper. <3 Snyder. <3 just about everything in this episode tbh. A shame Ethan Rayne wasn't used more often. In a top 5 list of funniest Buffy episodes and thus is an automatic 10.

REVELATIONS- Giles gets his lol on. Faith v. Buffy! The gang confront Buffy and Willow is the sweetest when trying to talk to her. Giles then breaks every viewers heart when he tells Buffy she has no respect for him. Amazing. 10.

LOVER'S WALK- Drunk Spike = lol. For this it would just be a 6 or a 7 episode but Cordy incident and then fake reveal gives everyone a freaking heart attack. Just shows how strong a bond the show has built between all the characters, the emotional implications and the viewers. 10.

THE WISH- Bizarro world Willow! The acting is actually good enough to scare a little. By this point the show barely seems like it belongs as lol teen horror w/ demons and magic and shit and of course it isn't these details which make it scary but the hopelessness. 8.

AMENDS- Don't really like or care for the idea of the first. Didn't even before lol s7 but I'm sure i'll go into more detail about it then. The sweet end makes up for it though. And I like the shot of Xander being snowed on. 6.

GINGERBREAD- Meh. A couple lols I guess. And Amy incident sets up many, many lols for the future. 4.

HELPLESS- I don't think Rory and Lorelei or Dookie & Michael come close to the bond between Giles and Buffy. Maybe Dookie & Michael. Interesting premise, excellently handled. 9.

THE ZEPPO- Pretty lol but doesn't hold up to the standards of the episodes around it. Not really this episodes fault considering they are the pinacle of television. Also APOCALPYSE NO. 4 . 7.

BAD GIRLS- OMFG. OMFG. OMFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFG. FAITH! NO! FAAAAAAAITH! 10.

CONSEQUENCES- See Bad Girls. 10.

DOPPELGANGLAND- "I'm all fuzzy". Pretty good insight into Willow. "Hey, you didn't all go and do a bunch of drugs, did ya?" Understandably repeated with The Replacement considering Xander has a real life twin bro. 8.

ENEMIES- "Second best." Slow motion turn round. "You played me!" FIGHT. Fucking hell, a million heart attacks. 10.

EARSHOT- Funniest episode of Buffy? "I mean, what even is a Mulligan?" "Was it a boy demon?" "Their spelling has certainly improved." The review of Dingoes and Oz agreeing with it. Buffy finding out about what the Band Candy did. I fucking love this episode. 10.

CHOICES- "Why couldn't you be dealing drugs like normal students?" Snider kills it. Willow is amazing. Faith's dagger ;_;. 9.

THE PROM- Surprisingly MOTW but the umbrella saves it. 7.

GRADUATION DAY PT 1. - May actually be my favourite episode of Buffy? So so so unbelievably great on so so so many levels. Def. best fight in all of Buffy at the end. 11.

GRADUATION DAY PT 2. - ***********************spoilers****************** poor harmony. Giles is sweet at the end. Pretty fucking epic. 9.

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AMENDS- Don't really like or care for the idea of the first. Didn't even before lol s7 but I'm sure i'll go into more detail about it then. The sweet end makes up for it though. And I like the shot of Xander being snowed on. 6.

dude the climax to buffy/angel on hill is amazing!

Having Jenny play The First was good though.

My main issue with The First later on is that it had this awesome trick (and one spin on it in particular) that it hardly ever used, and certainly not to the maximum level of devastation (generally and in the specific sense of emotional devestation) it called for.

Looking at the list makes Season 3 look a lot darker than I remember it. I guess it is though.

btw im watching s4 of gilmore girls and the guy who plays the head of yale's student paper is the same guy who plays jonathan in buffy!

lol jonathon becomes quite a big character in gg!

that said he will always be jonathon to me, esp. after SUPERSTAR

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amazing.

My s7 download is going faster than my s6 so I'm watching Chosen before the football. I forgot how PERFECT the cold open is. If only the season in anyway lived up to what was before its first credit sequence...

Willow and Giles in England! Harry Potter references that Giles rolls his eyes at. Oh man...

***********************SPOILERS KEVIN DO NOT READ**************************

Spike in the basement was stupid.

Buffy got pretty bad camel toe.

Having Mayor Wilkins at the end was really really fucking annoying. Getting rid of the MOTW kinda lame and anti-climatic. Could have been a classic but isn't.

CHOSEN- 7.

first big speech of the season (there are many, many, fucking hundreds of them more)- 9.

god fuck the speeches

SEASON 7-

BENEATH YOU-
Cold open- lol someones seen Run Lola Run. One thing that annoys me is how does anyone know who potential slayers are, do they not have any strength or power or anything before Faith dies? Are they just normal non-super girls? How the hell does the council then scower the world to find out that one non-super girl is special?

Some good LOLs, many about how trampy they all are. Anya and Buffy both great at being super vulnerable. Dawn is good when she isn't being a whiny teenager.

8.

SPEECHWATCH- Spike goes on for about 5 minutes at the end. 7.

ARGH......... first episode is called Lessons. The last episode is called Chosen.

SAME TIME, SAME PLACE- First off, no speeches, so yay. Also pretty funny (callback to Doppelgangland; Anya making Dawn salute). Gnarl eating Willow's skin also genuinely creepy. Spike stuff still not handled correctly and you can tell Whedon's stamp isn't on it- watching it you could tell, much like Beneath You, that it could have done with another re-write/edit. This is feeling that unfortunately happens too often in Season 7. 7.

HELP-

SPOILER-FUCKING-RIFIC SO KEV LOOK AWAY

Cold open- Ok so this is something I've never seen discussed when it comes to the Buffyverse but considering this starts with them breaking into somewhere, it seems as good a place as any. In Angel it is obvious that they make half of their money doing crime. Hell, Gunn is kinda introduced as a car thief. The second half comes from a rich benefactor who likes to roleplay. In Buffy it is less obvious. Giles opens the store but it burns the shit down. Anya didn't make enough at the store to live fancily. Buffy didn't make that much at Doublemeat Palace and it is left open whether she even works there after the episode. Xander can't support them all by being a bricky. Did Joyce leave them a ton of money? It's never mentioned. So... they live on crime, right? Faith was right all along.

HELP- Hey remember when google was new and you could make joeks about it? also LOL Willow Doogie Howser fanfic. <3 the continuing new Dawn direction.

Cassie is heartbreaking. 9.

Are these more cryptic summations or is my memory of season 7 just totally shot?

Would Buffy qualify for social security for caring for Dawn? I don't know how it works in the US really but she would in Australia.

Joyce left money but it was all spent on medical bills and house bills by the time Buffy was revived. Giles was pretty well off but I don't think he was around at the beginning of S7. S6 seems to have a lot of scraping by, I suppose Giles could be helping out financially from a distance in S7.

And the potentials, I think there must be a way of finding them, they usually get tracked down by watchers and trained years before they become slayers (It would explain what the hell the Watchers' Council are doing with their time when there's only one slayer to look after). My memory of S7 is patchy but I think it gets mentioned in one of the speeches that they're stronger than normal but nowhere near slayer strength.

Tim: Partial liveblogging obv going to be different to crazy memory of watching something too many times. Each episode has started w/ lol slayer being murdered. And other than jeeeez spike as crazy guy in the basement (he says in Lessons that he is there because he has always had a connection to it but ? don't think he's ever gone near the hellmouth ? not sure he even ever went into the old library) its all been a bit MOTW so if you don't remember the specific episodes I guess the clues would seem cryptic.

SEASON 7 CONT.-

SELFLESS- Best episode since Once More W/ Feeling. Possibly in my POX even. Making Anya the best character was such a terrific move, she breaks my heart every time. 10.

Selfless is my favourite ever Buffy episode - even taking into account the horrible CGI spider near the start.

So glad all of the seasons are going to be on Neflix on demand soon, a rewatch is in order. I don't feel like I gave seasons 6 & 7 much of a chance.

Eh, iirc S7's quality drops off dramatically any episode soon. Its not long until my liveblogging really just becomes SPEECHWATCH

Also forgot to say **********************kevin if you read this then well you know****************************** lol foreshadowing of xander getting freaked out when gnarl's eyes are gouged out.

Poor Xander, he's kind of become the Bonaduce of the Buffy cast.