The Conservative Impulse of Punk

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i've used it before, but here's a semi-lame analogy: Punk as Pol Pot. We're going to build a great new society by going back to the traditional ways, but first we have to get rid of all this technology and book-learnin'.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 16:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

"i've used it before, but here's a semi-lame analogy: Punk as Pol Pot."
In that case, what would be the equivalent of "Holiday In Cambodia"? And would the epic post-solo chorus go "Roll...ins... Roll... ins... ROLLINS ROLLINS ROLLINS ROLLINS"

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Vaguely remembered from a Hankypoo interview: "Yeah, you go ahead and sing songs about smacking bitches or whatever. I'll be sitting over here waiting for music to be real again."

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 16:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Jello Biafra also put down techno in (I think) the Onion's AV Club because it made people want to dance mindlessly instead of prepare for cultural revolution and billboard defacement and vandalizing McDonald's and participating in Critical Mass or whatever. OH NO

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 16:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

"i will restore wrongs because these laughs are all terribly ordered"

techno has resulted in more lame "culture-jamming" than any DK albums ever!!

― Tracer hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 17:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tracer your view of punk is a bit too "there's no such word as can't" for me. Or "Feel The Fear And Do It Anyway"!

I'm reminded of the Venn Diagram Mark S reprints in his 'Concrete' essay - here are the punks and here are the non-punks and here are the people who don't fit into either. The reading is that those people are sympathetic but I think they can be sympathetic and also frightened and miserable and disappointed.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

hey i just got in touch with colette (of venn diagram fame)!! she is a grown-up with a propah job!!

i suppose this is hardly earth-shaking news but it just goes to show: when is jello biafra going to get a propah job, eh? (i haf still not forgiven him for "too drunk to fuck", i paid GOOD MONEY FOR THAT you laYMoR)

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 22:01 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well I like the DKs. I just think Jello's views on not-punk music, when not pertaining to the censorship thereof, are kind of weird. Like dig when they came out with "Triumph of the Swill" on Bedtime For Democracy they mocked hair-metal pretty severely, but then Dee Snider gets called into the PMRC trials and all of a sudden Biafra has to side with him as an anti-censorship crusader or something. Weird how that happens.

― Nate Patrin, Wednesday, 28 August 2002 22:33 (twenty-one years ago) link

Well, I think Biafra will happily ally himself with anyone who is anti-censorship...but that doesn't mean he has to like their music.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend" as the Moslems are fond of saying.

― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Wednesday, 28 August 2002 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3237g/images/hanginthere_punks.gif

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:40 (twenty-one years ago) link

that would be a wicked t-shirt!

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 29 August 2002 12:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

anybody else have nekkid siouxsie pix to post?

― Lord Custos Alpha (Lord Custos Alpha), Thursday, 29 August 2002 16:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

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