Radiohead - In Rainbows

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Zelda, I'm loving all these caveats of yours, because nothing about what you're saying suggests anything the band clearly haven't thought of already. Which is PRECISELY why they are trying this out.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

www.inrainbows.com down at the moment? (expected this to happen a lot sooner)

-- StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 14:58 (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

They removed the "Enter" link.

So, do this one:
http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/Quickindex2.html

Mark G, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also even if you don't pay a cent, they still have your details and an excuse to spam your inbox.
-- Roz, Monday, October 1, 2007 2:55 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

exactly! you can bet there's a huge tour in the works, and that everyone who puts in their contact info for this download (whether they pay nothing, a little or a lot) is gonna get an announcement straight to their email in a few months.

NB: that's an really inexpensive way to market a really massive tour.

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Another thing that occurred to me as well -- no complaints about people making mp3 rips of radio broadcasts of pre-released tracks, not to mention no worries about radio stations playing anything before they're supposed to. Jack White must be grousing as we type.

(Also, some writer colleagues in the UK checked with the band's PR folks, who confirmed -- no advances/listening parties/etc., everyone gets it all at once.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

thanks - but that's not working either/very very slow right now (xxpost)

but anyway, it doesn't matter, I ordered teh box this morning.

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just finished the process. Man, that was hard work!

Ned, did you check the google group?

Mark G, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

... so by the time a review appears in the monthlies, the download album will be more than two months old but it's going to be just in time for the box set (December) or the actual CD (if they release that in January).

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ned, did you check the google group?

?

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

how many of you are going to be ordering this? i can't decide. the most i've paid for a single piece of music is pretty much around $25. i like radiohead a whole lot but 80 bucks is a lot of money.

also, for US people who have ordered stuff from the UK before -- how much of the $80 do you think goes towards shipping? somehow i can justify it more if the shipping cost is like $30 or something.....

Mark Clemente, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

grrrr NME

"listen to the album here!"
- click, page with ads and
"click here to go to the blog!"
- click, page with more ads and
"click here to see the whole message!"
- click, page with ads and the youtube live clips every blog has

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

YOUR PURCHASE MAY BE SUBJECT TO A TRANSACTION FEE.
THIS WILL BE SHOWN AT THE CHECKOUT.

oh yeah, pay 20 quid transaction fee as well now plz

no?

rizzx, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, I haven't seen anyone's posts anywhere who had to pay that transaction fee.

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

If Radiohead had done this with Hail To The Thief, I would have been one of the $80 discbox purchasers. I really love the Kid A/Amnesiac period, and went through a major period of Radiohead obsession based on those two CDs. As it turns out, they're the only two Radiohead CDs I truly like. So I'll do the cheap download to start, and will pay standard price for whatever lower-price CD or LP version ultimately comes out.

mike a, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Drudge Report linked to the site this morning. That probably crashed it.

Comparing sales of this to OK Computer and Kid A and profits, keep in mind that each MP3 sold costs $0.00 to manufacture.

Eazy, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

and even so, that fee would only be 45p (xxxpost)

http://www.inrainbows.com/Store/Advice.html

What are your shipping rates?

There is no additional shipping charge for the Discbox.

Are there any additional costs?

A 45 pence bank charge may be incurred. This will be shown at the checkout.

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

No transaction fee for me...

kv_nol, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Transaction fee is 45p

I don't know if that applies if you went for the 0.00 option.

Mark G, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, if you go for the 0.00 option you only have to fill in your contact details apparently, not your visa number & so on.

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Comparing sales of this to OK Computer and Kid A and profits, keep in mind that each MP3 sold costs $0.00 to manufacture.

And also costs $0.00 to buy! (setting up the website and the backoffice technology etc would have cost something though).

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Everyone's acting like this box is limited edition and preorder only, but they didn't say that anywhere, or did they?

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

StanM is correct - no credit info required for the free purchase.

Simon H., Monday, 1 October 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

If Radiohead had done this with Hail To The Thief, I would have been one of the $80 discbox purchasers. I really love the Kid A/Amnesiac period, and went through a major period of Radiohead obsession based on those two CDs. As it turns out, they're the only two Radiohead CDs I truly like.

this pretty much describes why i'm hesistant to drop the $80 on the discbox. i like the other albums just fine, but Kid A/Amnesiac are pretty much the only ones I'm motivated to listen to anymore. i'm just a little worried about dropping $80 on an album isn't nearly as good as my favorite radiohead stuff.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

They had to write and practise and record and mix and master everything before they had the free mp3s though, and AFAIK those things tend to cost money (even when you have your own studio) (xxxpost)

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

hmm maybe i'll do the free download and if it's effin' great, i'll do the discbox.

Mark Clemente, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm more excited about this as a news story, and as a hugely interesting marketing model, than i am as an album :/

grimly fiendish, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I ordered the box because I just have to have it. I'll worry about the music later :-)

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Maybe they figure that anyone who is going to download it for free would get the songs for free anyway.

Eazy, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

hmm maybe i'll do the free download and if it's effin' great, i'll do the discbox.

This is kinda what I figured most people interested in the box would be doing anyway!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lefsetz has chimed in.

Simon H., Monday, 1 October 2007 15:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh pfft you whiners - try not being american or british, the pound is SEVEN times my currency. That's like half a month's rent right there. I won't pay that much even if I do like the album. Too bad cause the whole package looks so pretty.

Roz, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lefsetz has chimed in.

Hahahah! I was waiting for that!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Will they make a deal with a major for physical distribution? Will they do it themselves? Or will they leave ALL that money on the table? Shit, that would blow MY mind.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

how much of the $80 do you think goes towards shipping?
-- Mark Clemente, Monday, October 1, 2007 3:17 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

from an experienced ebayer who ships worldwide...maybe $10, $12

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

For that much weight? (double CD, double vinyl, hardcover booklet)

Wow. I've been had by some sellers, I think. :-/

StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, you've been had by at least 80% of eBay sellers, more than likely

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

I ordered the box because I just have to have it. I'll worry about the music later :-)

-- StanM, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:34 (Monday, 1 October 2007 16:34)

Sadly very OTM u_u

kv_nol, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

The only problem with this release strategy is that there will be a shortage of sane, measured reviews of the album and a whole lot of "I wouldn't pay for this crap anyway har-dee-har-har!".

Simon H., Monday, 1 October 2007 15:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

It seems like the concerts in '06 received really strong reviews, and that some of these songs were developed then.

Eazy, Monday, 1 October 2007 15:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah as far as i can tell, at least 12 of the 18 songs were played on tour last year, maybe more, they might have changed some of the titles.

Roz, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

deadairspace update for whoever's having trouble accessing the online store:

Just to let you know - mel called to say that w.a.s.t.e are working on the current gear-grinding at inrainbows.com....it's getting busy in there - busier than they expected.

So if you please bear with us, it should get cleared out soon. I sound like a bouncer. Get behind the rope. No denim. Thanks for your patience with the site & interest in the record.

Jonny

Roz, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Rainbows

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Which band/label is it that does a pay as much as you like thing for downloads, and publishes the average as a guide?

You're thinking of Magnatune maybe?

todd, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Radiohead's new music has been characterized by the band as "almost embarrassingly minimal," "sparse with lots of bass," and, more recently, "lush", according to Stanley Donwood, who is working closely with them on the artwork of the new album

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

ILM:

Oct. 10, however, is the leak date: What Radiohead have done is leaked their own album, two months before its physical release -- same as everything else -- but they turned it into an event and a moral decision about whether you should pay for that leak or you should just steal/take it/sample it and maybe buy it later, whatever you want to call it. And they've enticed people to actually give them money for a leak in part by, at this moment, setting up this deluxe product as your only other choice to pay for their music.
-- scottpl, Monday, October 1, 2007 1:10 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link

Pitchfork:

What Radiohead's doing here is actually pretty cool. Rather than preface their new album's release with the usual three months of press ballyhoo, only to have it leak at some random time before it comes out, they've kept it completely under wraps, then essentially gone and leaked it themselves. What's more, they've turned this into a moral question of sorts, by giving us the freedom to pay actual money for what amounts to an album leak.

.............................................................................

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, how dare Scott use his own words in two places.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

lolol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

HAHA oops i didn't catch that part, sorry guys

stephen, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

classic

HI DERE, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, of course they'd release it on CD as well. That's the whole reason I was able to fill out the total as $0.00. There's no ethical debate when you're downloading the album early because you need to listen to the music. I do this all the time, and I still buy the albums when they come out.

It is smart of them to leak it on their terms, ensuring that everyone gets it at the same time and will be talking about it together like a release back in the pre-leak days.

Cosmo Vitelli, Monday, 1 October 2007 16:55 (ten years ago) Permalink


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