the biggest surprise is that it's not a concept album, or even cohesive one. first track is about perils of tv, the third/fourth opus is about his mothers ascension to heaven. what?
ok-to-terrible segues, strangely placed back-to-back. but man...
wings pts 1 and 2, right in two, rosetta stoned cannot wait to hear these at coachella!
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I do have to vent though: no Sacramento or SF shows? I mean, I like Oakland fine but WTF???
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 April 2006 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
May need a little time/attention/patience, but once you get to know it all a little better: wow. (I can see how people with short attention spans who've gotten used to fast-food-type short and easy music will think this is impenetrably dense selfindulgence, but I think it isn't and these immense movements of atmospheric organic living breathing sound that happen to have titles work very well, so there.) (convert becomes even more converted shocka!)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 21 April 2006 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link
hmmmm, that's a pretty broad generalization...i take umbrage, sir.
no, i can dig a 'big ol' jam-arama', but Tool's just Tool, and i guess that's all they'll ever be to me. better than alot of stuff, but i'll never cite them as something i'd WANT to listen to...
or maybe i could just make a mix of the songs i DO like!*ponders*
― eedd, Friday, 21 April 2006 10:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Esteban Butthead (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
a strange world indeed!
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Esteban Butthead (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Friday, 21 April 2006 10:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I didn't say that everyone who thinks Tool's stuff is selfindulgence has a short attention span, I only meant that could be the reason for some people's hate. (but I explained it impenetrably densely)
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 21 April 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
The actual explanation of the title:
As Keenan explains on commentary on aMOTION, his mother suffered a stroke that left her partially paralyzed and wheelchair-bound. The length of time between her paralysis and her death was 27 years, or approximately 10,000 days.
― StanM (StanM), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 30 April 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
A guy just brough the CD into work...it's absolutely nuts packaging, the stereoscopic lense thing is fucking crazy....alright I love you crazy ass math metal dudes!
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:35 (eighteen years ago) link
The reactions, however, are exactly as low as expected: http://www.10000-days.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1851 :"that guy's a cocksucking dipshit."
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
"I agreed with him mostly, but i don't know what histrionic means so maybe i don't."
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I still think it's their best album (only a couple of tracks on AEnima and Lateralus have remained interesting, now I've checked them out again after a couple of years, while this one has completely taken over my stereo over the last couple of weeks, not a bad track on there, even the fillers are necessary resting moments), but after a brief internal struggle I've been able to emotionally detach enough to objectively read it and agree with Ned: it's a great review.
But anyway - this whole meta thing (fans vs. reviewers) is old and pointless, so I'll shut up about it.
― StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― spastic heritage (spastic heritage), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link
definitely an improvement over brent d's wankfest of a review for Lateralus.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
But hey, the next time you're sneering at someone in a Tool shirt, just remember how retarded you look walking down the street with the words "The Boy Least Likely To" or "Clap Your Hands Say Yeah" across your chest.
― Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Dude, that Wolfmother LP rocks way harder than the new Tool does.
Crack a beer, smoke a joint (you ARE a Tool fan after all) and give it another listen, it's fuckin' great.
The tool I find to be a bit like a more adventurous "Lateralus".
For me, "Aemima" was tops for them. Such a great fucking album.
But anyway, to each their own, but Wolfmother rocks.
― Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link
And I wouldn't sneer at a Tool fan, I'd just remember how much I used to like them
― Erock LAzron, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:24 (eighteen years ago) link
It might.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 03:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ryan Pitchfork (Ryan Pitchfork), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Erock LAzron (erockzombi...), May 3rd, 2006.
Also, both those indie bands that you mentioned, in my opinion, suck.
OK, who's trolling at my expense here?
― Bring Me The Head of ESTEBAN BUTTEZ (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link
though i must say: upon only two listens to "10,000 days" i can't say that i'm all that impressed. i heard the first single a month ago and could predict every chord change. but it must grow on me, i suppose.
― Emily B (Emily B), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:03 (eighteen years ago) link
What exactly is "nu-metal" and how does it relate to Tool? I thought "nu metal" basically related to rap-metal, which doesn't seem related to Tool in the slightest. Tool always seemed more aligned with Progressive Metal or Art Metal or Alt Metal or whatever empty moniker you choose for it. It has nothing to do with Korn or Linkin Park.
― polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in Baghdad, Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Cee Bee (Cee Bee), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― is this a trick question, Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 4 May 2006 00:21 (eighteen years ago) link
I've been slowly sinking into the album on and off for the last week and a half -- it's taken more time for me to get into than Lateralus but I think I've 'got' the album now, in my own sense of it, and it goes like this: the equivalent of the dramatic closing triptych on Lateralus are the two parts of "10,000 Days" itself, which are placed much earlier in the album. In otherwards, in a weird way, this is less an album that builds up to an explosive ending/epilogue than it is one detailing an extended aftermath, thanks to its sequencing. More thoughts later.
Meantime, though, I'm tickled to have noticed this:
According to Neilsen SoundScan, "10,000 Days" sold a whopping 564,000 copies in its first week here in the US, landing at #1 in the Billboard Top 200 and outselling Pearl Jam's new album (#2) by a little more than 2-to-1.
It seems right.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 May 2006 23:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 14 May 2006 00:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:30 (seventeen years ago) link
― Seth (Sef), Sunday, 14 May 2006 11:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 14 May 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link