helvetica vs. arial

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sizzle!

:::mee:::, Sunday, 26 October 2008 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

eww that's somehow disgusting

s1ocki, Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

i like it but i'd prefer white on black

Cittaslow Mazza (blueski), Sunday, 26 October 2008 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

agreed 100%

○◙i shine cuz i genital grind◙○ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 26 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I mis-read the thread title as "helvetica vs anal"

snoball, Sunday, 26 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I read this as "helvetica vs anal".

Anal > Helvetica > Arial fwiw.

― edwardo, Thursday, 10 January 2008 14:31 (9 months ago)

t_g, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Y'all be needin new glasses.

Trayce, Sunday, 26 October 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

i rented "helvetica" last night but it wouldn't play :((((

rent, Friday, 28 November 2008 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

You have to install the font first.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Friday, 28 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Arial had its place before ClearType, because it really does look ok even when pixellated a bit, and Helvetica looks like doo-doo without good sub-pixel rendering. Whether MS used it for that reason or to avoid paying royalties is a matter of debate I suppose, but I wouldn't called Arial a cheap rip-off of Helvetica. Every typeface (I can think of) is based on another, and there's a strong case for Arial being purpose-built and well-thought-out. And let's face it, Microsoft's foundry is good at what they do. Not all their creations hit my sweet spot -- I could really do without Trebuchet MS, for instance -- but some of the new Vista fonts are excellent. Corbel, Segoe, Calibri... gotta give props where they're due.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Friday, 28 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

In other words, don't hate.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Friday, 28 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Helvetica vs. Anal.

sheepie (libcrypt), Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

both way overrated

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:45 (fifteen years ago) link

What font makes the word "Arial" look most like the word "Anal"? Poll?

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Any font that has no i and n and r swapped.

sheepie (libcrypt), Saturday, 29 November 2008 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.100besteschriften.de/

negotiable, Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I do not read German so well.

But I do love Frutiger. I just zipped and sent my collection of it to my girlfriend yesterday, because she was in a font mood.

fiscal liberal (kenan), Saturday, 29 November 2008 01:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Watched the docu-film Helvetica last night, really enjoyed it. It's going to drive me mad, though, looking for fonts everywhere.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 11 December 2008 08:23 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

a quiz!

http://www.ironicsans.com/helvarialquiz/index.php

kingfish, Sunday, 8 November 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

THE FUCK KINDA QUSTINO IS THIS

― sleep, Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:48 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

ian, Monday, 9 November 2009 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

19 of 20. I missed "Mattel". I don't feel too ashamed.

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 9 November 2009 05:35 (fourteen years ago) link

capital A's and lowercase t's are easy to distinguish

I'm gonna put on an iron burt, and chase stanton out of urt (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 9 November 2009 09:55 (fourteen years ago) link

i still prefer the arial G

http://www.ironicsans.com/helvarialquiz/target-arial.gif

abanana, Monday, 9 November 2009 11:02 (fourteen years ago) link

HERETIC(A)!

George Mucus (ledge), Monday, 9 November 2009 11:08 (fourteen years ago) link

berthold's Akzidenz-Grotesk a.k.a. "Standard" is my fave:

http://www.opps.cn/word/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/akzidenzgrotesk.gif

you can still see it on a few old signs in the NYC subway system

Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 November 2009 11:42 (fourteen years ago) link

capital A's and lowercase t's are easy to distinguish


How are capital A's easy to distinguish?

http://www.ironicsans.com/helvarialquiz/mattel-arial.gif
http://www.ironicsans.com/helvarialquiz/mattel-helvetica.gif

tie me up, dress in drag, and read to me from the bible (kenan), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i only missed one on that quiz by the way - toyota - but i'll admit that mattel was a toss-up as well

if there's a lowercase t or s it's easy

Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 November 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

19/20 i find s and lowercase e the easiest to distinguish

just sayin, Monday, 9 November 2009 14:25 (fourteen years ago) link

c as well. arial has the ends all chopped off at jaunty angles.

George Mucus (ledge), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:26 (fourteen years ago) link

14/20 - not so great.

(I think I'm starting to prefer Arial argh! I like the jaunty angles)

Persian Pickle (Masonic Boom), Monday, 9 November 2009 14:27 (fourteen years ago) link

strangely i like the jaunty angles in akzidenz-grotesk but loathe them in arial.. no idea why

there's just something so pleasingly balanced about akzidenz-grotesk, yet also something ever so slightly handmade about it

Tracer Hand, Monday, 9 November 2009 14:33 (fourteen years ago) link

eight months pass...
one month passes...

watched helvetica last night

http://i975.photobucket.com/albums/ae232/daggerlee/thumbsdown.jpg

shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Friday, 3 September 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link

wish i could have voted comic sans in this poll

max, Friday, 3 September 2010 04:12 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah even for a movie about fonts helvetica was pretty fuckin boring

office (max) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 September 2010 04:14 (thirteen years ago) link

basically it was like "we interviewed some graphic designers about helvetica" "then we connected the scenes with shots of helvetica in use around a city" "fin"

shorn_blond.avi (dayo), Friday, 3 September 2010 04:15 (thirteen years ago) link

would have been really fascinating with like a 30 minute run time

office (max) (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 September 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

when I was in hs I was taking a class at the local city college and while in the library I remember hearing one guy tell another guy that a good way to make your essays hit the page req while staying in 12 pt font was to switch to arial. for some reason that is basically the only thing I think about when I think about arial.

iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I don't really get font snobbism

iatee, Friday, 3 September 2010 04:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Wow that "death to Helvetica" guy is a moron. Akzidenz isn't modernist because it was created in 1899? Uh...

wk, Friday, 3 September 2010 07:10 (thirteen years ago) link

o-O at that Gill Sans background - I had no idea!

Gravel Puzzleworth, Friday, 3 September 2010 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

the extras on the helvetica dvd (same designers talking but not about a font) are more interesting than the movie

caek, Friday, 3 September 2010 08:52 (thirteen years ago) link

liked the movie. not so much as a study of the font, but as an examination of the ideas and personalities of a bunch of designers.

a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 3 September 2010 08:54 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11517129

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/49467000/jpg/_49467848_gap2_comp304.jpg

Can't even believe the new/rejected logo was real. It looks like something from a 1st year design student.

buju_stanton (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:49 (thirteen years ago) link

Gapmoreliekcrapamirite???/
Bet it still cost a million dollars.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Could start a trend though. So I'm going to set up a graphic design company that only uses MS WordArt.

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 13:55 (thirteen years ago) link

ok i just made them a new logo

markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

http://i53.tinypic.com/11vjfqs.jpg

markers, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 14:04 (thirteen years ago) link

sadly, yes

dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

i wish i hadn’t just now experimented with changing stylesheets. how do i make it revert to normal ?

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:12 (four years ago) link

I went crying back to the arms of new.css

dip to dup (rob), Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

okay i just logged out and cleared my browser history, that seems to have worked.

budo jeru, Thursday, 16 April 2020 20:16 (four years ago) link

rob that was wise

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 16 April 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

three months pass...


one way i used to waste time was changing the fonts on my blog over and over. i think i settled on this one called arimo which was the closest i could get to classic helvetty.

― treeship., Thursday, April 16, 2020 4:04 PM (three months ago) bookmarkflaglink

update: the headings are still arimo on my blog, but i went with PT Sans for the body. this was a font developed by the russian government that for some reason is a default option on wordpress.

treeship., Friday, 14 August 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

voted anal

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

https://steidl.de//assets/images/-UTQ3ZSOYIinwfk9oDTU4fTpe2tJU718M1iIdmN3SzQfWuCm9jqmw9jI0o7aEKUE+QqjgKA==/9783958295025_1.jpg.png

The idea that unkerned Arial has come within 1000 km of a Steidl book cover is causing me distress.

This book is not yet published; one can only hope they'll fix it up before it goes to press.

<<<shudder>>>

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:11 (three years ago) link


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