Buffy

I think abt the first half of season 4 is pretty shaky (picks up around the initiative?) The one with the cher listening roomate is v. bad but not on a par with beer bad.

Wild At Heart + Fear Itself are fucking awesome.

Giles w/ a chainsaw!

my sister bought a magazine once for a ranked list of buffy episodes, we both guessed right off the bat abt beer bad being the bottom

― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 11:37 (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Seems about right. Although maybe that one episode of S7 where Buffy makes the same speech for 35 minutes could be worse.

hmm, you are right.

Should really check episode lists before hating on things.

i actually LOVE the one with the demon roommate, though it was a perfect introduction to college-hellmouth stuff, though the rest of the stories in that vein... not so great

s4 is just.. ok for the most part. I mean it's better than s7, probably better than s1. not sayin' a ton there

The fact that I am considering doing a Buffy guide/maybe a ranking makes me think someone needs to give me a job right fucking now.

S4 has some of the best episodes: Wild At Heart, Hush, the Faith ones, the whole last disc, Superstar but its lows are proper OMG JUST KILL RILEY ALREADY HE WAY BORING

i feel like the moment when tv shows become abt characters making "inspirational speeches" is the shark jumping of the 00s

Fuck it, I have an hour to kill before my volunteer work-

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SEASON 1>

Welcome To The Hellmouth- Pilot. Also v. v. awesome. 9.

The Harvest- lol sunrise joek and Giles at the end. 9.

Witch- Amy! Killer cheerleaders! 9.

Teacher's Pet- Skip it. Xander nearly has sex w/ a giant bug thing/teacher and they may make joeks about this in future but you only need to know the reference. 3.

Never Kill A Boy On The First Date- Part of the story but not that good. 5.

The Pack- Another Xander MOTW type. Worth it only because of the scene w/ the principal. 6.

Angel- The moment you knew this show could turn out to be great. 8.

I Robot, You Jane- Skip it. Only thing you'll miss is INTERNET DEMON and also Giles has a crush on computer teacher/part time wiccan Jenny Calender. 1.

The Puppet Show- looool. 9.

Nightmares- Buffy as a vampire, Xander chased by clowns. Restless did it better. Can skip it if you want. 4.

Out of Mind, Out of Sight- I <3 this episode, Cordy kills it and starts to become a human character. Also first sign of the prophecy. 9.

Prophecy Girl- Sarah Michelle Gellar is one of the great underrated actresses. 10.

Skip- Teacher's Pet, I Robot, You Jane, Nightmares to make a 7/10 season.

if the pack is the zoo one then that is all time classic and ur criteria is fucked

imo

dude you love lists don't you

OMG, the hyaenas!

Acht restless did do it much better but the little kid in nightmares was v good.

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SEASON 2>

When She Was Bad- SMG <3 u boo. 9.

Some Assembly Required- MOTW, kinda dull. Maybe if you want some insight into Cordy but skip it. 3.

School Hard- SPIKE! DRU! JOYCE W/ AN AXE! 10.

Inca Mummy Girl- I'm so glad they stopped having Xander nearly gets it on w/ lol creatures episodes. WS Mummy tho. 2.

Reptile Boy- MOTW Snore. 1.

Halloween- Introduction of Oz iirc? Also LOL, so fucking great. 8.

Lie To Me- Joss Whedon officially makes this more than just a vampire teen show. 10.

The Dark Age- Worth it for insight into Ripper. Plus <3 Jenny. 6.

What's My Line Pt. 1- Kendra! Willy the snitch! Angel! Ice skating! It has it all really. 9.

What's My Line Pt. 2- See above + Xander and Cordy. 9.

Ted- Best MOTW episode of the season. 7.

Bad Eggs- Continues Angel/Buffy and Xander/Cordy smooching, not really worth it for anything else other than boiled egg joke. Skip it. 2.

Surprise- Wait a second is this actually... 9.

Innocence- THE BEST TV SHOW EVER? 10.

Phases- Oz! As a werewolf! <3 Willow too. 8.

Bewitiched, Bothered and Bewildered- Kinda funny, SMG in skimpy clothing always a must, Cordy kills it. 7.

Passion- ;_; 10.

Killed By Death- MOTW kinda lame. Skip it. 3.

I Only Have Eyes For You- The Flamingos are awesome and this episode is pretty good too. 7.

Go Fish- Fuck me, did I just call this the best show ever? Skip it. 2.

Becoming Pt. 1- OH YEAH BEST FUCKING SHOW EVER. 10.

Becoming Pt. 2- I don't think I'm ever going to stop ;_; 10.

Skip- Some Assembly Required, Inca Mummy Girl, Reptile Boy, Bad Eggs, Killed By Death, Go Fish.

yeah lists and I are total bros.

The Pack gets marked down for being a bit easy motw type of thing. The end is kind of lame too. But Xander kills it and no other high school show has the balls to eat the principal.

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SEASON 3> Watch all of it except Gingerbread. Earshot and Graduation Day Pt. 1 rival any television ever made. Would give a 9 or 10 to Faith Hope And Trick, Band Candy, Amends, Bad Girls, Consequences, Earshot, The Prom, GD Pt. 1 & 2.

i only have eyes is another of my faves fyi

Realised I was going to love Buffy 4eva after Giles's getting-of-knowledge speech in I Robot. Was a post-grad at the time, smell of old paper & bindings major feature of my life.

I don't remember such a speech and now feel bad that i might have to watch it again

although buffy at its worst >>>>> charmed and all attempts to steal the buffy formula.

It's close to the end. And the v v end has that 'Hey our love-lives are screwed hahaha' scene which was v winning as well. Really strong final mins on a toss episode in fact. Maybe skip the first 40?

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SEASON 4>

The Freshman- Made me pick up Of Human Bondage when I saw it in a charity shop, so A+ for that. Also Xander's Yoda speech. 7.

Living Conditions- Not sure how anyone who's lived in halls can not like this episode. A bit close to home perhaps? 7.

The Harsh Light of Day- Alright Spike episode. Has lol Ripper listened to the Velvet Underground scene. 6.

Fear Itself- Anya as a bunny! Giles with a chainsaw! That small joke at the end! 10.

Beer Bad- Kevin don't watch it. -1.

Wild At Heart- ;_; in a bad way. 9.

The Initiative- lol xander v. harmony fight. 7.

Pangs- Angel! On Buffy! Plus lol Spike at thanksgiving! And syphilis jokes! 8.

Something Blue- Kevin if you are reading this, you will finally understand why Spike's name was mentioned in the name of people Buffy got it on with. Willow casts a spell that goes wrong and lol spike and buffy like each other. Mildly humorous. 6.

Hush- This + Wall-e = Silent storytelling should have a full on revival. 10.

Doomed- Apocalpyse no. 5 or 6? 6.

A New Man- Oh gilespaws. 6.

The I In Team- I understand the whole Riley situation, it doesn't mean I have to like him though. 4.

Goodbye Iowa- See above. 3.

This Year's Girl- Best tv show ever. 10.

Who Are You- See above pt. 2, Faith is <3. 10.

Superstar- Jonathon brings the lols. 10.

Where The Wild Things Are- Riley sexing brings the quality back down. Skipt it. 2.

New Moon Rising- Oz! Tara! <3 Willow tho. 9.

The Yoko Factor/Primeval- lol spike, lol drunk giles, lol stealing from the matrix before it became a huge cliche. 8/8.

Restless- Tara! Vailed clues about Dawn and what happens at the end of season 5! Giles singing! Joyce coming on to Xander! THE CHEESY GUY! 9.

and thats that for now. sorry for ruining thread.

Ted- Best MOTW episode of the season. 7.

I think this is also a pretty important episdoe in the development of the psychology of Buffy. There's stuff set up in this episode that has repercussions right through the rest of seasons 2 and 3.

Agree that Earshot is amazing television.

those lists make me happy. thanks.

Life Of The Party (lorne throws a party, kinda lol, mostly snore),

this one is written by Ben Edlund and is thus HILAIRE

Angel comment: the ep "Expecting" where Cordy is preggers was ;_; for me. It's cheeseball but you know, that moment when she wakes up and she's like 8 mos preg and having sex doesn't mean you deserve to die, but she blames herself... Yes, it's the same old Joss message but somehow her utter panic and incomprehension that morning just tore me up.

whoa guys should i skip all these posts or is it safe?

Well considering you are mentioned in the title...

Will do 567 after I eat.

Kev- I tried to stay as spoiler free as possible but there is sometimes it was impossible not to mention stuff.

after this + the thread about blog projects, I thought about doing the whole whedonverse but then i'd have to watch alien resurrection again and find the comics. on the plus side though, any excuse to watch toy story.

k3v, dude, just start a new thread. Sam's lists (though awesome) are spoileriffic enough that I'd feel bad if you accidentally read them.

i would totally read a k3vin watches buffy for the first time thread

i totally would but i think it's too late now - i don't have season 4 and i've only got a few eps left of season 3

get season four then.

disagreements:

Couplet is godawful, Habeas Corpses is great, Inside Out is a little iffy but really important, The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco was the first episode of the fifth season I actually liked, Soul Purpose has some hilarious shit in it, A Hole in the World has terrible writing.

Killed By Death has that nifty Angelus-Xander standoff in the hospital, Go Fish has Cordy giving a heartfelt speech to a huge fish. Where the Wild Things Are does suck but has completely amazing Giles in coffee shop scene that redeems all.

for those interested: kevin k watches "buffy the vampire slayer" and no one talks about episodes he hasn't seen yet

Killed By Death has that nifty Angelus-Xander standoff in the hospital, Go Fish has Cordy giving a heartfelt speech to a huge fish.

I quite like both of these episdoes, their monster-of-the-weekness was vaguely relieving in the context of the grimness of the surrounding episodes. Xander got to play hero in both, and IIRC the fish-dude Buffy flirted with was pretty hot.

the fish-dude Buffy flirted with was pretty hot.

EXTREMELY hot and went on to be the star of that show Prison Break!! Never realized that until I rewatched the Buffy eps last year.

And Mariah Carey videos. Girl likes her tv.

I don't think I can rate American tv on the basis of how attractive people are considering everyone is too ridiculously pretty.

Plus, american colleges only offer two courses: American Football and Musicals.

Finally (finally!) got around to watching Angel Season 5, which was just as good and entertaining as I'd hoped. Only started watching Angel with Season 3, though -- is there anything in the first two seasons worth checking out?

Yes!

See above! (But basically- Buffy/Faith episodes, Hero, RM W/A VU, the Pilot and last ep; all of season 2).

Yeah, you might as well for completion's sake, I suppose. They've been running S2 on TNT at the moment and it's better than I remembered.

Watching the show again because of a hoy hoy's lists. Up to What's My Line. Love this show.

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