Owen Pallett - Heartland

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A collab with OMD, wow...
A friend of mine told me how you played the opening songs of Dazzle Ships as an encore at a gig in Utrecht last year (or was it '08?) - I was sooo pissed I wasn't there. Luckily I now have tickets for the Amsterdam gig in march.

willem, Thursday, 4 February 2010 23:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Just to be clear, this isn't something that particularly sounds like "let me arrange everything to imitate synths," at least not to me -- it's just something to think about when the arrangements/instruments behave in ways that are a little unexpected. It might not have occurred to me if I hadn't read it somewhere and then thought, you know: ah, yes, those strings there do do that, don't they.

I think I made the "voice mixed too low" note when talking about He Poos Clouds, but it doesn't seem like an issue to me here. (Maybe because the sonic profile of this one is lower and warmer? It felt like more of an issue when the voice was up against a lot of mid-rangey strings.)

BTW, am I alone in this experience, or does this album present to other people at first as great but not-super-lively, and then repeated listening reveals it's way, WAY more lively than you thought at first?

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 4 February 2010 23:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Four kestrels manoeuvre in the dark.

ecuador_with_a_c, Friday, 5 February 2010 02:51 (fourteen years ago) link

BTW, am I alone in this experience, or does this album present to other people at first as great but not-super-lively, and then repeated listening reveals it's way, WAY more lively than you thought at first?

Absolutely. The first listen was very impressive, but I was almost too enmeshed in the arrangements and the leaps forward/sideways in terms of what Owen's been doing with percussion and countermelodies and texture. The second and third were spent wrapping my head around what the hell was going on with Lewis and his wife and Cockatrices and such. And while clearly the melodies were embedding themselves in my brain, it wasn't until recently that I realized how much the album really drives itself forward. There's a KICK to it that appeared in moments on the last two (Dream of W&R, Song Song Song, etc.) but it's somehow less stately/mannered than Has a Good Home and He Poos Clouds.

Alex in Montreal, Friday, 5 February 2010 03:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Plus, things like

For a man can be bought, and a man can be sold,
And the price of a hundred thousand unwatered souls
Is a bit of meat and a bit of coal.

should not be nearly as catchy as they are. Humming this shit EVERYWHERE. Haven't seen Owen since the He Poos Clouds preview at Lambi - at the time translating the string quartet parts for solo violin was mind-blowing...looking forward to seeing how the new arrangements morph for live concerts.

Alex in Montreal, Friday, 5 February 2010 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh, and while Owen's around answering questions about recording procedures and stuff...where does Spectrum 14th Century fit in?

If Heartland is totally from the perspective of Lewis, is the EP a collection of disparate voices just supplementing with context? Are any of those "Lewis" songs as well, or should we just treat them as vaguely connected bonuses? (Specifically is The Butcher supposed to be in the voice of "Owen, God of Spectrum", because that's the only way I can make head or tails of it).

Alex in Montreal, Friday, 5 February 2010 03:29 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.comixconnection.com/uploaded_images/286100~Portrait-of-Baby-Crying-Posters-713652.jpg

Thanks for the kind words! I'm preemptively banning myself.

Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Friday, 5 February 2010 03:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Question though Owen- did you decide to just go by your name after they printed up all the sleeves to your records? I noticed when they shipped in they all say
Final Fantasy on the spine and theres a sticker on the front with you name. Just curious.

Evan, Friday, 5 February 2010 04:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I think Owen's checked out of this thread. Or at least from answering questions. Which makes sense.

This is from P4k:

From now on, Owen Pallett will be known as Owen Pallett-- we'll have to put those bad jokes about hit points and geeks in sweatpants to rest. According to a message from Pallett, "the laws of trademark infringement exist for good reason, and so I am voluntarily retiring my band name."

http://pitchfork.com/news/37436-final-fantasy-changes-nameto-owen-pallett/

kshighway (ksh), Friday, 5 February 2010 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Eh oh well.

Yeah but I was wondering how last minute that decision was, since it still says Final Fantasy on all the record sleeves, but the sticker says his name. These dull little things hold my curiosity.

Evan, Friday, 5 February 2010 04:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh shit. I seriously read

Question though Owen- did you decide to just go by your name

And then went to Pitchfork. I'm tired. Sorry dude.

kshighway (ksh), Friday, 5 February 2010 04:41 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not THAT behind here.

No problem haha.

Evan, Friday, 5 February 2010 04:42 (fourteen years ago) link

:-)

kshighway (ksh), Friday, 5 February 2010 04:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I think his voice suits the music well. Good pairing.

SourPatchCorpse, Friday, 5 February 2010 06:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Little snatches of Oh Heartland, Up Yours really remind me, vocally, of Aimee Mann circa the Magnolia soundtrack.

This is a terrific record.

My copy is labelled up with Owen's own name, incidentally.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 5 February 2010 08:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Really now? Spine too? Neato.

Evan, Friday, 5 February 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Yep, spine too; from Amazon's preferred merchant.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 5 February 2010 14:53 (fourteen years ago) link

i like this record a lot and feel a bit guilty about whining about how long it was taking to come out on pwen's other thread

thomp, Friday, 5 February 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Great record owen!

Emily's Cheese, Saturday, 6 February 2010 06:23 (fourteen years ago) link

Finally listening, and it sounds like what would happen if Josh Groban went slightly insane or took some drugs.

Evan, Saturday, 6 February 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Good way, in a.

Evan, Saturday, 6 February 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Josh Groban? No. Just no.

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Saturday, 6 February 2010 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

inspired by that 45rpm to 33rpm thread I slowed down some Joanna Newsom and the singing sounded quite a bit like Owen.

my few listens to this album have been real satisfying and I still don't have a real grasp of what it's doing (it's kind of just drifting awesomely by), so I expect to be back in a couple of weeks saying how amazing it is.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Is there a good online shop for buying indie vinyl (UK based)? That is trustworthy and not too expensive? I hate living in a town with only a shitty hmv to rely on and now want to buy this.

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:19 (fourteen years ago) link

(Sorry we have an incredibly shitty vinyl store that tries to rip you off even if you know what you are looking at and doesn't seem to know anything about music that hasn't been on the cover of Mojo.)

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:20 (fourteen years ago) link

you probably already know it, but Boomkat? http://boomkat.com/ - not exactly cheap, but 'okay' pricewise I'd say.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:31 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah cheers. No, I've never really bought records online unless they were from rapandsoulmailorder.com's sale section

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

How much is their shipping? The only thing I could think of to knock it up close to their free shipping mark (the GSH) is out of stock :(

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:35 (fourteen years ago) link

erm, think it's about £2 for a double LP? Not entirely sure, though.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:46 (fourteen years ago) link

ordered. cheers merdy

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

wahey. I'd better get commission on this.

FC Tom Tomsk Club (Merdeyeux), Sunday, 7 February 2010 13:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Well if ever there was a place to ask the duke himself.

80085 (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 7 February 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Bump before this falls off. I am awaiting an opportunity to listen to this on my big AKGs. Things keep happening to prevent me.

No, YOU'RE a disgusting savage (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 08:06 (fourteen years ago) link

So this is fucking immense. Way better than the first two (which I still liked).

80085 (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:37 (fourteen years ago) link

just caught myself singing out loud some of the more dragon quest sounding bits at work ("the stony hiss of cockatrice has cast us into serfdom! i close my eyes and spur imelda down the mountainside - for a liberated spectrum!") — felt 'nerdy'

thomp, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha--I find myself singing "I will not sing your praises..." all the time.

President Keyes, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link

this = awesome

Michael Steele, the first black Superman (HI DERE), Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:49 (fourteen years ago) link

should probably hear this huh

sonderangerbot, Thursday, 11 February 2010 14:51 (fourteen years ago) link

dude it's incredibly good

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 11 February 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

unsurprisingly; I'm really enjoying this. Will be putting it on repeat methinks.

forksclovetofu, Thursday, 11 February 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah i dont have much else to say other than this is epic and kind of really good

vag gangsta (k3vin k.), Thursday, 11 February 2010 17:49 (fourteen years ago) link

just caught myself singing out loud some of the more dragon quest sounding bits at work

or on the bus! or on the street! or...well, anywhere. and then you get really self-conscious about how ridiculous you sound!

Alex in Montreal, Thursday, 11 February 2010 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I work in the student shop at Goldsmiths College. The staff get to pick the music that plays; today I kicked off my shift with Heartland. Some guy comes up to the counter and we start talking about it. Dude's gotta review it for The Quietus apparently. My brush with music writing 'fame' haha.

Dwight Yorke, Thursday, 11 February 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

you want lyric embarrassment, try accidentally muttering "I've got a taste for liquid gold / I'll bludgeon til the body's cold" while waiting in line at a McDonald's

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 11 February 2010 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link

^^ the most effective method I've ever found of enlarging my Personal Space

oɔsıqɐu (nabisco), Thursday, 11 February 2010 23:38 (fourteen years ago) link

(obligatory cock ring joke)

forksclovetofu, Friday, 12 February 2010 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

If Heartland is totally from the perspective of Lewis, is the EP a collection of disparate voices just supplementing with context? Are any of those "Lewis" songs as well, or should we just treat them as vaguely connected bonuses? (Specifically is The Butcher supposed to be in the voice of "Owen, God of Spectrum", because that's the only way I can make head or tails of it).

I read "E is for Estranged" as being from Owen's point of view as well, and then started to notice the melodic similarities to "The Butcher" toward the end of it - neat if I'm right.

if, Friday, 12 February 2010 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd never heard any of Owen's other music before listening to this - it's some astonishing music. I had no idea my subconscious had been craving a long-form orchestral-pop concept album so much, but hey no complaints here

HPSCHD, Friday, 12 February 2010 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Pooland

velko, Friday, 12 February 2010 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

for some reason listening to this makes me want to read dave sedaris. an odd sensation i know.

80085 (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 13 February 2010 09:04 (fourteen years ago) link

man, it's been forever since i listened to "he poos clouds"
i remember it being mailed to me and thinking it was a TERRIBLE name and then i fell in love with the album
still feeling the same 15 years later reallyl!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 21 April 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link

Thought Recorder: The Marion Stokes Project was excellent, film and soundtrack both. I've never felt better about my life as a hoarder.

clemenza, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

I'd never heard Has A Good Home before

SPOILER: it's great

DJP, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

<3 thanks DJP

btw, I scored this and it's coming out May 8

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/neon-spaceship-earth-release-coronavirus-1234585849/

we have no stan but to choice (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

coooooool was already on my must watch list!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 April 2020 01:45 (three years ago) link

remastered Has A Good Home sounds so goooood. <3

can't wait for Island!

Roz, Friday, 24 April 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

island out tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! https://www.instagram.com/p/CAdyxJcA8XE/

devvvine, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:16 (three years ago) link

fair play, gatecrashing the 1975 love-in like this

imago, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

https://music.apple.com/jp/album/island/1509744953

devvvine, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

oo!

maffew12, Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:29 (three years ago) link

WHAT

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 May 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Roz, Friday, 22 May 2020 01:49 (three years ago) link

AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Le Bateau Ivre, Friday, 22 May 2020 09:54 (three years ago) link

owen pallett - island (2020)

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link


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