quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a rolling new york times thread

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As for a man’s cheating, “that’s a thing that girls let slide, because you have to,” said Emily Kennard, a junior at North Carolina. “If you don’t let it slide, you don’t have a boyfriend.”

haven't read the article, but this stands out for me cuz: recent conversations with a younger friend of mine (who's now crashing at my house due to ~lady troubles~) would anecdotally suggest that casual infidelity is, like, a thing. at least in some social circles? he doesn't condone it (nor is it why he's on my couch), but he's like "yeah, loads of my friends have drunkenly cheated on their SOs but, aside from a few blowouts, most of them are still together"

i'm no prude, and if ppl are into polyamory or w/e that's cool, but i'm genuinely sorta surprised at this? btw the cheating was 50/50, w/r/t the gender of the cheater.

werewolf bar mitzvah of the xx (gbx), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Gay ppl do not exist outside of stories exclusively about gay ppl, get with the program.

xp

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link

interviewing college kids about relationships always makes for a+++++++++ hilarious articles

max, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

lol @ a "fashion merchandising major" complaining abt not meeting a lot of guys @ college

he doesn't condone it (nor is it why he's on my couch), but he's like "yeah, loads of my friends have drunkenly cheated on their SOs but, aside from a few blowouts, most of them are still together"

this is roughly true of my social circle i think? at least the idea that one-off cheating isnt enuff to break-up a relationship

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

I like how not one girl they photographed matches their lead - "they slip on tight-fitting tops, hair sculpted, makeup just so."

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2010/02/07/CAMPUS0207/33149833.JPG

"allll mine"

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Jayne Dallas, a senior studying advertising who was seated across the table, grumbled that the population of male undergraduates was even smaller when you looked at it as a dating pool. “Out of that 40 percent, there are maybe 20 percent that we would consider, and out of those 20, 10 have girlfriends, so all the girls are fighting over that other 10 percent,” she said.

Perhaps the girls should lower their standards or try dating someone who's not a student?

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/images/photo/2010/02/07/CAMPUS0207/33091918.JPG

why can't these girls find dates????

iatee, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

it's esp awkward cuz at least one of these known (and repeat offender) cheats routinely gets a little too frisky w/me at parties, but her boyfriend just kinda keeps his distance, looking glum. siren.gif

(btw frisky here just means like obv drunk and flirty, no funny business)

werewolf bar mitzvah of the xx (gbx), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

If any of these girls is considering spending more time with Mr. Expos Cap & Kerchief here, they deserve everything they get.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2010/02/07/fashion/07campusspan-1/07campusspan-1-articleLarge.jpg

El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:19 (fourteen years ago) link

college dudes only dating chicks w/ real majors

Lamp, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

xp - It's nice that Vice Magazine finally made it to North Carolina.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

He's asking them if they've ever seen this hilarious thing called Dos and Don'ts.

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link

would anecdotally suggest that casual infidelity is, like, a thing. at least in some social circles?

I don't think this is "a thing" as in a trend that might, say, make it's way to the fashion and style section of the NYT so much as just how some people act sometimes.

Gay ppl do not exist outside of stories exclusively about gay ppl, get with the program.

We'd better take this discussion to the gay thread.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i meant more like a thing that's OK and common practice with some ppl

werewolf bar mitzvah of the xx (gbx), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link

dunno where else to put this so here's as good a place as any ... gail collins sons david brooks in a Congressional gridlock beef (see first three paragraphs)

there can be only but steam that smells of shit and weaklingness (Eisbaer), Friday, 12 February 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

gail collins playfully tosses cashews at david brooks as rome burns

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 13 February 2010 22:49 (fourteen years ago) link

hater

max, Saturday, 13 February 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

hater

max, Saturday, 13 February 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

lol didnt mean to post that twice

max, Saturday, 13 February 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

BUT IM GLAD IT DID

max, Saturday, 13 February 2010 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Femivores

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 March 2010 00:18 (fourteen years ago) link

AAUUUUUUUUGGGHHHHh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

E's response was "Who are they trying to kid? they are just trying to strap politics to being a pre-60s housewife"

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 15 March 2010 00:29 (fourteen years ago) link

how quaint

harbl, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously

Conventional feminist wisdom held that two incomes were necessary to provide a family’s basic needs

Never mind inflation, stagnating wages and rising house prices

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link

It's all just a matter of philosophy, you see

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:36 (fourteen years ago) link

She has a couple of friends (or friends of friends) who have decided to keep a couple of chickens - so she interviews a female farmer - deliberately equates the two - is this 600 words yet?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

As I rustled up a quick dinner of whole-wheat quesadillas and frozen organic peas, I found my thoughts drifting back to our conversation, to the questions she raised about the nature of success, satisfaction, sustenance (continues)

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:39 (fourteen years ago) link

where are the "stay-at-home dads" to make this slightly more convincing

harbl, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:40 (fourteen years ago) link

"femivore"? what the hell

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Monday, 15 March 2010 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

a person who eats women duh

harbl, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

read it as fernivore at first, though that might be taking Nutrition Nazism a bit far

FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Monday, 15 March 2010 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

SIGH

At least it's not in the fashion and style section.

she is writing about love (Jenny), Monday, 15 March 2010 00:48 (fourteen years ago) link

lol at "(continues)"

caek, Monday, 15 March 2010 00:53 (fourteen years ago) link

"All of these gals — these chicks with chicks"

*arglefargmurderstabstabstab*

gabourey weaver (get bent), Monday, 15 March 2010 01:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Yes - yes she went there

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Here's a good companion piece:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/14/fashion/14moms.html?ref=style

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 March 2010 03:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there any chance that moms will ever get overthemselves and stfu?

quincie, Monday, 15 March 2010 13:38 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^ILXmoms excluded from this because I mean I don't see sunny or nath acting like a bunch of mommybloggers.

quincie, Monday, 15 March 2010 13:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Awesome - that even includes a classic self-promotion-masquerading-as-disclosure statement -- A+

Tracer Hand, Monday, 15 March 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

Could only tolerate first 1/2 of femivore(??) article. Hey, my mom canned peaches (and tomatoes, and grape jam, and strawberry jam, and applesauce, and spaghetti sauce, and...) because we were POOR, OKAY? Also she grew corn and sunflowers and all our other vegetables for a while there.

She never went for chickens, personally, tho I know I've said before that we knew people who had ACTUAL FARMS who kept chix. God, people.

The other side of genetic power today (Laurel), Monday, 15 March 2010 13:56 (fourteen years ago) link

Whoa-oa here she comes
Watchout girls she'll chew you up
Whoa-oa here she comes
She's a femivore

hills like white people (Hurting 2), Monday, 15 March 2010 14:05 (fourteen years ago) link

With No Jobs, Plenty of Time for Tea Party
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/28/us/politics/28teaparty.html

skogsturducken (am0n), Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:28 (fourteen years ago) link

“The founding fathers pledged their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor,” he said. “They believed in it so much that they would sacrifice. That’s the kind of loyalty to this country that we stand for.”

He blames the government for his unemployment. “Government is absolutely responsible, not because of what they did recently with the car companies, but what they’ve done since the 1980s,” he said. “The government has allowed free trade and never set up any rules.”

skogsturducken (am0n), Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:39 (fourteen years ago) link

i instantly slapped my own forehead

Nhex, Sunday, 28 March 2010 05:58 (fourteen years ago) link

those ppl aren't ruling class, they just identify with them

harbl, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:04 (fourteen years ago) link

buncha joes the plumber

ice cr?m, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link


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