"certainly not a 9.0 (yet another Pitchfork record store clerk overstatement)."
ok, i admit thats more or less what i thought in the beginning,(good but not great) but this album is a much more "grower" thing than i thought.and fuck it - the 2nd half is as good as the first.it just took a little time to realize it.only "used to be" is skippable imo.
― Zeno, Thursday, 4 February 2010 07:14 (fourteen years ago) link
i hate that pitchfork record store
― brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Thursday, 4 February 2010 07:44 (fourteen years ago) link
songs should all be a bit shorter imo
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Thursday, 4 February 2010 08:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't think this album is better than its predecessor but they're both at least 9.0 albums to me. i feel like they're naturally embedded in their style they couldn't really ever make a bad song or album, even the most boring beach house song would still be lovely and warm, would feature her voice etc.
― samosa gibreel, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
― brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Thursday, February 4, 2010 2:44 AM
― ♖♕♖ (am0n), Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link
my wife thought this was a dude singer too btw
Even after finding out the girl was the singer, I looked up the credits, thinking "well maybe the dude only sings lead on some of the songs"
― ecuador_with_a_c, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link
u guys are weird
― brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
transvestite!
― Zeno, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm a big fan of all the usual references for this band (Nico, Cocteaus, Mazzy Star, Galaxie 500, Low, etc.) but can't seem to get into them to any huge degree. Just more of a "ho hum, this is kinda nice" reaction. What am I missing?
yeah, this is how I feel. i think they sound pretty good whenever they come on, but I'm never really swept away ... haven't heard the new one ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 4 February 2010 17:16 (fourteen years ago) link
I don't think this is quite as good as Devotion, but I fucking loved that record and I'm growing to fucking love this one too. It does need time though, the first three or four listens left me unimpressed. Now, "Silver Soul", "Walk In The Park", "10 Mile Stereo" and "Real Love" are knocking me sideways.
― bakerstreetsaxsolo, Friday, 5 February 2010 00:58 (fourteen years ago) link
boring shit
― ian zamboni, Friday, 5 February 2010 01:13 (fourteen years ago) link
Awwww... don't talk about yourself like that, Ian.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Friday, 5 February 2010 03:44 (fourteen years ago) link
hey, is that ian zamboni of zamboni sdtks? that's a FUCKING GREAT blog, dude.
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Friday, 5 February 2010 09:03 (fourteen years ago) link
This is definitely a good argument for the beauty of content-free recordings.
― Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Monday, 8 February 2010 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
What – ILM?
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 8 February 2010 15:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Ha! No, this record. It's not meant to be a zing, either. I feel like nothing happens on this record and it's perfect for it.
― Megadeth Panel (Ówen P.), Monday, 8 February 2010 15:24 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, it's pretty basic and introverted for most of the time (with some nice nuances), a little MOR even,and i say that as a positive things.
― Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
owen otm
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link
for me this album is just one big giant heart throb. the best moment is when she sings "i take care of you."
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:55 (fourteen years ago) link
but "in a year or two"...
― Zeno, Monday, 8 February 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link
they're so good at ending songs with beautiful heartbreaking choruses that go on forever
― samosa gibreel, Monday, 8 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link
like i said, songs go on too long
― figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Monday, 8 February 2010 22:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Beach House = sex
Even they think so...
“This record has a lot of sex in it and it has more balls"...
http://www.clashmusic.com/feature/beach-house
Talk complete balls though...
― Cream Of Some Young Guy, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
beach balls
― am0n, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:13 (fourteen years ago) link
ball house
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
liked the fallon performance but wasn't sure about headbanging to a song without a beat
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
i was disappointed by her fashion choices on that TV appearance.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link
so they got the Hope Sandoval approval - said she liked them, and that they remind her of Opal.we can all relax.
― Zeno, Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
we can all relax.
by taking quaaludes and listening to hope sandoval?
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 17:44 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't know if i can ever listen to this record as i'm struggling to believe it can possibly live up to the spluttering hype it's getting everywhere
― trembling blue knees (electricsound), Tuesday, 9 February 2010 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
The more I spin this album, the less I'm convinced it's any good.
Kind of starts to sound like if Grizzly Bear started making repetitive, monochromatic songs with a female lead vocalist, instead of their usual over-orchestrated kaleidoscopic indie-pop thing. Maybe a good thing for Grizzly Bear fans... but I just think it's really boring. Not even bad, just boring. Which is probably why it reminds me of Grizzly Bear. Not bad... just boring.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:15 (fourteen years ago) link
if you find beautiful melodies boring then yes there is not much besides those on this album
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:01 (fourteen years ago) link
sometimes i feel like it takes all sorts of retarded INNOVATIVE/EXPERIMENTAL/PSYCHEDELIC superfluous tags for people to be able to fuck with killer pop tunes these days. i'm sure if you ran this dream-pop album through animal collective's synth meat grinder it would'nt get knocked for being boring; but it also wouldn't be any better.
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:07 (fourteen years ago) link
I love a good dream-pop album but this isn't dream-pop, it's more like mope-pop.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Better yet: snooze-pop.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
so beach house reminds you of grizzly bear if grizzly bear started making music like beach house
― am0n, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
ah, the good old days when beach house songs sounded like beach house songs written by beach house
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link
Well, yes, but you're making it sound stupid. I mean, imagine if Slayer started making music like Beach House, it would be a bit different, right? So it's got something Grizzly-esque to it, their sense of neutered dull boring-ness or something.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Also, for an album full of "beautiful melodies" and "killer pop tunes" it sounds surprisingly dull to my ears. Even compared to, say, the new Hope Sandoval record (hopefully a fair comparison) this album really falls flat. Where are these tunes you speak of??
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:44 (fourteen years ago) link
ah, the good old days before grizzly bear invented boring-ness in music
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link
did you ever like or listen to beach house before this album, ilxor? because i can't imagine anyone being surprised or dissapointed that they would put out a record that sounds like this. if you just never liked beach house i get it that it's not your thing, but you're kind of accusing them of doing exactly what they've always done + tacking on a random grizzly bear diss.
― united arab amirites (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link
did you ever like or listen to beach house before this album, ilxor?
I'd previously heard the first album and a couple songs from Devotion. Pretty much thought "oh, this is nice, I'll keep an eye on this band in case they turn into something awesome down the line" and moved on to other things.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link
You do have a point, though, maybe I've just never been the ideal fan of theirs. Though I've seen the hype around this new one and I try to give things a fair shake, regardless of past judgments, so...
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link
+ tacking on a random grizzly bear diss.
Also, not really a random diss -- I said the Beach House album specifically reminded me of Grizzly Bear if they were less orchestrated and had a female singer, and that both were not really bad/offensive but seemed musically neutered and boring, in one way or another.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link
This album reminds me of beautiful melodies that I heard elsewhere.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 21:59 (fourteen years ago) link
i wish grizzly bear sounded more like beach house, then i might actually not think they are rubbish
― victim of a vicious puma (electricsound), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link
I prefer Beach House actually! "Take Care" and "Norway" are two songs I like more than anything by GB.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link
the songs usually have a good melody in there but--and i say this as a fan of much minimalist pop--they really don't have enough going on, melodically or texturally (sp?), to justify their lengths. the changes in texture are often predictable in a (don't hate me please) coldplay sort of way--ok, bass here, drums here, etc.
not that this is bad by any means, just predictable and a bit zzzz. and somehow less mysterious and odd than the first two records.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link
they had a really fragile, very particular aesthetic going on and it was probably wrong to imagine that they could work variations on it endlessly. although maybe they'll put out a killer 4th record and surprise me.
― by another name (amateurist), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 23:44 (fourteen years ago) link
the changes in texture are often predictable in a (don't hate me please) coldplay sort of way--ok, bass here, drums here, etc.
This is something like what I've been trying to say.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Thursday, 18 February 2010 00:03 (fourteen years ago) link