Come anticipate "The Dark Knight Rises" with *BATSPOILERS*

The villain will be called the Hot Prowler.

Batmobile found crashed in a ravine near Wayne Manor etc.

p excited 2 know what it wld b like when bruce wayne (played by tilda swinton) is a member of the parisian bourgeoisie married to a psychiatrist (anne consigny)

his real enemy then will b existential ennui

In another world, The Bathangover

BATMAN, a catherine breillat film

this could go on, guys

maybe talyor swift will purchase the franchise and she can rewrite it so that bruce wayne's parents never die in the 1st place teenage bruce attends a gotham magnet school plays lacrosse and gets early admission to brown~~

talyor swift to play catwoman (a talented gymnast at gotham prep who is as agile as a cat)

BATMAN, a catherine breillat film

― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:56 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wouldn't that be BAT GIRL

bá-ma soeur

i did like the prestige though.

the dark knight had a fuckton of plot holes

...unlike The Prestige.

cold.

is that DJ Spooky in Blues Bros 2K?

i did like the prestige though.

the dark knight had a fuckton of plot holes

...unlike The Prestige.

What were the plot holes in The Prestige? I know both of the twists were kinda silly from a realistic point of view, but it's not a realistic movie, and its internal logic seemed to work fine.

yeah i don't recall any huge plot holes, despite the ludicrous conceits.

some stuff was probably treated too elliptically.

I've been reading the wiki entries on some of these potential villains & the impression I'm left with is that they really, really need to up the level of security at Arkham Asylum.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/03/christopher-nolan-takes-flight-with-superman-we-have-a-fantastic-story-1.html

His villain choices to date have steered clear of strongly supernatural or super-science characters (no Man-Bat, Mr. Freeze or Poison Ivy, for instance) but he shook his head when asked if that was a trajectory he would continue. He did however concede one tidbit: “It won’t be," he said, "Mr. Freeze.”

He's writing and producing a new Superman movie too? Oh dear, I hope he isn't gonna do an "edgy" and "psychological" version of Supes too, that would be like the wrongest thing ever! I'd rather see something like an adaptation of All-Star Superman, but I can't see Nolan writing anything like that.

I think the strength of Nolan's Batman franchise is that he's created a bigger Gotham, and one that exists in a larger world in that Bruce Wayne can travel and Batman can go to Hong Kong. It makes sense that you'd see more than one criminal, gang, or villain, although the plots so far have done pretty well with keeping things balanced. I think the weakness of the Batman franchise, especially the earlier film series, was that there had to be some drawn out "Villian A meets Villian B" scene in the film, or that they had to tie together or have the origin story every time.

Maybe that's the win: no (complex) villain origins.

Nolan Batman = take the subtext of the Batman comics since forever, which has been made thuddingly overt at least since Frank Miller '86, and make it more overt and turn Batman into some pseud brainy b.s. And there's also one really, really big car with a really big turn radius.

The Burton Batman movies used space better. They communicated an unseen Gotham through judicious art direction and storyboarding, and they showed (or at least implied) night and fog without being pictorially dark.

I felt insulted by Batman Begins.

I thought the Burton films were good at the time, but there's a lot of characters standing around mugging for the camera. Maybe it's because the age I saw them at, but they seem a lot more cartoony. The Joker bouncing around the art museum, the Penguin doing his "oh what do we have here" intro to Catwoman and providing audience laughs that deformed freak is perving on latex catsuit.

Maybe Nolan's is too WHY SO SERIOUS-business, but I don't mind it. As for the idea that there's "pseud brainy b.s.," that's kind of baked into the franchise. The world's greatest detective, right?

I'd rather see something like an adaptation of All-Star Superman

me too, but this isn't gonna happen

Burton's first Batman movie is an ugly piece of shit

YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON - LET'S GET NUTS!!!

please Joker, don't make me listen to that shitty prince song again!

i agree that it's not a very good movie but it's not ugly by any means.

Also, Burton movies def. had the best Batmobile

no

yes

best screen batmobile anyway

i honestly don't give a shit about the comics

tbh I don't like the idea of Batman's shit being super-stylized. If he has batarangs shaped like bats, so be it. But the stylized bat logo, the super-stylized car with wings, meh.

Note that I did have the plastic model kit where you had to assemble/paint the Burton-era batmobile, I just think Burton's films (surprise surprise) ended up being about super-stylized decor and villains, and less about the characters and script behind those.

batman returns is really pretty great

guys he is called batman, if his car isn't shaped like a giant bat then I just don't know what to say

if I was batman you'd better believe that my dutch oven is going to be shaped like a bat

honestly i wouldn't mind if they treated the next batman movie kind of like the 1st spider-man movie, that is, a kind of straightforward extension of the basic premise of the franchise/classic narrative, not some psuedointellectual psuedorelevant overpsychologized stuff.

but with nolan onboard that's probably a vain hope.

actually i don't know why i'm posting here; i don't really give a shit.

YOU WANNA GET NUTS?! COME ON - LET'S GET NUTS!!!

Bale couldn't pull this off in a million years.

Also

THIS TOWN NEEDS AN ENEMA!!!

michael keaton is a much better actor than xian bale

^^^^ I might have argued against this before seeing "Terminator: Salvation".

Bale's made a bunch of shit but let's be fair here so has Keaton. They do different things, not sure who I'd really say is "better" as an overall actor but Bale is definitely a better/more convincing Batman. Never once believed Keaton was capable of psychotically beating up criminals, nor could he successfully pull off the vacant yuppie thing that's essential to Bruce Wayne

I thought you were supposed to believe in Bruce Wayne's "psychic wounds" or some such nonsense, and in this Keaton was excellent.

btw Batmanis the only post=Beetlejuice Tim Burton film I can watch.

I thought the Burton films were good at the time, but there's a lot of characters standing around mugging for the camera. Maybe it's because the age I saw them at, but they seem a lot more cartoony.

Hooray! So far only the first two X-Men movies have managed the serious tip.

i think bale works just fine, cos the implication is that there is just not much to the guy.

With Nolan directing there's not much to the comic either.

I really do think the first Burton Batman is just unbelievably ugly - day-glo color schemes, shoulder pads, consistently poor use of shadows and steam to evoke some kind of urban/nighttime environment that never feels believable, cheap shit architecture that looks terribly fake... the whole thing looks like its shot on a series of poorly designed soundstages and it shows. not once is the environment believable or immersive, it all feels false. when people tell me they like this movie I just assume they haven't actually seen it in 20 years.

and this is in addition to the shitty acting, a script riddled with plotholes, etc.