Autechre - classic or dud

One more thing about Ae before I go to bed. What were people's overall opinions on Draft7.30 and Untilted? I don't HATE these albums I must say. They have certain merits.

In mind Draft7.30 is the sound my brain would make if I were kidnapped by pirates and forced to remember an entire Funkadelic album so as not to be seasick during a storm.

Untilted makes me think of a janitor sweeping up a stadium after the world's biggest breakdance event.

Untilted is phenomenal, but my memories of Draft don't make me want to return to it.

also love untilted.("sublimit" people!!)

I throw draft on every once in a while and nothing sticks. all these years later and I'm still not sure how I feel about it. I imagine every ae fan has an album or twelve that fit this bill.

there just weren't enough melodies in draft (/geir)

Untilted makes me think of a janitor sweeping up a stadium after the world's biggest breakdance event.

lol

someone could write an algorithm that generates an infinite array of ae lolsoundslike similies

o rly

brb throwing all my autechre CDs out the window

I can understand being drawn to music due to it being innovative, but there has to actually be something there to keep you there, right? The idea of Autechre being "beaten at their own game" means nothing to me, as their game is to make music that people will presumably want to listen to. I don't think there's some producer->consumer contract where both sides agree that it has to be innovative.

I kind of cringed at the idea of Kraftwerk being appreciable only because their music was "made in the way it was." It's appreciable because it's good music!

The point of some Autechre work, to me, when it's not immediately accessible or danceable and certainly not hummable, is that it can evoke feeling. There are a couple parts of Confield that make my teeth hurt and make me feel uncomfortable as they sound so alien. I don't necessarily get pleasure from that, but I definitely get something, so I return to it on occasion.

extra-human melodies that only revealed themselves through intensive listening.

HUH?? I've listened to them all these years, and huh??

I can't listen to Draft or Untilted -- hate the compressed sound. In fact, I think Confield used up all the patience I had to try to get into subsequent Autechre releases, so that I don't even have time to try to "get" Quaristice.

Quaristice is pretty accessible IMO, some of the outtake material even moreso.

New album sounds like Plaid imo

Good '90s Plaid???? Say yes, Tray!

Well Ive only heard Double Figure, so...

I mean obv it sounds like Ae, really! But it has these Plaidy bits here and there.

someone could write an algorithm that generates an infinite array of ae lolsoundslike similies

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o rly

brb throwing all my autechre CDs out the window

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yeah

btw "Know" (or whatever the 3rd track is called) is gorgeous

This whole premise that Autechre were great because they were more technologically adept than their contemporaries is ridiculous, and frankly, more than a bit elitist. And by the way, have you heard that all rock music from the past thirty years is crap because no modern day guitarist can shred like Hendrix?

But how can Autechre continue when the dubsteppers are creating these incredible experimental soundscapes that you can dance to?

Of course it's obvious to everyone that experimental soundscapes you can dance to >> plain old experimental soundscapes. Oh wait, it's not obvious, that's a completely messed up strawman argument. Why should I continue listening to the Rolling Stones or MBV or Yo La Tengo when Pink makes rock music with better videos and cooler outfits?

This discussion actually makes me angry. I think I need to get off the thread.

Oh, and in my first paragraph, I'm not claiming that Autechre are/were the Hendrix of tech wizardry. I've never tried to seriously compare the "difficulty" involved in making Autechre's music with that of their contemporaries. It's never even occurred to me to try. I only care about what the end product sounds like -- besides, seemingly complex sounds can be obtained simply, and vice versa. I prefer to remain agnostic about the electronic music-making process, for the most part, and just go by what I hear.

hehe, calm down guys - as i mentioned before, my rhetoric was meant half-baitingly in order to generate response, not as a critique of Ae.

yeah, pretty sure everyone on here is on the same page, more or less.

Yngwie Malmsteen playing a 24-string guitar with his arse-cheeks

Can we please figure out a way to erase this horrendous image from my brain, kthx.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/106530/ae_wire.jpg

When I listened to half this album a few days ago I was under the impression that this album was 'pure atmospheres' as opposed to 'pure moods'. I wasn't feeling any emotion from it, perhaps because it was only an early listen. But on a track or two I did imagine a marsh at night full of tall trees with reddish bark being lit up by passing will 'o' the wisps among tin sounding machinery still churning away in the saturated overgrowth of moon-lit marsh

Needs more listens

Needs more listens

As usual it takes me a long time to 'get' whatever they're doing. Finally caught up to Confield and it's one of my favorites.

Oversteps threw me because it is unabashedly beautiful a la Amber - I was used to their records being ultracomplex transmissions from some unfathomable alien intelligence and wasn't really ready for anything 'pretty'. Hangs together as a coherent record much better than Quaristice did, which felt like random sketches and experiments (didn't help that there were, what, four different versions of it). Seems like their career has come full circle and that this is a sort of return to what they were doing in 93-94, but it doesn't feel like they haven't learned anything along the way.

If there is dubstep out there as 'advanced' as what AE is doing (and I'm a big dubstep fan) I'd love to hear it, I sure don't know of anything that's as interesting. But the audiences are different and so are the expectations, dubstep's a functional club music and AE are more academic, closer to the electroacoustic/IRCAM tradition.

I still don't know if I quite understand Confield yet, and it's what, nine years old this year(!)

I think my main problem with it was the harshness of certain rhythms, particularly on tracks like Cfern where the bass drum sounds like a close-mic'd football being launched about a tiny metal room. And while that may sound interesting, it just gets irritating after a while. I think I've mentioned once before about the time I once ran feverishly around my room in a waking fright-mare when my stereo alarm decided to rouse me to the strains of Bine one morning. It took about a minute for me to realise what was going on and where I was. All I can say is I was terrified!

Autechre is a "tracks band" for me. I like around half of Confield a lot and appreciate the rest. Bine moves like an assembly line into a threatening trash compactor if I remember correctly. It's one of the better tracks on Confield.

some of this reminds me of the synths on the apocalypse now soundtrack

Cfern where the bass drum sounds like a close-mic'd football being launched about a tiny metal room

that is certainly one of the better autechre similes i've read

throbbing like an amputated limb while weightless choirs ascend

4/10

Anyone have the track running times for like the first 3-4 tracks? Trying to figure out if I have the correct "leak." Don't worry, Ima buy the damn thing.

trying to talk about autechre's music without relying on ridiculous similes is basically impossible in my experience. i especially like the one on quadristice that sounds like an enormous robot attacking a chicken farm (you know, that one)

https://youtu.be/IuN51P16HHY

getting psyched for Denver. Anybody seen them recently in North America?

https://youtu.be/3-vEXc6B57k
Oberman Knocks - Dilankex (Autechre remix)

that BLOC clip (live?) is too brief... this Oberman Knocks remix is a monster. god bless 'em (the mighty 'Aut)

Going to the SF show. Can't wait!

seriously hoping for a proper uk tour, as well as that unpublicised sold out wee hours of the morning london show.

https://soundcloud.com/leheron_idletones/autechre-live-metro-chicago-il-09292015

recent live excerpt

the Metro/Chicago set (secondary link) is brilliant stuff.

that's really good, but wish the audience would stfu

the brooklyn show tonight was sick

Anybody going to the Philly show tomorrow?

https://archive.org/details/Autechre-Warp25-Krakow

listening back to this (excellent) bootleg, there are some interesting bits of overlap, with variations.

Enjoying Krakow show so far!!! Goddamnit I can't wait. Some juicy beats they're slinging in that set.

On the off chance anybody is at Union Transfer tonight, I'm the (well, a) guy in the brown striped sweater and blue glasses. Long hair, expression of vague unease, probably very very drunk

https://www.mixcloud.com/keyfumbler/autechre-portsmouth-new-hampshire-2015/

this one's monstrous

hello https://clyp.it/2akno5zg

XD

Oh my, yes

oooooooooohhhhhhhhh

dope track

with headphones it's spectacular, especially around the 3:00 mark when the arse drops away and it gradually sounds like the deepest hole ever. through a macbook speaker it totally sounds like they're taking the piss.

It sounds pretty dope on these Macbook speakers!