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still don't have ps3 or xbox but God I loved Red Dead Redemption

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Revolver I mean

Lee Dorrian Gray (J0hn D.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you are a good man, that game is so much fun.

this better not suck

Jake Gyllenhaal needs more juggalo in it (jjjusten), Thursday, 4 February 2010 00:47 (fourteen years ago) link

this looks pretty good! beautiful even. let me get real here, those horses' asses looked impressive.

but i hope there is more going on w/ the gameplay than an old west GTA

goole, Thursday, 4 February 2010 01:21 (fourteen years ago) link

being able to set buildings on fire looks boss; I just hope it's not merely something the designer has to specially trigger, but that you can just chuck a fire bottle at any barn you like and poof.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 08:40 (fourteen years ago) link

I'd be very surprised if you could actually set buildings on fire. In that video the molotov cocktail looks like an animation that'll burn out over time. But that would be AWESOME.

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:20 (fourteen years ago) link

It would be awesome! This is one of the things that bugs me about playing for mass destruction in GTA: you can blow up cars but you can't reconfigure the city, which seems so un-sandbox-like (like, isn't the point of a sandbox to kick over your siblings' castles?)

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 12:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah, environment destruction is like the holy grail of sandbox games. Especially if it stayed like that and effected gameplay in the future, the way it (apparently) does in Battlefield. I remember some BS about gta4 saying something to that effect was in it. You can go into every building and you can blow up buildings and when you shoot a building the bullethole stays for 100 yrs and also it is a fun game

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:24 (fourteen years ago) link

also u sound like the meanest brother ever fwiw

antexit, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:25 (fourteen years ago) link

haha well when my kids play in sandboxes, they each build castles and then kick each others' over; it's not what I'd do but it seems to be lots of fun for them.

in Saints Row 2 you can blow up the subway train on the elevated tracks and if you hit it hard enough (I did it using cheats) it falls off the tracks and disrupts traffic. It's cool b/c it's a huge train, not just a bunch of cars like you can set up in GTA4. But leveling a building would be orders of magnitude more fun.

Red Dead Redemption would be a good place to try this b/c I expect the urban environments will be pretty sparse compared to e.g. Liberty City.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 13:36 (fourteen years ago) link

hopefully they'll turn their hand to another bully after this

cozen, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

antexit / Euler - a few points 1. Battlefield isn't a sandbox game. 2. in the last Red Faction game you could destroy pretty much everything (that was kind of the point of the game) and it stayed destroyed - but destroying stuff endlessly gets boring fast - it's hardly the "holy grail." 3. Permanent environmental destruction certainly will not be in Red Dead Redemption as they're using basically the exact same engine as GTA 4

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 4 February 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

well yeah destroying things endless does get boring fast, but so do sandbox games generally when all you do is mass destruction. The good sandbox games, like Bully, give you things to do that are fun besides just going nuts. But in an environment like Liberty City it'd be great if you could destroy buildings and then they'd be replaced with new ones, à la Sim City.

Euler, Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

a little more new footage (in this ad for Gamestops lame pre-order bonus deal)...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 4 February 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

lol at 'realistic physics' that involve people flying backwards when they get shot

smashing aspirant (milo z), Thursday, 4 February 2010 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I thought people did fly backwards when they were shot with shotguns. Have movies, video games, and Luis Guzman in Carlito's Way led me astray?

antexit, Saturday, 6 February 2010 13:44 (fourteen years ago) link

I've shot a big stuffed animal with a shotgun from 50 yards away and man did that thing fly.

calstars, Saturday, 6 February 2010 13:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i think milo's point was that the silliness of people putting a lot of work into developing a realistic engine, and making it a selling point of the game, all for the ultimate goal of making people fly backwards when they get shot.

rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 8 February 2010 18:52 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I just realised this game is probably going to have similar online modes to GTA4

0_o awesome

cozen, Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:32 (thirteen years ago) link

considering a PS3 just for this

Thierry Ennui (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 20 March 2010 11:49 (thirteen years ago) link


black jeans stained by (snoball), Saturday, 20 March 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

the MP lobby... is the game world

"Seriously, who'd have thought that something as dry as a game lobby could be exciting? Leave it to Rockstar to prove us all wrong. The Grand Theft Auto developer recently unveiled the oft rumoured but never confirmed, multiplayer portion of its next open-world saga, Red Dead Redemption -- and the lobby might be the game's most exciting element. Why? Because it's practically a Wild West MMORPG.

The lobby is a fully playable version of the entire game world that's populated with both random CPU characters and live gamers -- though the numbers will never approach World of Warcraft levels. In our visit, we created a "posse" with friends and roamed freely about the map, engaging in activities from hunting wild animals to hunting other gamers. There are even ad hoc missions (like besieging a desert ranch filled with bandits) that feel a lot like raids. Whether running from the sheriff or shooting wildlife in the desert, everything we do can net us experience points which are used to customize our appearance and upgrade our horse, weapons, and "title". There are also new multiplayer modes to unlock like the standard 16-player deathmatch and a team-based "capture the bag" (both of which start with a spectacular face-to-face quick-draw duel). But. to be honest, we didn't spend a lot of time with those other modes, because we couldn't pry ourselves away from the lobby!"

Picture 1: Two players on a horse-drawn carriage. "The lobby is like a limit-free version of GTA IV's free roam mode set against a brilliantly atmospheric Wild West backdrop."

Picture 2: Player as Sheriff, points gun at camera; another player waits to shot him in the back. "Once we joined a party-- er, "posse" -- we were in constant communication with teammates."

Picture 3: 3 on 5 Gunfight near the wreckage of an abandoned church in the desert. "Anyone can travel to any point on the map (including building interiors), regardless of the location of lobby visitors."

cozen, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link

This game is going to pwn my life

antexit, Sunday, 28 March 2010 13:40 (thirteen years ago) link

This game is going to give meaning to my life.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Sunday, 28 March 2010 19:48 (thirteen years ago) link

This game probably won't affect my life much but I'm looking forward to it.

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

chances of me not going outlaw immediately upon starting this approx 0%, with rounding. the old west is not the kinda place to be a good guy imo.

aarrissi-a-roni, Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link

I always play moral choice games as a good guy with a cruel streak.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Sunday, 28 March 2010 20:17 (thirteen years ago) link

I am officially mega-psyched about this game

antexit, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:17 (thirteen years ago) link

this looks a lot better than call of juarez 2. wish i had a ps3.

sonderangerbot, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:34 (thirteen years ago) link

Why do people keep saying ps3? Is this an exclusive? Do third-party exclusives still exist?

antexit, Monday, 29 March 2010 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Def not an exclusive. I'm already preordered for the 360.

Mordy, Monday, 29 March 2010 13:00 (thirteen years ago) link

uh i just picked that up in this thread somehow, you're right obviously and i need coffee. good news!

sonderangerbot, Monday, 29 March 2010 13:04 (thirteen years ago) link

etrian odysseus (cozen), Saturday, 3 April 2010 10:21 (thirteen years ago) link

oh man

bracken free ditch (Ste), Saturday, 3 April 2010 16:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Multiplayer Free Roam trailer...

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ye gods that looks incredible. ilg posse in effect

antexit, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link

antexit, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link

If I get this when it comes out, it's just going to totally take over every free second of my existence, right?

Convenience Fish (snoball), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link

Pretty sure I'm going to spend hours just wandering around doing side missions.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:36 (thirteen years ago) link

"go on a gentle hunt together"

am *really* looking forward to this.

problem chimp (Porkpie), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:38 (thirteen years ago) link

i am so so pumped for this. if this game doesn't absolutely rule i will never allow myself to dream again.

aarrissi-a-roni, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link

The good thing about this coming out in late May is I don't know of a single other game that is coming out till September or maybe October that I have any interest in, so if it lives up to the videos, I should have plenty of time to get the most out of it.

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:48 (thirteen years ago) link

also near my birthday; boosts the chance that I might actually get this game

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:49 (thirteen years ago) link

have thought exactly the same jeff

aarrissi-a-roni, Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:50 (thirteen years ago) link

if i do get this i think i'll have to resign myself to not finishing it or seeing 'everything', and just look at it like i'm going wander around deadwood for an hour or two. otherwise it might drive me insane.

emotional radiohead whatever (Jordan), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:51 (thirteen years ago) link

"go on a gentle hunt together"

If your group is anything like the guys I used to game with, that'll last about 30 seconds into the first dispute re:loot. Then it'll turn into Reservoir Dogs, Wild West style.

Convenience Fish (snoball), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:54 (thirteen years ago) link

oh and if multiplayer games can be customised to only allow knives and dynamite as in Lucasarts Outlaws, then this should be fun fun fun

Convenience Fish (snoball), Thursday, 8 April 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link

this looks great, but i think i'll have to wait until i finish off lost planet 2 and smg 2

jeff, Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link

shameful - I forgot about Super Mario Galaxy 2 and Sin & Punishment 2

Jeff LeVine, Thursday, 8 April 2010 21:40 (thirteen years ago) link

** Each NPC follows their own routine and way of a life. For example,
one spend all day working in a blacksmith, then at closing time head
off to the saloon for a couple drinks before going home.
*** NPCs will converse with each other
**** You can converse with NPCs yourself
** NPCs can hold grudges. A man you beat up in the saloon may come back later with a gun.
** NPC houses can be broken into and robbed
*** NPCs store possessions in boxes and trunks in their houses.
** NPC towns can be wiped out and made into ghost towns
*** Ghost towns will revive in 2-3 in-game days
** In the wilderness rarely a minute passes without seeing some indication of an NPC
*** NPCs play an important part of free roaming, through random encounters
**** NPCs can be found doing a large assortment of things, from
ambushes to gunfights to hostage scenarios to simple things like
sitting around a campfire telling stories of Marston's earlier exploits
* Bank Robbing
** Initiated by having a gun drawn in a bank
* Dueling
** Can't duel everybody (like old women), but you can duel other gunslingers

etrian odysseus (cozen), Thursday, 8 April 2010 22:27 (thirteen years ago) link

I’m going to need a PS5 version of RDR2 running at a consistent 60fps first. (And thus marks my first ILG post, I think?)

spastic heritage, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:05 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

People a talkin' about a new logo just introduced at Rockstar for "Red Dead Redemption" ...

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:23 (seven months ago) link

That's pretty cool - never played it and dove into RDR2 first, which as a prequel, makes playing RDR1 remastered a "sequel" of sorts that will slot in perfectly once it's out.

octobeard, Thursday, 27 July 2023 18:38 (seven months ago) link

I've got a huge backlog of games great and small, but even though I can't imagine a remaster/remake is particularly imminent, if it dropped tomorrow it would be at the top of my queue.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 July 2023 12:35 (seven months ago) link

Allowing Morgan to be able to swim, but not Marston since he wasn't able to in RDR1, was both trolling and a brilliant move at keeping continuity.

Though I sure hope the GTA6 characters can swim in Vice City.

pplains, Friday, 28 July 2023 14:30 (seven months ago) link

lol it looks like Rockstar is pulling a Nintendo, releasing a straight port of the 13-year old Red Dead Redemption to PS4 and Switch for a very contemporary $50. It includes the Undead Nightmare DLC and ... that's it. No remaster, no remake, no 60fps, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:06 (six months ago) link

You mean PS5?

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 07:16 (six months ago) link

No! It's being released for Switch and *PS4*! Which of course can play it, but I mean, a 13-year old game getting belatedly re-released for ... the previous console generation that's not even being made anymore?

Saw a comment that it may be cheaper to buy an old PS3 and a copy of the game.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:14 (six months ago) link

grimly amusing that the reason it's not being released for the current-gen xboxes is because microsoft's backward compatibility / fps boost feature means that rdr already runs at 4k there if you have a copy of the 360 version

meanwhile rockstar/take two are trying to squeeze 50 bucks out of everyone else for a 'remaster' that's at best gonna be exactly what xbox owners get for free

good to see that the universally appalled reaction to their gta remasters hasn't soured them on the idea of money for old lassos

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:30 (six months ago) link

Was this even billed as a remaster? I could have sworn I saw that it was just a straight port!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:34 (six months ago) link

And once again, Rockstar (no doubt busy with GTAVI) isn't even handling it themselves, they are outsourcing it. What could go wrong? Again?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:36 (six months ago) link

i'd assume that since it's coming to ps4/5 there might be the possibility of running it at 4k which you might stretch the definition of remaster to encompass

but given their history of shocking laziness i guess it's entirely possible it'll top out at 720p

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 12:49 (six months ago) link

The demo looks very PS3 graphics wise

calstars, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 13:20 (six months ago) link

GTA 4 remains the game that rockstar doesn’t want anyone to play anymore

calstars, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 13:21 (six months ago) link

I'm bummed, because I was looking forward to it, but not for $50. Or $40. Or anything over, I dunno, $20. If RDR2 is (often) $20 and one of the most technologically accomplished games of all time, then no way am I paying more than that for a (last gen!) port of a very old game, unless it runs like a miracle or something. $50 is what you pay for, like, a boutique limited edition physical reissue.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 13:27 (six months ago) link

I'm bummed because this was it. If there's ever a RDR3, they won't start producing it until 2030. I doubt they'll remaster RDR2 for the PS7 or whatever if they can't be bothered to do this one.

Hell, you already have half of the game's setting redone. How much longer would it take to scope out Mexico and make the horses gallop more lifelike?

pplains, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 16:49 (six months ago) link

And even if it took a bit of work to (literally) bring it up to speed, expand the map a bit, add some more connective tissue to the sequel/prequel, bump it to 60fps, etc., at least they could justify $50. But hell, they haven't even unlocked RDR2 to 60 fps. This is such low effort it's almost trolling.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 17:01 (six months ago) link

Sounds like this port is perfectly fine, but as expected absolutely nothing more than that, a totally bare minimum effort, which is a bummer. Had they spiffed it up a bit I would have happily bought it at full price; I loved the second game and I've never played this one. But for $50, when a modern technological masterpiece like RDR2 can be purchased for $20, or The Last of Us Part 1 justifies its high price by offering a completely (re) polished current gen version? Sigh.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 August 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link

Really disappointed this wasn’t ported to PC, where at least modders could have brought it up to snuff and added new content.

blatherskite, Thursday, 17 August 2023 17:47 (six months ago) link

one month passes...

Apparently they added 60fps and 4k to the PS5 version of Red Dead 1. Why didn't they have that shit ready at release just a few weeks ago?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 12:11 (four months ago) link

wow crack that whip bossman. maybe because they were already worked to the bone under an unrealistic deadline???

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:16 (four months ago) link

guessing they prob did have it ready they just wanted to make sure the base version was running good before pushing it

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:32 (four months ago) link

so selfish!!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:45 (four months ago) link

This is the bare-bones 2013 port we're talking about, which was all but surprise-dropped for Switch and PS4, priced at a shocking premium. If it was that close to being ready they should have just waited a month, it's not like it was part of some coordinated million dollar multi-month marketing campaign.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:49 (four months ago) link

guessing they prob did have it ready they just wanted to make sure the base version was running good before pushing it

― lag∞n, Wednesday, October 4, 2023 9:32 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:52 (four months ago) link

That makes sense, I guess. Anyway, upgraded performance is certainly a greater incentive to get the game than it was before, though it's still way overpriced.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 13:57 (four months ago) link

releases would go smoother if that was the general approach, turning on advanced tech on incrementally and then optimizing between steps, but they dont do that because it would be bad from a marketing perspective if they had to be all just wait a few months and the game will be better, of course they do often have to do that anyway when they ship broken shit

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:02 (four months ago) link

I honestly have no idea how much work it takes or doesn't take to unlock/increase the frame rate of a 13-year old game. Granted, this port wasn't even released for the PS5, just for the PS4 and Switch, so I guess a modest and slightly belated PS5-only upgrade by way of the PS4 version is an OK perk.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:09 (four months ago) link

i think compared to most video game dev things is not that much work but running that stuff on your console is very resource intensive so theyd want to make sure they have it dialed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:14 (four months ago) link

Saw someone say (think it was digital foudnry) the ps4 port seemed to be an afterthought for a switch original release based on performance. Makes sense of the timeline (and the fact that the ps4 was literally exactly the same as the switch at launch despite its ability to do higher resolution/other things with minimal technical work).

xp Tracer, I can see why you and gyac are friends

H.P, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 14:16 (four months ago) link


Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:54 (four months ago) link

I don’t know anything about this game but my history professor friend wrote a book about it

Heez, Monday, 16 October 2023 20:06 (four months ago) link

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