ATTN: Copyeditors and Grammar Fiends

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I think that's what it is, yes. That's why the mum and dad analogy wasn't right.

'virgin' should be 'wizard' (GamalielRatsey), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Mike, John, and Martin's company

That's rather ambiguous, though, because instead of talking about a company that belongs to Mike, John and Martin, you could be talking about two people (Mike and John) and one company (which belongs to Martin).

Home Taping Is Killing Muzak (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Monday, 1 February 2010 15:39 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Ok, RESUMES: Third person or First person?

I.e. do you write "performs research for litigation" or "perform research for litigation"?

pithfork (Hurting 2), Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:47 (fourteen years ago) link

why would you use third person for yr resume

Mr. Que, Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

kinda yeah what que said

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 February 2010 16:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"Perform research," but I hadn't really thought about it as first-person vs. third-person, it's just the convention.

Lusty Mo Frazier (jaymc), Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Depends--what is it that's being resumed?

clemenza, Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:01 (fourteen years ago) link

For talking about my current job, I tend to make verbs into nouns, so 'performance of' rather than 'perform' or 'performs'. For past jobs, it's past-tense, ie. 'led project x to completion' or whatever. I have no idea what kind of rationale might be behind this - it's just the way I've always done it.

Madchen, Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:09 (fourteen years ago) link

why not just 'research for litigation'

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 February 2010 17:18 (fourteen years ago) link

I use lots of -ings in my CV. I'm so crap at grammar terminology I don't know what they're called. Gerunds? Present participles? Anyway - them.

Alba, Friday, 19 February 2010 00:02 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"Please note that our unit is based in __________Offices (as per above address), and not ______________, to where your correspondence has been addressed. "

fuck's sake someone pls

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 10:59 (fourteen years ago) link

"We have moved. Please use our new address: _____________"

tomofthenest, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:27 (fourteen years ago) link

hmp i'm trying to zing a snotty solicitor who wants a reply yesterday to letters he's sending to the wrong address tomorrow. redrafted it anyway.

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

ha, ok. "Wrong Addresses Never Knowingly Expedite Replies"

tomofthenest, Friday, 5 March 2010 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Further unctious correspondence, knowingly erroneous, receives silence

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, 5 March 2010 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

am i cray-zay to think that when people say "to coin a phrase" right after they've used a HUGE CLICHE that it makes no sense???

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:48 (fourteen years ago) link

are they saying this on Opposite Day?

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:49 (fourteen years ago) link

no unless EVERY DAY is OPPOSITE DAY

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Is supposedly humorous acknowledgement of cliche-usage, no?

ailsa, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link

But does anyone now use it in its proper sense? I imagine it started to get used ironically, people eventually started to take the ironic meaning as its real meaning and bingo. I'm sure there are other examples of this, although I can't think of any right now.

Zelda Zonk, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

When it's used after a massive great cliché I can read that as sarcasm, but it seems to be used at all points along the scale from genuine coinages through "I heard this last week, do you like it?" to all levels of cliché-dom that it doesn't seem to mean anything at all.

(like half of everything ever said, then, but it bothered me when I was younger because I wasn't sure if I might be misunderstanding it completely)

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

xp, Zelda Zonk probably otm

falling while carrying an owl (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

if people are that defensive about their usage of cliches perhaps they shouldn't use them in the first place JUST AN IDEA

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:57 (fourteen years ago) link

this isn't really a grammar thing

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

what cliche are we talking about, for the record.

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

any cliche

but yeah i think people just basically have no idea what it means now, and i am astonished at how irritated this makes me. "to coin" is a wonderfully evocative verb!! keep your hands off if you don't know what you're doing

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

funny, i would almost say to coin a phrase is a cliche

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link

that's true - if one used "to coin a phrase" in its modern, TOTALLY WRONG sense, one might feel obligated to continue stupidly tacking on "to coin a phrase" in some kind of recursive, infinite spaz reflex

Tracer Hand, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:05 (fourteen years ago) link

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/concise.htm

Mr. Que, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:06 (fourteen years ago) link

where should I post something about when people say "I'm such an X geek!!!" or "I'm such a nerd for X!!!!" all the time wherein X is a subject of which they seemingly have only an elementary awareness/a superficial interest? it's here

conrad, Friday, 26 March 2010 16:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Phrases you hate...

village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:50 (fourteen years ago) link

coldnrad

51ocki (k3vin k.), Friday, 26 March 2010 16:54 (fourteen years ago) link

jeez, do you know someone who's mentored is a "mentee"? I would've guessed "mentoree."

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link

those seem like they are both right?

Mr. Que, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

yes, and also their first name is 'hugh'

ain't no thang but a chicken ㅋ (dyao), Friday, 2 April 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Right, cos I'm an employeree of the company I work for...

Madchen, Friday, 2 April 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link

but you're not employered by them

ailsa, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:08 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah, bless our wonderful language. I'm not really sure why this is an argument - there is no such word as mentoree (cf. tutoree).

Madchen, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link

Wiki says Mentee. And Wiki is always right, obviously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentor#.22Mentee.22

ailsa, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

You now have used the word "mentoree", therefore it exists, albeit tenuously. BTW, I have now used it, too. It burgeons apace.

(Hurrah! I legitimately squoze an "albeit" into a sentence. Time for a beer!)

Aimless, Friday, 2 April 2010 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link

I legitimately squoze an "albeit"

how is Thailand, anyway

STAY ALIVE USING EQUIPMENT (HI DERE), Friday, 2 April 2010 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link

I believe the correct word is "Mentos"

Loup-Garou G (The Yellow Kid), Friday, 2 April 2010 21:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha WP: "The student of a mentor is called a protégé. More accurately, for the recondite, the protégé would be called the telemachus (pl. telemachuses or telemachi)."

I think that's weak-ass reconditeness though, should obv be telemakhos (pl. telemakhoi) for maximum pedantry.

anatol_merklich, Saturday, 3 April 2010 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

All typos are not created equal.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2010/apr/19/penguin-cook-book

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link

that is fantastic

don't you steal my Sunstein (HI DERE), Monday, 19 April 2010 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link

and probably not as spicy as it should be.

kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Monday, 19 April 2010 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Can I get some suggestions for writing 'rock n roll' and its derivatives? (Rock and Roll feels pompous and unwieldy).

Rock'n'roll and thus r'n'r, is what I'm going for at the moment (no spaces, no caps). Rock 'n' roll looks stilted to my eye, even worse when it becomes r 'n' r.

Any takers for R'n'R, which presumably entails Rock'n'Roll? Dispense with the apostrophes entirely? That looks odd in abbreviation tho, I think.

God, I know it's a totally trivial thing, but it's really making my fingers itch.

Remember me, but o! forget my feet (GamalielRatsey), Wednesday, 21 April 2010 11:13 (fourteen years ago) link

rock and roll

conrad, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 11:16 (fourteen years ago) link

^ agreed

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link

in lowercase

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 21 April 2010 11:20 (fourteen years ago) link


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