The Micro Four Threads Third

I keep on getting an urge to buy one of these cameras every time I open this thread - I really should stop reading it!

Possibly disagree on not being aimed at serious photogs - even without easy manual adjustments, it might be an ideal carry camera for when someone doesn't want to bust out the SLR and big-ass zoom.

I'm looking for a small camera, either in the Ricoh GR-D III range on up the Panny/Oly 4:3s - I'm always in spots where I wish I had a camera, but the D700/50 combo is pretty difficult to be casual with and I can't afford a $10k M9 in this lifetime.

The EP-2/VF would be a good option - even though AF sucks, you can zone focus and go hyperfocal when there's enough light - but I read that it resets the focus point every time you turn it off/on.

you can set it not to reset (it's how I keep my panny 20mm set). the real problem with that setup is that there is /no/ focal scale, on the lens or in the camera - no digital scale at all. so you always, always have to guesstimate, which is a real pain. one alternative would be using the digital body with a manual lens with a real focus scale. but then you'd have to do some real-time calculations since the focus scales are set up for 35mm film, and you'll need to compensate for the smaller circle of confusion/etc. of m4/3

so I was an idiot and left my GF1 on a kitchen table in Ireland. a friend is posting it to me. obviously she doesn't have the proper plastic caps to remove the lens and then seal the camera and the lens properly.

is it best for her just to keep the camera intact and wrap it with lots of bubble wrap? or is there some risk that impact will ... ? i assume there's some reason the camera gets shipped with the lens off.

dammit.

lots and lots of
bubble
wrap

makes sense. ok, i'm breathing again, thanks.

keep the camera intact and use lots of bubble wrap and padding, it'll be fine

What's the lens? If it's the 20mm, it'll definitely be better left on there, well padded. In fact, unless it's some huge zoom, I think it'll be fine anyway.

20, yeah. My friend says she has things taken care of. Let go and let God.

Camera misplaced/lost/stolen/fell out of bag/???? on Friday night while out with old pal and at a party with strangers.

Totally gutted.

dude :( it'll probably turn up in a few days, try calling back.

else look on ebay for GF1s being sold in MN w/o accessories

I almost left my e-p1 on a bus in thailand, some guy gave it to me just as I was stepping off the bus.

yeah i've been keeping my eyes peeled on CL and ebay, and have been pestering everyone i know about it's whereabouts

:((((((

feelin you

Oh, man, what a nightmare. Do you have contents insurance that covers lost/stolen items outside the home?

Fingers crossed it'll turn up!
I left my backpack in a pub after an all day drinking session and only realised in the morning I'd left it somewhere, I couldn't remember where I'd been either.
I phoned every pub in the area and finally found the pub, someone had handed it in, I couldn't believe it.

i have been pestering every single establishment/person i was with that night about its whereabouts. theft seems less and less likely, and the worst possible situation seems more likely: it fell out of my messenger bag on the ride home

mess bags are always a little tilted, and the cam was sitting on top of clothing, which means that it literally could have rolled out of the bag and i might not have noticed it (i was listening to headphones on the bike path)

blech. i have no camera now :(

sorry to hear this :(

jesus, gbx, sympathies

can you claim on insurance?

dont thimnk so, not definitively stolen

If you have home insurance, it's be worth giving the company a call.

yeah so

thinkin about sucking it up and buying another cam

now the q is: used GF1, new GF1, or wait another six or so months for the GF2 to come out (which apparently will have an in body EVF???)

Still coveting the GF1+20/1.7; if I had the money I'd snap a used one up like a shot. There's always going to be a better model round the corner (unless you really missed the EVF?), I'd just go with what you know. Though the original Oly Pen (EP1) is now half-price in some places (though inferior in most ways).

I'd just go with what you know

yeah this makes sense. i'd just gotten comfortable with the thing when it got nicked.

gonna do some financial soul-searching here

Def used if you can find one right? Built like a fine-precision brick.

next q:

never bought anything from abroad on ebay (there are CHEAP NEW GF-1s in like taiwan) except for the $15 faux-leather skin for my old one (from Japan, from the manufacturer).

slightly nervous about wiring $700 overseas and not having much recourse if they are shady. is it worth $100 for, uh, transactional insurance, or am i just a) a noob or b) some kinda racist

the E-PL1 can be had new for as low as $525 on amazon... and it takes the olympus vf-2 evf, which by all accounts is better than the gf-1's EVF... and the AF speed is nearly on par with panasonic cams after the latest firmware.

as for q2 IME it's better to stay local when buying, check out photography forums for sale sections. these cameras in general are cheaper in the states than in Asia, believe it or not. for example this GF1 body is only $400 shipped. lots of gear forums out there, check out getdpi, fred miranda, mu-43, four thirds forum, etc. etc.

i have it now :D

Hurrah!

inexplicably brought it to work. like, just to have it nearby or something.

i usually keep mine nearby tbh

http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigt/v-lens/micro-ft/index.html

http://www.cosina.co.jp/seihin/voigt/v-lens/micro-ft/25-0.95-top.jpg

gf1 on its way 2 me

=D

what lens u get?

20mm package + 8gb card

i don't really know anything about the lenses :/

it was between that and a 14-45 lens

you made the right choice

one of us

good to know but why is it better? the 14-45 is a zoom right

i'd been wanting one of these for awhile thx to this thread btw. can't wait

better glass, according to CW

good to know but why is it better? the 14-45 is a zoom right

― (ㅅ) (am0n), Thursday, December 2, 2010 2:40 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

faster lens (2-3 1/2 stops faster depending on what zoom length)

better image quality

smaller, doesnt look like your camera has a chubby

lighter

its pretty awesome but.. maybe i should have waited for the gh2 since its got the viewfinder and high iso capability. the viewfinder for gf1 is like $150!

the lack of a VF is the only thing that bugs me about the gf1. i keep holding out hope that they'll upgrade the EVF but i have a feeling that'll never happen