in the 2k10 i am learning to make cocktails. this is my mixology thread

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so-so sounds good

but then again i don't know shit about cocktails so

big hoos state of mind (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 February 2010 04:24 (fourteen years ago) link

jordan if you enjoy the flavor of gin and want something that will make it smooth and drinkable without covering it the so-so does that.

dan m, does the polish cider call for hard cider or regular cider? what proportions would you use?

i have a bunch of GENEVER recipes coming up. genever is a serious thing imo.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 2 February 2010 04:58 (fourteen years ago) link

INGREDIENTS UPDATE: genever.

GENEVER!

http://feteafete.com/blog/Bols%20Genever%20bottle.jpg

i'm starting to realize that this stuff is kind of amazing. for those who don't know, it's the dutch precursor to gin, except where gin became neutral spirits distilled again with juniper and other flavors, genever is a sweeter, maltier spirit featuring those same flavorings. tasting it back to back with gin is really instructive.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2010 03:56 (fourteen years ago) link

RECIPE FIFTEEN: the holland house cocktail

1.75 oz. genever
.75 oz. dry vermouth
.5 oz. lemon juice
.25 oz. maraschino liqueur

shake w/ice and strain, garnish with a lemon twist.

those with a keen eye for such things will recognize this as a riff on the gin/lemon/maraschino in the aviation cocktail. but for my money the holland house has all the aviation's features while being a MUCH richer, more interesting, more complex drink. smooth as hell and really tasty.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2010 03:59 (fourteen years ago) link

one more for tonight:

RECIPE SIXTEEN: the fluyt (that's "floight" (i think), a type of dutch sailing ship)

2 oz. genever
1 oz. cognac
.5 oz. dry vermouth
5 dashes peychaud's
2 dashes fee whiskey barrel aged
1 sugar cube (og recipe calls for demerara sugar cube so uh fire up amazon.com and get on that)
green chartreuse for rinsing

chill an old-fashioned glass. in a mixing glass add the sugar cube and peychaud's and muddle. add the genever, cognac, vermouth, and whiskey barrel aged bitters. add ice and stir. get the old-fashioned glass and rinse w/chartreuse. strain the mixture into the glass and garnish with a lemon twist.

a chartreuse rinse, genever, and two kinds of bitters? sign me the hell up. this is an invention from rumdood.com and imo it does a nice job complimenting the flavor of the genever in some sort of mutant sazerac format.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 4 February 2010 05:24 (fourteen years ago) link

the things you find browsing cocktaildb because you're worried about the freshness of your bottle of lillet blanc:

RECIPE SEVENTEEN: the roy howard cocktail (nb i have no idea who roy howard is)

2 oz. lillet blanc
.75 oz. brandy
.75 oz. fresh orange juice
.25 oz. grenadine

shake over ice and strain.

you know what this is good for? this is good for when you don't actually feel like drinking. what would actually be fun as hell would be to make a big pitcher of this and eat some fuckin' brunch.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 04:47 (fourteen years ago) link

hey cad, any good simple recipes for campari? I remember having a sprite and campari during a really hot and humid summer evening in beijing, it really /really/ hit the spot and the bitterness kept it from being to sweet (not a mixologist so don't really have any mixers, tbh)

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 04:49 (fourteen years ago) link

excellent question--campari is an awesome thing imo. the basic campari recipes are pretty much what you'd expect--campari and soda water or campari and orange juice in a 1/3 - 2/3 liquor/mixer ratio. sprite would certainly work like soda water. but for not too much money you can pick up some gin and some sweet (red) vermouth and make a negroni which has to be one of the best rocks cocktails out there and hit the same refreshing vibe with a bit more of a kick.

beyond that, ted haigh's book has the boulevardier which is 1.5 bourbon/1 campri/1 sweet vermouth, stir and strain--i'd consider trying that. lots of other things use campari as their bitters component so they're using about 1/4 oz. of it while gin or whiskey or something is the dominant spirit.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:11 (fourteen years ago) link

wow those sound good - the hot and humid season is coming up so I'm definitely thinking of picking up a bottle to help deal - already have a bottle of bourbon too!

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:16 (fourteen years ago) link

some Campari classics:

Negroni is a super classic - equal parts gin, sweet vermouth, and campari, served up

Americano - equal parts sweet vermouth and campari, topped w/ club soda and served over ice

there's also the Negroni Sbagliato, the "wrong" negroni, with an ounce each of campari and sweet vermouth and 2oz prosecco, served over ice w/ an orange slice in a balloon glass - delicious!

Pretty much anything w/ campari should be garnished w/ a lemon twist or slice of orange.

I DIED, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:49 (fourteen years ago) link

Aperol is sort of a sweeter lightweight Campari, which can make it easier to mix with. I love it on the rocks w/ 1/4oz orgeat and 1/2oz lemon juice.

I DIED, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link

so my local paper's weekly bars/drinking column had a piece on the 500th anniversary of benedictine, featuring some local concoctions that use it. i had some good luck making a couple of them tonight:

RECIPE EIGHTEEN: king's yellow

(from eastern standard restaurant, a good place imo. i assume the name comes from the color of this one when you mix it up?)

1.5 oz. gin
.75 oz. dry vermouth
.75 oz. benedictine
1 dash orange bitters
apricot liqueur for rinsing

combine the gin, vermouth, benedictine, and orange bitters, add ice and stir. then grab a chilled cocktail glass and rinse it with some apricot liqueur, leaving a little pool in the bottom. strain your mixture into the glass. garnish with a generous lemon twist, making sure to get plenty of lemon oil on the surface.

i was never the biggest benedictine fan but this cocktail and the next one both offer pretty interesting uses of it. this is a full-bodied drink with strong fruit notes and good balance.

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 February 2010 03:07 (fourteen years ago) link

RECIPE NINETEEN: the chrysanthemum

this is from an excellent french/cuban restaurant called chez henri

1.5 oz. dry vermouth
.75 oz. benedictine
3 dashes (abt 3/8 tsp) pastis (i use herbsaint)

stir over ice and strain into a cocktail glass.

surprisingly complex for a drink with three ingredients, this is easy to make, light, and would be perfect before dinner.

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 February 2010 03:11 (fourteen years ago) link

RECIPE TWENTY: ride the pink horse

from the same article--only prob is the recipe is incomplete (in that they don't tell you what to do with everything). anyway, they're making it at noir bar, a hotel bar in harvard square. i will reproduce what the paper told me and my subs and interpretations.

1.5 oz. benedictine
22 dashes (!) angostura
.5 oz. peach brandy (sub apricot liqueur)
"2 lemon wedges" (sub .25 oz. fresh lemon juice)
"2 cinnamon sticks" (sub a couple shakes from my cinnamon spice jar)
"1 dash almond syrup" (sub .25 oz. maraschino)

combine in a rocks glass and stir with ice. the original garnish was a dehydrated orange slice, to which i say "lol"

from the photo accompanying the article we know it's a rocks drink. not clear what happened to the cinnamon sticks or lemon wedges in the original recipe, a problem i solved by liquidating and powdering everything. i'm not necessarily going to endorse this as a brilliant drink, but it is assuredly the most angostura you're going to consume anytime soon, and as i type this i find myself enjoying each sip of what is a truly strange concoction.

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 February 2010 03:42 (fourteen years ago) link

next boston fap = cocktai77 party imo

nagl wayne (J0rdan S.), Monday, 15 February 2010 03:43 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^wld support!

btw there is cause for celebration in the cad residence tonight, because over the weekend i got to purchase some COUPES!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4357751005_63d3d6bc58.jpg

the coupe is appropriate any time a cocktail glass is called for. imo it's more attractive than the regular conical cocktail glass, it's a more manageable size and height, and it's easier to drink out of. <3 coupes.

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 February 2010 04:09 (fourteen years ago) link

nice!

DJ NAIR (tehresa), Monday, 15 February 2010 04:15 (fourteen years ago) link

so tonight i am attending gin cocktail class at the boston shaker. i leave you with these useful words i read recently:

"I like drinking. Not stinking drunk. Not mean drunk. Not out-of-control drunk. Not Mel Gibson, David Hasselhoff or Lindsay Lohan drunk. And certainly not college drunk (fill in your own room spinning, nauseating, swearing you'll never, ever drink again episode here). Unnecessary. Bad form. Mistake.

But how about just a little drunk. Laugh-out-loud-drunk. Who gives a crap? drunk. Let's-get-naked-and-jump-in-the-ocean drunk. Come to think of it, just drunk enough to briefly overlook the mountain of responsibility we face daily. Isn't that what alcohol was intended for?"

call all destroyer, Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:58 (fourteen years ago) link

do you like rye? have you ever wanted to dress your rye up a bit, but not too much?

RECIPE TWENTY-ONE: the police gazette cocktail

.25 oz. rye (old overholt imo)
.25 oz. dolin blanc vermouth (sub noilly prat dry)
.25 oz. senior's orange curacao di curacao (sub cointreau)
.25 oz. maraschino liquor
1 maraschino cherry (uhhhhh optional)
1 dash angostura bitters
1 dash regans' orange bitters no. 6 (sub fee's orange)

stir the rye, maraschino, vermouth, and cointreau over ice and strain. add the cherry if you are weird, and then dash the bitters on top of the drink.

ok, with a name like that why wouldn't you make it? apparently the police gazette was a magazine with true crime stories, girlie pictures, and cocktail recipes (and quite possibly only those three things). like i said the rye is still at the forefront and the effect of everything else is one of v. subtle modification. still, would make again.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 02:39 (fourteen years ago) link

SORRY! 2.5 oz. rye

call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 02:40 (fourteen years ago) link

a little serendipity over the past two days--last night, in gin cocktail class, we were talking about flamed citrus zest and the dude who was running the class mentioned a cocktail called the camino, which was created at a restaurant around here called craigie on main. so today i did some idle googling and got the recipe, which is kind of intense:

RECIPE TWENTY-TWO: the camino

1.5 oz. rittenhouse rye (sub old overholt)
1 oz. housemade ambre vermouth (sub noilly ambre if you go to france, carpano antica if you have a lot of money, lillet blank if you're me)
.5 oz. tremontis mirto dell'isola di sardegna myrtle berry liqueur
2 dashes angostura
2 dashes orange bitters

stir over ice, strain into a chilled rocks glass, garnish with a flamed orange peel.

so anyway, i looked at that recipe and was like "ok, not happening anytime soon." then, on the way home from work, and accident caused me to get off the highway early and pass near a big liquor store i'd be meaning to go to for a while. what is there on a bottom shelf but a single bottle of tremontis mirto? i take it as a sign, spend more money than i intended to, and head home.

mirto is indeed made from myrtle berries--if this bottle is an indication of the overall "thing" it's sweet, dark, and somewhat herbal-y. nice stuff.

GENERAL ASIDE FOR THIS THREAD: in addition to (hopefully) encouraging participation, this thread is basically my personal recipe list (i check it all the time when i'm trying to remember stuff). i don't want to be weird posting a bunch of things that no one can make. that being said, this is a cool drink--sweet with a nice warming alcohol burn, VERY easy going down. if you find yourself in an appropriately equipped bar or just say "damn i should have some myrtle berry liqueur around" i would recommend this up there with anything i have ever made. and i did subs for the two most voluminous ingredients.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 27 February 2010 03:39 (fourteen years ago) link

hey guys, i've been working hard mixing drinks and trying stuff, but wasn't positive anything deserved to be posted here until tonight.

RECIPE TWENTY-THREE: the periodista

1.5 oz. rum (white rum often specified, i got much better results with flor de cana gold rum)
.5 oz. lime juice
.25 oz. apricot liqueuer
.25 oz. triple sec

OPTIONAL: .5 tsp superfine sugar

shake all ingredients with ice and strain, garnish with lime.

this is a great drink--amazing how much just that splash of apricot transforms everything. tonight i made two versions back to back, one with no sugar and one with. sugar is usually specified in this recipe but i'd encourage you to try it both ways. i don't like things very sweet and my preference would run to the sugar-free, but i can certainly recognize the validity of the sweet version. may also depend on which apricot product you use; my rothman and winter is quite sweet imo and there could be drier ones out there.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:27 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm going to make this right now!

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, before I start, maybe you can offer advice. Which rum should I use? Here's what I have:

Dark Jamaican (Myers)
Light Puerto Rican (Bacardi)
Gold Puerto Rican (Bacardi)
Appleton Jamaican
Demerara (El Dorado 12 year)
Barbados (Mount Gay)
151 (Bacardi)

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:30 (fourteen years ago) link

And I'm going to substitute Cointreau for Triple Sec, which I don't have.

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:31 (fourteen years ago) link

ok well youre in luck on one thing--cointreau technically is triple sec; iirc they removed tripe sec from the label cause too many inferior products were using it

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

with the caveat that i really know fuck all about rums i'd try your gold bacardi. also which appleton do you have? i didn't get a great drink out of this with white appleton but if you have one of their aged ones that could work.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:34 (fourteen years ago) link

It's not a white. It's just Appleton Estate, and says "V/X Estate Distilled Hand Blended" at the top.

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

that might be good! for first attempt i'd prob still say bacardi gold and then experiment from there

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

fwiw i have been trying to figure out like "what is a sensible selection of rums to own" and it seems totally hopeless (i.e. i'm going to end up owning like 15 bottles)

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:38 (fourteen years ago) link

My rums are completely based off of what I need to make tiki drinks. My gf is obsessed with them and I'm more than willing to oblige, so we always have a variety of rums on hand, along with all sorts of juices. I should post a picture of our tiki mugs here sometime, it's starting to get ridiculous!

*mixing*

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I went with the Gold. This is GOOD!

I feel absolute embarrasment and humiliation within the msgbrd context (Z S), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:54 (fourteen years ago) link

glad you like it!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 02:58 (fourteen years ago) link

i have been trying to figure out like "what is a sensible selection of rums to own"

Pampero Aniversario
Flor De Cana at least 7 years
Matusalen maybe? so much of the better rum is only in other countries. anything from Nicaragua I've had has been good.

stay away from Pyrat unless you like heavy spicing

sleeve, Wednesday, 10 March 2010 03:24 (fourteen years ago) link

ok so i made the negroni this past weekend as CAD notated it at the top of the thread and thought it tasted horrid when using equal parts of the three liquors but a lot better with less campari/more vermouth. campari is maybe too bitter for my taste but now i have most of a bottle of it left over i'd like to try it in other things

im armond white btw (donna rouge), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

i also made the coffee hopper, which calls for equal parts creme de menthe, coffee liqueur (i used kahlua) and cream (i used half and half), shaken w/ ice. imagine a peppermint patty that gets you a little buzzed.

im armond white btw (donna rouge), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

campari's definitely an acquired taste, i think the more you have it, the more you like it

just sayin, Thursday, 11 March 2010 09:54 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, trying this out right now (the 'licia albanese' - build 3 pt gin:1 pt campari) - thinking this may grow on me yet

all-beef patty hearst (donna rouge), Friday, 12 March 2010 03:35 (fourteen years ago) link

best way to get used to Campari is, I think, in weak Campari & sodas, once you take to it you're hooked but if not, no worries.

I DIED, Friday, 12 March 2010 08:15 (fourteen years ago) link

I had a good Bronx cocktail tonight, which I have pretty regularly - delicious! Used to be very popular.

2oz gin
1oz orange juice
1/2oz sweet vermouth
1/2oz dry vermouth

Followed it up with the much rarer Brooklyn cocktail:

2oz rye
1oz dry vermouth
Dash of maraschino liqueur
Dash of Amer Picon

also excellent, thank god Amer Picon is available again

I DIED, Friday, 12 March 2010 08:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i am actually going on a mission to find amer picon later today.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 12:34 (fourteen years ago) link

also glad you're sticking with it, donna rouge--you'll be drinking straight fernet branca in no time :)

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 12:35 (fourteen years ago) link

I just came on this thread to post about the negroni but see that it's already been mentioned! Well done, fellows.

gabourey voltaire (Stevie D), Friday, 12 March 2010 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Manhattans have been ruling at my place lately. I went out to a bar in LA - the Edison, for those familiar - a few weeks ago, and they make their Manhattans with some sort of black cherry that was not a maraschino. It was amazing how much the taste changed without that small amount of the red sugar water!

at home, its been 3 parts Bookers (133 proof), 1 part sweet vermouth, three dashes Angostura, and a maraschino over crushed ice. So f-ing good.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 12 March 2010 21:03 (fourteen years ago) link

hmm i wonder if it was a "real" maraschino as opposed to those gross mass-produced ones

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:08 (fourteen years ago) link

possibly, but it appeared to be a black cherry. I am unaware of the difference b/t real and the mass-pro'd maraschinos.

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 12 March 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

a real one would be a cherry soaked in maraschino liqueur--no artificial color or sweetener or whathaveyou.

call all destroyer, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

may have been one of these, if not housemade:

http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/2/0/0/15a/4/AAAAAl9BmaMAAAAAAVpKRQ.jpg

I DIED, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

the excellent book Raising The Bar by Nick Mautone, published a few years ago, has a great recipe for making maraschino cherries - I make a big batch twice a year or so and keep them in armagnac, it's pretty easy and they last indefinitely.

I DIED, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I had the best Manhattan last night! Neat, half dry half sweet vermouth, with lemon twist instead of cherry.

sleeve, Friday, 12 March 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link


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