BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom - harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa

The ironic thing is that during the birth of House, it was an exceptionally broad/open/eclectic thing, whether you're talking about the deep house Knuckes/levan kind of thing pulling from disco, rock, world music whatever...or the WBMX mash-up of deep house, italo-disco, pop music and early house. I just find most "house" djs have a much more narrow view.

Also, during the last decade or so house has found a way to integrate previous instruments and their related technical/improvisational proficiency. The same can't be said for techno, recently grown out of aimless tribal banging and endlessy fascinated with the sound of it's own postIDM-twiddling Euro-kraut navel.

People here also keep mistaking house music with jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel. Or forgetting that house, like techno or most music for that matter, has the usual 95% to 5% shit-to-good ratio (and then conveniently forgetting to discuss the top 5% altogether). Keep looking the other way folks
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sorry i don't have much to contribute thus farly, but great thread, carry on... (though i must say, i don't get the fuss over map of africa's "black skin blue eyed boys," i'd much rather listen to the original. shit, i used to play it quite a bit, actually! before i went all euro-kraut navel-gazish, that is.)

Confused about wording here but if you're getting at what I think you're getting at could you supply some examples that aren't, say, "jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel"?

Also - wasn't looking for an argument. I know what I like as far as house that's influenced by the musics you mentioned. And I do like a lot of it.

Not the main ingredient, but one of them. At least that's always been my understanding....

from a personal perspective, having been a house and techno dj for ten years, i had to do something else for my own sanity (which i very nearly lost in the rave years). i still love going out to the odd night of proper house music but when i am playing it, my attention tends to wander after about 45 minutes. but, i don't think there should be any debate about purism vs the dreaded 'e' word. there is no right or wrong way.

This is my point precisely.

I'm saying that at present, sets by the likes of Chicken Lips or Chromeo or Jacques Lu Cont are to me much more fresh and inspiring (and in many ways traditional) house than anything the likes of Danny Tenaglia or Frankie Bones ever did (when they were doing house).....

Don't make me link to my epic and lugubrious dissertation on p vs e on Dissensus!

Anyone care to post some of his more ec***, er, diverse mix CDs?

if he thought that, he was right.

"[tony humphries] also wasn't averse to kooky and playful selections at certain points in the evening. 'he would play peter brown's "do you wanna get funky w/ me' and brass construction's "we can do it",' recalls [new jersey dj quincy] vaughn. 'we called it "sleaze time", because he'd play all of these funk, down tempo sleazy records, like pat metheney's "are you going with me", "cocaine in the brain" by dillinger and talking head's "born under punches"."

and yes, like every other late-disco-into-house DJ apparently he played lots of b52s and liquid liquid alongside the talking heads ... at least up until there were enough 4x4 garage records to fill a 10 hour night ...

maybe not a harvey, but certainly he at least had his idjuts-esque moments. (i hear the idjuts are big fans!)

(x post) Just responding to Vahid's statement that Steve Miller was huge at Zanzibar. I just didn't remember hearing his stuff or any rock the times I was there. Not that it's such a big deal in the end - just great memories - but I've been going out and clubbing in North Jersey/NYC for about 21 years now (I'm 37 this year) so, no, I wouldn't be pulling my experiences out of a book.

You know it's all for love...

There's a new white label on Feedelity, just called "Another Station", it's kind of erm........hands in the air piano eupohoria!