Mr. Show with Bob and David: Genius or Overrated?

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Jaws -vs- 1941

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link

although some people might have thought jaws was trying too hard. "looks like a 20-footer!" "25." I mean, did it have to be THAT long to be scary? by the way, see you here on martha's vineyard for the summer of jaws. big anniversary celebration. all jaws, all summer long.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link

COL1N B... as dumb as my argument is, I was arguing about the phrase "trying to be loopy and inspired" not "trying too hard." Just because they did wacky things (thus proving the "loopy" aspect) doesn't mean they were trying to be "inspired." I get the impression, as do others, that the material came from a very honest place and that their brand of comedy might simply be different because most comedy has gotten so corny that they (like me) probably find more outrageous stuff funny. To some (like me), outrageous humor comes naturally and is not the result of trying to be something.

Lemonade Salesman (Eleventy-Twelve), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link

I was talking about the way you were arguing. But yeah, I definitely think the show was as genuine and "inspired". Although "loopy" and "outrageous" speak more to the show's flaws and why I'm not sure Monty Python should really be the flashpoint here (although there are certainly elements there).

C0L1N B... (C0L1N B...), Saturday, 23 April 2005 23:50 (eighteen years ago) link

two years pass...

I still love it.

Kate, non masonic, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

yes

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 18:49 (sixteen years ago) link

sad songs are nature's onions

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 18:54 (sixteen years ago) link

paul f tompkins was chubby once

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 18:56 (sixteen years ago) link

my shoes hurt too

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

i really love the jesus christ superstar sketch. i was obsessed with that movie at some point in my youth though.

bell_labs, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:07 (sixteen years ago) link

gagortion

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

jcss is OK. not many lols.

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:12 (sixteen years ago) link

the sketch i mean. the original is the best thing ever made.

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:13 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that sketch really goes on too long

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

It took me a while to start liking Mr. Show, to be honest. I had to get accustomed to it... but I think that happens with most sketch shows. You need to get a feel for the actors on the show, and for the writing. I am, however, a giant sketch comedy fan, so inevitably, this show became one of my favourite shows. When I was younger, I liked Cross best, but now it's definitely Odenkirk. All of the "best" parts I remember of his show were Bob-related... there's one sketch in particular whose name I forget, where Bob is this kid with a squeaky voice who's really down on himself, and David is his swearing friend who leaves in a jeep at one point... I think Bob says "aw, gee..." all the time. Anyone help me out here?

I still don't think I like it as much as Kids in the Hall, though, but I am a Canadian. Again, though, acquired taste?

Will M., Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

no. kids in the hall are the greatest sketch comedy group of all time.

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Hadn't watched this for a couple of years until I looked up a few favorites on YouTube yesterday. "Change for a Dollar" and the "Van Hammersley" (the guy who teaches you about history through billiards) sketches are still great.

n/a, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:18 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah KITH is better, more consistent, generally weirder and relied much less on direct and obvious parodies

the Bob one you're thinking of Will is in Season 1, I think...? He wanders around complaining about how things change (leaves, streetlights, etc.) Its a pretty short interstitial piece if I recall.

altho yeh in general Bob >>>>>>>>>>>>> David

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Kids in the Hall is superior (it's easily my favorite show of all time), but I still heart Mr. Show 2 tha max

latebloomer, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe the key difference is that KITH stuff is generally character-driven, whereas Mr. Show is more concept-driven...?

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah but I have tried to show people KITH who aren't yet into it, and they are never amused... until they start watching many episodes. Not a sitcom, but also, people need to wach a few Seinfelds before they "get it" (which isn't to say everyone enjoys it after some eps, but NOBODY seems to like any of these shows after 1 or 2 episodes)

xpost YEAH, that's the one Shakey!

Will M., Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:21 (sixteen years ago) link

the dice and sponge sandwich KILLED

sunny successor, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Ha ha my wife and I do the "These leaves used to be cool ... but they changed" voice all the time.

n/a, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe the key difference is that KITH stuff is generally character-driven, whereas Mr. Show is more concept-driven...?

-- Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:20 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

yeah otm. but boy, what concepts!

latebloomer, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:23 (sixteen years ago) link

because it's Halloween, the Monster Parties: Fact or Fiction? sketch

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Fo4tzrxyXsA

latebloomer, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:26 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm willing to side with the "funniest american sketch comedy show" people.

John Justen, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, the "Video Complaints" sketch has a joke I still say in regular conversation:

"I HAVE NEVER! EVER! ...EVER! ...NERVER! ...NENVER! ...NEVEREVEREN!

Will M., Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

which reminds me of another david cross thing that I still oversue, but it's very subtle... in one eisode of arrested development, in one of the best moments, tobias is telling michael why he'd never take marriage advice from him. "And secondively, why would I take marriage advice from you? Your wife is dead!"

Secondively creeped its way into my speech, to the point where I no longer ven use it with a hint of irony in my voice, and just sound uneducated.

Will M., Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I often describe myself as an adventurist, a noveler, and a travelaire

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:47 (sixteen years ago) link

funniest American sketch comedy show was The State.

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

which is like light years funnier than Mr. Show. and they weren't allowed to cuss!

chaki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:50 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked a lot of the side people, really think they made the show: Brian Posehn, Jay Johnston and my fave Tom Kenny (aka voice of Spongebob). Season (3? 4? the last one) had like way tons tons of Jay Johnston, which was surprising. The best one from that season was called (IIRCE) "The Story of the Story of the Story of Antarctica," where he kept knocking over the thimble cabinet. I wish they were that puzzling and slapstick all the time.

KITH mos defs>>>>>>>Herr Scahuen

Abbott, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Ned's comment upthread about me liking the Ben Stiller Show more still stands. There's still some howlingly funny episodes of Mr. Show, but like Abbott mentioned the side people are underrated (and David Cross is way way overrated)

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:56 (sixteen years ago) link

The show would be horribly suffocating if it were just Bob & David.

Abbott, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Jill Talley, people

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 19:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

sorry to resurrect this old thing, but i just watched the bob lamonta story and laughed my ass off... this seemed like the best place to post about it.

#NAME? (ytth), Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Since they met on the Ben Stiller show, much of the show's precursors can be found in the Odenkirk sketches from there

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 25 January 2009 04:15 (fifteen years ago) link

the dice and sponge sandwich KILLED

― sunny successor, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:22 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^

bats in a kayak! (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 January 2009 05:46 (fifteen years ago) link

my favorite odenkirk from the ben stiller show is - besides manson, obv - val the background singer who is fluent in two languages: english and legalese.

#NAME? (ytth), Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Taint Misbehavin'

redmond, Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Was Odenkirk's Hillbilly Industries from Stiller of Mr Show?

c?ke (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:10 (fifteen years ago) link

stiller

#NAME? (ytth), Sunday, 25 January 2009 06:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The Bob Lamonta story is definitely one of the more tedious (bar the kid who says "they gave me some beer and frozen peas", and maybe the principle) of the skits on the show, if you ask me, but I tend to be PC that way.

mehlt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:37 (fifteen years ago) link

*the principal

mehlt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:58 (fifteen years ago) link

MY SHOES HURT

╓abies, Sunday, 25 January 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

mehlt you are a philistine

latebloomer, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

if you can't laugh at that sketch what can you laugh at?

latebloomer, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

'scuse me?

I'm sorry if I don't find half assed, easy mental disability jokes funny.

I've watched Mr. Show enough to know what I like, there are skits I've seen more than 25 times.

That pales in comparison to the Taint sketch, Mustardayonaisse, fuzz the musical, philouza, pre taped call in show, dream of a lifetime, change for a dollar, grass valley greg

mehlt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

and so on and so on. . .

mehlt, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

MY SHOES HURT

ice cr?m, Sunday, 25 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link


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