what are barack obama's flaws?

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no its cool i saw the populism without pitchforks in the url before i clicked

some sort of sweetpea New Deal (Lamp), Sunday, 26 October 2008 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Him being the antichrist could be a problem, apparently.

http://www.goodasyou.org/good_as_you/images/Picture%205-166.jpg

(lol)

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Topeka KS 66604

imperial management trainee (latebloomer), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL at one medieval thought accusing something incredibly dense like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminianism of being satanistic.

StanM, Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Amen.

ℵℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜℜ℘! (Curt1s Stephens), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

amen xp!

8 HOOS Dog (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Sunday, 26 October 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll amen if the screed writer can learn to spell 'worshipped'. HAHA.

Bedframes and Broomsticks (suzy), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:18 (fifteen years ago) link

the most impressively irritating thing in the world is the font used by Phelps' propaganda posters

restraint and blindness (Just got offed), Monday, 27 October 2008 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

i like obama a lot but some of his supporters' eagerness to justify daleyism as "just politics" or "just what you gotta do to get elected" is seriously disturbing.

J.D., Monday, 27 October 2008 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I like that the Westboro thing is headed as a news release. Front page of the next day's New York Times: "BARACK OBAMA IS ANTICHRIST."

Merdeyeux, Monday, 27 October 2008 02:36 (fifteen years ago) link

J.D. what "daleyism" are you referring to?

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 27 October 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

mixing up Fred Sanford & George Jefferson

ban or astroban? (Curt1s Stephens), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:29 (fifteen years ago) link

too much of a fuckin badass

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

overweeningly handsome

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

overly unflappable

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

embarrassingly thoughtful

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

skinny legs

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

ballhog

my other son is a zamboni (gbx), Monday, 3 November 2008 18:32 (fifteen years ago) link

insufficiently cruel

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

digustingly considerate

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

disappointingly pragmatic

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

wait, wtf @ "communitarian" being a bad word? That's a totally common category in contemporary political philosophy, used for those who see communities of individuals rather than isolated individuals as politically central. Or did I miss some kind of joke, with the Hitler references and all?

Euler, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

yep, no one deifying him on ILX.

Dr Morbius, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

it's called glee, morbius

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

pure, unadulterated sheer fucking glee

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 November 2008 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

morbs tomorrow i will toast to your unrivaled principle and then get drunk

on wednesday i will be hung over

on thursday and thereafter it will be l-r: obama, BIG HOOS
http://nynerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/14-cat-meets-eagle.JPG

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

poor kitty gonna get raped

Black Seinfeld (HI DERE), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

for "The Wire" multitudes:

Obama as Tommy Carcetti

Obama’s victory is consequently a watershed in American politics, and it should be enthusiastically celebrated for that reason alone....
The grim reality, however, is that Obama (like Carcetti) will spend his first term campaigning for his second term, a campaign he actually began in his acceptance speech in Chicago on election night... If he wins a second term, he’ll spend it shoring up the prospects of both the Democrats in Congress and his aspiring Democratic successor to the throne--again, by cultivating the “center.”

Obama will undoubtedly be better than Bush was and better than McCain would have been, and the differences matter. But a realistic assessment of the scope of those differences is imperative. Without it, people who really care about changing this country’s direction will end up counting on one man, Obama, instead of on themselves to bring about the change we need. Those people will inevitably be disappointed.

...All told, the outlook for a new day in America is poor. The bottom line is this: When you think Barack Obama, think Tommy Carcetti. He probably has a good heart, but he is confronting a vast array of institutional forces aimed at preventing him or anyone else in power from doing the right thing. To have any chance of getting the results we want out of his administration, we cannot just sit back and expect him to work his magic. We must organize, agitate, and pursue independent initiatives (like ballot measures) to get what we want (like single-payer healthcare) at the state level. And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage go to waste.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

what are barack obama's flaws? [Started by and what in April 2008, last updated Thursday, November 6, 2008 11:40 AM by Dr Morbius on I Love Everything] 17 new answers

gabbneb, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

And we must carefully scrutinize Obama’s every move and harass and harangue him relentlessly just as if he were John McCain or George Bush. From the point of view of every American left of center, the principal advantage of Obama over McCain is that it is at least possible that he will listen to us. We cannot let that advantage our shitty blogs go to waste.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Greenwald's on it already on his shitty left wing blog.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh great, the WBC is going to picket Obama's grandmother's funeral. (don't wanna link to their site though)

StanM, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Alfred, do you think Obama should work on repealing DOMA before or after he gets to work on the economy, energy independence, and, say, getting the troops home from Iraq? I say this with the belief that DOMA is bullshit.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama (like Carcetti) will spend his first term campaigning for his second term

Maybe a minor quibble, but this is kind of off, since Carcetti was leapfrogging to a higher office (from mayor to governor) in a 2 year span, not trying to ensure his chances of being re-elected to the same. And doesn't every prez immediate begin sweating their 2nd term the moment they start their first? There's kind of a huge difference between being so ambitiously careerist that you're too busy pursuing the next job to be good at the current one, and getting to the highest possible post and making moves to try to stay there longer (which usually involve being good at that job). Still, I enjoy the implicit parallel that a white man getting elected to run Baltimore is kind of like a black man getting elected to run America. And of course Obama should be carefully scrutinized, just like every president.

some dude, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Alfred, do you think Obama should work on repealing DOMA before or after he gets to work on the economy, energy independence, and, say, getting the troops home from Iraq? I say this with the belief that DOMA is bullshit

Not at all, and, regrettably, I'm not sure it's even one of his campaign promises. I was more interested in the second part of Greenwald's argument.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

ah gotcha.

Combine all that with the fact that only a small minority is actually affected by DOMA's injustices, that many Democrats will insist none of this is worth the "risk," and that many Obama supporters will refuse to criticize anything he does (marvel at the number of commenters here saying that Obama's choice of Rahm Emanuel as Chief of Staff is right because . . . it is Obama's choice -- just look at this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this).

and yeah i agree, refusing to criticize the dude is ridiculous, but harass and harangue him relentlessly isn't much better.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 16:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Que, if he takes a stand or is going to back sign legislation you disagree with, are you going to write or phone? That's all "harass and harangue" means.

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 November 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

+ or march or...

Dr Morbius, Thursday, 6 November 2008 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess it probably depends on the legislation & the position he takes on it, etc. etc. i don't give politicians blank checks. . . but nor do i have a chip on my shoulder about them.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i also reserve the right to respectfully disagree with said dude

Mr. Que, Thursday, 6 November 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama and Congressional Democrats deserve some time to figure out what they will do and what they will prioritize. It's irrational to criticize them for things they haven't done. It's probably politically wise for the first steps they take to be related to the economy, and there are numerous other non-economic priorities of vital importance that nobody should wait for (restoring habeas corpus, closing Guantanamo, imposing a government-wide ban on torture). But repealing DOMA, and certainly its most destructive part, is a quick and important way to establish who they are, and doing that is consistent with, not contrary to, prevailing political sentiment.

truth bombastic and really fantastic

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 November 2008 19:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm writing a letter to Messrs. Elect & Pelosi & Reid today in this regard.

HOOS HOOS HOOS on the autosteen (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Thursday, 6 November 2008 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Obama's 10 Worst Ideas

❤ⓛⓞⓥⓔ❤ (CaptainLorax), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Obama cannot bring change to Washington. There is no one in the Washington crowd that he can appoint who is capable of bringing change. If Obama were to reach outside the usual crowd, anyone suspected of being a bringer of change could not get confirmed by the Senate. Powerful interest groups--AIPAC, the military-security complex, Wall Street--use their political influence to block unacceptable appointments.

As Alexander Cockburn said of Obama in a pre-election column, column “never has the dead hand of the past had a ‘reform’ candidate so firmly by the windpipe.” Obama confirmed Cockburn’s verdict in his first press conference as president-elect. Disregarding the unanimous US National Intelligence Estimate, which concluded that Iran stopped working on nuclear weapons five years ago, and ignoring the continued certification by the International Atomic Energy Agency that none of the nuclear material for Iran’s civilian nuclear reactor has been diverted to weapons use, Obama sallied forth with the Israel Lobby’s propaganda and accused Iran of “development of a nuclear weapon” and vowing “to prevent that from happening.”

The change that is coming to America has nothing to do with Obama. Change is coming from the financial crisis brought on by Wall Street greed and irresponsibility, from the eroding role of the US dollar as reserve currency, from countless mortgage foreclosures, from the offshoring of millions of America’s best jobs, from a deepening recession, from pillars of American manufacturing--Ford and GM--begging the government for taxpayers’ money to stay alive, and from budget and trade deficits that are too large to be closed by normal means....

The change that is coming is the end of American empire. The hegemon has run out of money and influence. Obama as “America’s First Black President” will lift hopes and, thus, allow the act to be carried on a little longer. But the New American Century is already over.

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts11102008.html

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

THE HEGEMON

Uncle Shavedlongcock (max), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

pika pika!

M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

if you prefer the Titanic, mon, that works

Dr Morbius, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

# what are barack obama's flaws? [Started by and what in April 2008, last updated 4 minutes ago] 5 new answers
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nelson algreen (get bent), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul Craig Roberts is probably right in his overall conclusions, but his piece doesn't exactly speak to Obama's flaws so much as the situation he will find himself in and the limits placed on his choices. Within the context of the office and what can be done right now, Obama will still be a first class president.

Aimless, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

Paul Craig Roberts, former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration and WSJ & National Review ed:

TOMBOT, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link


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